Stutter Edit and X1???

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2012/08/17 21:42:41 (permalink)

Stutter Edit and X1???

Hey fellers and gals...
 
I just installed Izotope's Stutter Edit.  No probs.  But then I read in the installation manual (imagine that) that you needed to configure SE as a "synth" so you can create a midi track in Sonar to control it.  No probs as I have a couple other VSTs that require same.  So I did.  Only now even though the Plugin manager sees SE and lets me configure it as a synth and then either install it in it's own folder or in my already existing "synth as effects" folder.  They don't show up in X1 at all.  I've rescanned.  I've rebooted.  I've tried most everything.  But no love.  Is anyone else out there using Stutter Edit and, if so, how, exactly did you get it to work????

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    yorolpal
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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/17 21:45:03 (permalink)
    PS:  I notice now that Sonar is no longer showing the folder that I have my other "synth as effects" either.  Yet when I load up a project that has one of them in it.  It loads up and plays back fine.  Weird.

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 13:42:06 (permalink)
    Well...I've got it working although I'm not sure if I've changed anything I shouldn't have.  I went into the registry and saw that it was listing the plugin in its (x86) 32 bit folder...which I changed to the 64bit folder.  It also said it wasn't 64bit...which I changed to yes it is.  It also said it wasn't a synth...which I changed to shore nuf is, hoss.  And guess what...no, go on, guess.  It's showin up and workin now like its supposed to.  I'll let ya know if my computer blows up or somethin. 

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 14:03:59 (permalink)
    please do. im intersted.  thx

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 14:56:14 (permalink)
    Can you post how I can get it working? Step by step maybe. 



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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 16:25:53 (permalink)
    I just put Stutter in Studio One V2 and it works like it should right away!



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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 16:34:38 (permalink)
    After configuring Stutter Edit (SE) as a "synth" I closed Sonar and ran the registry editor by typing regedit into the search programs and files box at the bottom left of the desktop.  Once in the registry navigate to HKey_Current_User.  Expand that then on to Software to Cakewalk Music Software to Sonar Producer to Cakewalk VST64 to Inventory and finally all the way down the (in my case) very lengthy list to c:program files (x86)/cakewalk/vstplugins/Izotope Stutter Edit.dll (or where ever you stored the .dll to) and highlight this.

    To the right of that you'll see all the dll instructions and parameters.  If you don't know how to deal with these...PLEASE BACK UP YOUR REGISTRY FIRST!!!

    While there are many parameters to choose from the three you'll be looking for are:
    Full Path
    IsSynth
    IsX64

    The full path probably says c:\programfiles (x86)\cakewalk\vstplugins\izotope stutter edit.dll (or where ever you stored the .dll file)
    This should be changed to c:\programfiles\cakewalk\vstplugins\izotope stutter edit.dll (or where ever you 64bit vst folder is)

    IsSynth and IsX64 will probably have an ending value of (0) in the Data list
    This should be changed to (1)

    You make changes to these three lines by right clicking the labels (i.e. Full Path, IsSynth, Isx64) and selecting "modify".

    The path can just be edited or retyped and the the other two will just be changed from 0 to 1.

    Again YOU WILL BE MAKING CHANGES TO THE REGISTRY HERE...BE CAREFUL .

    If you've done it right Stutter Edit should now show up in your Soft Synths menu and be able to be selected and inserted in the FX bin of a track.  But remember also you'll need to create a midi track whose output is Stutter Edit to control it.

    HTH.

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 16:44:05 (permalink)
    Funny it doesn't show up there. oh well I will work on it next week or just switch to Studio One from now on to use it.



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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 18:29:18 (permalink)
    Interesting.  For what it's worth, I don't know if all three of those things needed changing or just one or two of them (or any of them for that matter).  I just thought I'd try stuff and see what happened.  But, it worked.  I'm sure that either Cake or Izotope will have a real fix shortly.

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 19:05:18 (permalink)
    Howdy All.... perhaps this brief synopsis will help... the boys at customer service dug into this in depth Ryan also posted a complete set of instructions....

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2618351
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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/18 20:18:00 (permalink)
    On the topic of stutter type plugs, check this boy out:

    http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

    It's great, and offers lots of options, and it's free.

    I couldn't get it to work for ages at first too. I went into the  Plug-In Manager, clicked on the VST and went to Plug-In Properties and then enabled Configure as tempo-based effect.

    I don't think it's as powerful as Izotope's, but great all the same!


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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/19 15:14:38 (permalink)
    Not had any problems myself, stutter edit shows up in both Studio one and Sonar x1d expanded via my vst folder,
    so not sure what the problems are their for you  yorolpal.

    You should  be able to work stutter edit via your keyboard and just to make certain just open up the presets and click on the stutter edit keys to make sure the effects trigger.
    but the best way is to set stutter edit up the same way you would with a vocoder,
    Drop stutter edit on an audio or  vst/midi track, then create a new midi track and send this via the channel outs to stutter edit, You can then just write in midi to trigger the effects i normally do this via the sonar inline piano roll its much more convenient when starting off, you can also then set up drum maps with the fx name for each note/pitch if you wanted.


    How to setup drum maps the easy way
    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bz8iPy9mIkNyX2dTcXRzSEVSUlNscXdETTROZTIyZw
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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/19 15:21:36 (permalink)
    Apparently it's a glitch in Stutter Edits 64bit VST implementation.  If you're running 64bits you either have to exclude (or remove) the SE 32bit .dll OR, like I did, fool Sonar into using the 64bit version.  Are you saying you're running a 64bit system and had no trouble having both the 32bit and 64bit .dll files installed??

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/20 12:32:49 (permalink)
    It would seem not, must of been when i used 32bit sonar with ableton live rewired, when i last had stutter edit working,
    thought it was more recent, i later went all 64bit, so quite dismayed to find this out,I cant trigger effects via midi as i first thought,
    At the moment i only use all 64bit, so no 32bit dll, quite  a new one one on me this now i find out it also apply's to me.
    Just a bit baffled with whole thing, i have deffo had stutter edit working, but just not sure on circumstances with 32bit dll and 64bit dll now.

    I can load up stutter edit, but not trigger effects.

    How to setup drum maps the easy way
    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bz8iPy9mIkNyX2dTcXRzSEVSUlNscXdETTROZTIyZw
    Sonar X3 with Addictive Drums - everything you need (Templates, Maps etc. ) 
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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/20 12:55:18 (permalink)
    If you'll search back through this thread and also the one I posted on the software forum you'll find at least two solutions to get you up and running.  I sent a missive to Izotope but haven't heard back as yet.  I'll keep ya posted.

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/20 15:15:56 (permalink)
    Just heard back from Izotope and their solution was similar to mine only it was just to change the registry entry "resgister as synth" to 1 instead of 0.  They said they didn't see any harm done from the way I did it...as long as it's working fine and it seems to be.  I then asked if they were planning an updated installer to fix this problem and they basically said, no, not at this time.  I find this interesting as this is probably happening to a bunch of users and mucking about the registry is not for the faint of heart.  Perhaps they think it's Cake that should fix it.  In any case there you have it.  From both Cake and Izotope (and me).  Three different ways to fix it.  But none of them the best way, which would be a proper installer or a proper install receptor.  Go figure.

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    Re:Stutter Edit and X1??? 2012/08/20 18:43:25 (permalink)
    Thanks for your time and the info.

    How to setup drum maps the easy way
    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bz8iPy9mIkNyX2dTcXRzSEVSUlNscXdETTROZTIyZw
    Sonar X3 with Addictive Drums - everything you need (Templates, Maps etc. ) 
    http://ge.tt/4mjHdSt/v/0
     
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