Obviously you're not the CEO of Cakewalk or any company. Perhaps too many Kung-Fu kicks to the head. 

Maybe skylightron IS a Cake CEO and he's testing the waters to see how much bunk we'll put up with. ;-p

Seems like any tool dumb enough to admit deliberately trolling in the forum should get BANNED. Piss off.

skylightron


I guess some of you don't pay for your yearly Antivirus or subscribe to any other services. This practice isn't new and has already been implemented like some pointed out. But do you really think Cakewalk would ever switch over to a subscription based service for their DAW?

No, which begs the question - why stir the pot in the first place? What did you accomplish? Furthermore, comparing a model such as Anti-virus to a DAW is not very realistic either. For starters, my DAW is not nor will it ever be connected to the Internet.

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street, If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat. If you get too cold I'll tax the heat, If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

MakeShift

Sounds like living in Quebec.... 

I guess some of you don't pay for your yearly Antivirus or subscribe to any other services.

I don't. I use Microsoft Security Essentials which is free and it works fine for me. My theory is that the companies that sell antivirus programs probably also release the viruses. 

I don't buy software that requires me to pay a yearly license fee. I will gladly purchase a good product and pay for periodic upgrades, but not an annual license. That requires me to make a commitment I don't want to make. 

I would imagine some people such as studio owners would not want to upgrade on a yearly basis. Upgrading means investing time to learn to use a new product which may have some bugs or drawbacks. How would that be handled with your license model? 

The current model is just fine. When Cakewalk announces a new upgrade, you have the choice whether or not to upgrade and when to upgrade. That gives Cakewalk the incentive to release a new upgrade every year or so. With your monthly license model, what is their motivation to release upgrades if the license fee continues to get paid whether or not they make a new release?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 

bobguitkillerleft

chuckebaby


i am concerned about you sir.

Please elaborate,with all concerns,misgivings,dislikings,etc etc.


I'm too old to be upset[some of the road stories I could,but will NEVER reveal]and have been to many places people fear[greatly] so go for it,it could be entertaining for others?


Bob

im now concerned for you as well if you dont understand what i ment about this.
its a joke.

OK, but what if it were a low priced Subscription costing you the same as the regular Upgrade price when calculated in a yearly basis? And if you don't want to use it for the full 12 months... you can Cancel early. So for example, the base fee would be $49.99 and a monthly Producer subscription would be $4.84 Now lets say you only use it for 5 months and decide it's not for you or whatever the reason may be, the cost for your Sonar X2 would only be $74.19 which would save you $24.81. So in a sense, you are paying as you go and paying for what you're using. And as for the Nag Screen... it would only make sense to implement something in that line in order for a user to Subscribe to acquire the full functionality of the program. You pay for it, you get to use it. You don't pay for it, you are limited to its use. This isn't new and is not my own idea but an idea I'm throwing out there to see how you guys feel about a Subscription based Sonar. The Nag Screen doesn't need to be a feature request but an inherent feature of the Subscription version of Sonar. Heck, Cakewalk could sell their regular version with no Subscription limits and one with a Subscription to save money for users who only use Sonar for a certain period of time. They could even start a customer off with the base fee of $49.99 and include 3 months FREE of Sonar usage. I guarantee you... more DAW users would buy in and more users of Sonar only means more growth, sales, revenue, new products and upgrades for Cakewalk products and software.

*sigh*
 
So, when exactly do the kids go back to school?

trimph1

Kev999

skylightron

Start monthly subscription fees on Sonar and lock the program after a certain period of time if the user does not subscribe in order to fully continue to use the software. Start this with X2... a monthly fee of $9.99 for Studio, $14.99 for Producer, $19.99 for Suite. And in order for this to take effect, charge a one time base fee of $49.99 for that corresponding version. If the customer refuses to pay a subscription... Every half hour there would be a Pop-Up screen that pops up and notifies them that they need to Subscribe to fully use all of the features while locking the program for 20 minutes. Another window would appear, advertising Cakewalk store products - somewhat similar to the add during the most recent Webinar.

We'd like a dongle too.

The dongle also needs another dongle....

 
 
Whcih of course each dongle will require a double serial number!
 
In case the first one breaks!  (down)
 
:-)

Harrison started offering something similar recently - you can get MixBus for $49 PLUS a $9 monthly fee (which can be cancelled at anytime after 3 months). If you cancel, you keep the product but no longer have access to support and free updates. 

Not sure I'd be willing to get into such a scheme.

Unofficial Cakewalk Announcment for NEW Subscription Based Sonar Packages:

Sonar X3 is now available through a Subscription, a new and exciting, convenient, innovative service that allows users to Pay As They Go or Buy Off their favorite DAW program. It will be available for Sonar Production Suite, Producer and Studio users only. This new package will be sold at the Cakewalk store and all major musical instrument on-line retail sites and participating retail stores.


Sonar Production Suite - One time start-up fee of $149.99 with 3 Months FREE     $19.99 per month

Sonar Producer -             One time start-up fee of $99.99   with 3 Months FREE     $14.99 per month

Sonar Studio -                 One time start-up fee $49.99       with 3 Months FREE     $9.99 per month     


* These packages include a special version of Sonar with a Check For Updates feature that automatically checks if your Sonar is up to date with the current update and patches and will automatically install them for you. No guesswork involved and no confusion regarding your updates, patches and quickfixes.

If you enjoy using the version of Sonar you subscribed to and want to contiunue to use that version without further Subscription, you may Buy Off that Subscription after 12 months of Subscribing. Buy Off prices are listed below:


Subscription Packages Buy Off Prices:


Sonar Production Suite     $49

Sonar Producer                 $29

Sonar Studio                     $20


The cost of a yearly Subsciption including a Buy Off Price for Sonar Producer customers:

Sonar Producer - One time start-up fee of $99.99 with 3 Months FREE   +    $14.99 per month x  9 months  = $234.90  + $29 Buy Off Price = $263.90 

Subscribers would save close to 35% off of the retail boxed version of Sonar Producer.

And when the next available version is released, you only continue to pay the monthly Subscription, plus 50% off the Subscripton Price and also get 3 Months FREE each time a new version is available. The cost to Upgrade would be less than the retail version.

Sonar Producer Subscription Upgrade cost if Subscribed for 9 months with 3 months FREE $89.95

Availabe now at the Cakewalk store and soon at all major musical instrument on-line retail sites and participating retail stores.

@ProjectM 

The Nag Screen is a feature of the Subscription version of Sonar only and is activated when a user has the software installed but is not subscribed. Once subscribed or bought off, the Nag Screen does not appear.

@Rain 

The customers who can't afford $499 for the Production Suite but can afford $149.99 while receiving 3 Months of  use FREE. Not only are these base start-up prices affordable, it will help Cakewalk bake off the competition.

Imagine walking into your local Guitar Center or Sam Ash's and seeing the Production Suite for $149.99 or the Producer version for $99.

The Subscription version of Sonar also includes a special update feature that will automatically update your existing version of Sonar to whichever update or quick fix is currently available. No more guess work and no more uninstalling and reinstalling.

seriously folks.. stop feeding the troll

How bout a Dongle for the console view,one for the track view,a different one for piano roll view and finally one for your vst's in the FX bin.........heheehehehehahahha,i hope not.