Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6)

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 07:17:37 (permalink)
i still think that we need the code,and some people that care enough to take care of it, even if we have to pay up. i mean come on we been waiting for a REAL release of 1.22, so far its just a beta,and i dont know about yall but my jog wheel is sluggish when i rewire(all 32 bit). Control surface part doesnt really work in 64bit. it sucks, because this has to be one of the best home recording option out,and they just tossed it to the side...but hey im getting work done in 32 bit so cant really complain further.

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 10:16:57 (permalink)
Herbster, thanks for this detail.

In another post somewhere, I went over the history, and yes, it was SONAR 6 that broke the 1.21 driver and required the making of the 1.22 driver.  Frontier Design wrote that driver, still in beta, but Tascam never released it on their websites.  The 1.21 driver was introduced with SONAR 4 and works with SONAR 4 and 5.

I have written to Frontier Design about a 64-bit version of 1.22.


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 11:31:44 (permalink)
Hi Riojazz,

I am glad to hear that you have written to Frontier Design about a 64-bit version of 1.22 beta driver.

I hope that I am wrong, but I think Frontier Design may need to get permission from Tascam to code a 64-bit version of the 1.22 32-bit driver for Sonar 6.0 64-bit and later versions of Sonar.

As you may know, the Tascam FW-1884 is a joint project between Tascam and Frontier Design.... Tascam drop the ball on Sonar 6.0 and later versions of Sonar due to Cakewalk changing Sonar's software coding. I don't think Tascam was happy with Cakewalk about the changes made to Sonar 6.0 which means Tascam would have to change their driver coding to be compatible to Sonar 6.0. This may be the reason why Tascam decided to stop supporting Sonar 6.0 and above.

I think someone at Frontier Design had a good heart to create and let the Sonar 1.22 32-bit beta driver slip out... I think someone did this without Tascam's permission.

Let's keep our fingers cross for a 64-bit version update of the 1.22 beta driver... Maybe Frontier Design will have a big heart!

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post edited by herbster - 2010/04/05 11:35:39

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 12:07:50 (permalink)
FYI Tascam includes Cubase LE with their interfaces now. Maybe they have switched product loyalty away from Sonar so therefore have abandoning any development that supports Sonar leaving you guys in a lurch. Just a thought.

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 16:59:44 (permalink)
Riojazz, thanks for keeping us updated on this.  I'm now running the 1.80 driver in Win 7 64 bit in Sonar 8.5.3 64 bit.  I'm also running the Sonar 1.21 plug-in (64 bit version - dated 9/12/06).   I've only had it installed for a short time, but things seem to be working okay, although I am using the FW1884 in a slightly unconventional way.  I'm using it mostly as a control surface and midi cotroller.  Analog inputs into the FW1884 are pushed through an ADAT pipe into an RME 9652.  

I love the FW1884, but after all the driver headaches, I'll never buy Tascam again.
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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 17:21:31 (permalink)
Thanks, Still Kicking.  I can't count how many expressions of frustration I have read about not buying Tascam equipment ever again.  Even if they have fixed this problem, a lot of damage has been done.

Forgive me for asking you to clarify your post.  I want to be very clear on this point.  You say you are successfully running the 1.21 SONAR Control Surface driver with Windows 7 64-bit and SONAR 8.5 64-bit, but that 1.21 driver is only 32-bit.  This is what it says on the Tascam USA website for the FW-1884:

FW-1884 Sonar Control Surface Drivers:
Sonar V 1.21 Control Surface driver 32-Bit (download)
 Sonar 64 Bit Installer (download)

And those of us who use 32-bit Windows never knew eactly what that meant, since the names are different.  Does it mean there is one driver, version 1.21, and a separate install for 32-bit and 64-bit?

If so, it would seem that the 64-bit version could not work fully, since we know that the 1.22beta driver is required for SONAR 6 or newer when using 32-bit SONAR installations.


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/05 18:31:42 (permalink)
Still Kicking,
Please detail exactly what is and is not working on the control surface.
Unless I did something wrong, the Sonar 64 installer loaded as FW1082 (see screen shots above) and other than transport, pan & level control, DID NOT work the same as the v1.22 plug. Sonarx64 would NOT recognize the 32bit plug.
Tom

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/06 12:28:43 (permalink)
I'm traveling until the weekend so will need to get back to you later on the details.

I had all of this running reasonably well in 64bit under the 1.70 driver, which I installed a month or two ago.  At that time, I ran the Sonar x64 installer.  I'm not sure what else I installed at that time.  The FW1082 plug-in does show up as installed on my system, but when I open the PlugIn configuration tool and select Controller plug-ins, it points to the FW1884.dll that is identified in my e-mail. 

I didn't have time to do much with it, but the transport controls, the select in/out buttons and the track controls for mute, solo, and select seemed to work fine.  Are there specific functions you'd like me to test when I'm back in town?
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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/06 12:55:32 (permalink)
SK,
That's good news.
Can you "arm" to record?
When you select an "Aux" send, does the encoder control send level or send pan?
What about the EQ controls?
Did you install Dim Pro, and if so x32 & x64, and DXi and/or VST?
Also, it sounds like you installed Sonar running the FW on driver v1.7?
Maybe you could recap your complete chain of installation, that seems to be where I've been getting myself into trouble.
One last thing, since you're using the ADAT lightpipe, I assume your running at 48k 24bit?
Somewhere along the line Sonar defaulted to 44.1k 16 bit on me and I can't seem to fix it.
Chime in here guys, I can't get Win7x64 and Sonar 8.5 to play nice, so here we have 1 system that is up and running!
Could you list your complete system specs?

Thanks,
Tom

BTW, I've spent a little more time with the x64 install and detailed things a bit here, post #23


post edited by DeeringAmps - 2010/04/06 13:06:33

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/08 10:55:11 (permalink)
Act can allso be used to get the remote controller working..... hopefully.

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/10 12:02:13 (permalink)
A little more experimentation revealed the following:

1.  I cannot Arm to record a track from the FW1884
2.  Track EQ controls seem to work fine
3.  Aux Sends are a bit wonky.  When I initially select an Aux Send, the encoder modifies the send pan setting rather than the level.  However, if I Flip encoders/faders, the fader properly adjusts the send level, and when I unFlip, the encoder now properly modifies the send level.
4. Dim Pro is installed as a VSTi only
5. I'm recording through the lightpipe into the RME 9652 at 44.1/24bit

This is a new computer, only a couple months old.  After installing Sonar 8 PE and updating to 8.5.3, I installed Sonar 1.70 and the Sonar 64bit plugin installer.  I'm not sure if I tried installing the 32 bit version.  I was having firewire interface problems with the new computer, so was trying a number of unnatural things until I resolved the issue with a new firewire card.

I uninstalled 1.70 before installing 1.80.  I also rebooted my computer between the 1.70 uninstall and the 1.80 install.

I have to admit that I regularly use only the most basic functions of the FW1884 - transport, track levels, panning, jumping between markers and setting from/thru points.   For this stuff, all is good.  


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/04/10 13:16:40 (permalink)
SK,
Thanks for the update!

My issues with record bit depth solved, for what ever reason
my Win7x32 install defaulted to 24bit, but my Win7x64 did not!
It probably goes back to the original chipset install, I might not
have installed the audio drivers for the on-board audio.
I had completely forgotten about  OPTIONS>GLOBAL>AUDIO DATA
having a drop down for record, render, import, etc.

Tom

post edited by DeeringAmps - 2010/04/10 19:47:08

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/03 12:11:18 (permalink)

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/05 09:23:31 (permalink)
It's official! We DO have a friend at Tascam.

The v1.22x32 and v1.22x64 Sonar plug-ins are up on the Tascam European site.

Click on FW-1884 under "Updated Windows Drivers for FireWire Interfaces".



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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/05 10:14:17 (permalink)
Tom, thank you for this news, and thank you for your efforts in this saga.


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/11 22:52:53 (permalink)
I have S8.5.3 PE on an XP System, but formatted and installed all the new drivers and all is working well.

I know a guy with with a 1082 on Win7 that I helped out with the new drivers and his seems in good order as well.

Was happily surprised that we got new versions, now I may get a new Win7 machine.
post edited by hockeyjx - 2010/07/11 22:54:47
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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/12 06:13:58 (permalink)
Howdy all

so where do we stand with the FW 1082 ?

Obvioulsy the 1.80 is fine for th FW 1082 and Windows 7.

What about the Control Surface plugin ?

Can the FW 1884  1.22 Control Surface plugin be used for a FW 1082 in Windows 7 ?

Tim
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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/18 22:27:28 (permalink)
Just had a chance try out my old fw1884 on a Win7x64 audio recording session with Sonar 8.53.  All I've run is the v1.80 exe driver install. 

The mobo is an Intel 975bx2. Had a bit of trouble getting the 1884 fw port to initialize if I turned it on after Win7 was already booted. Sometimes the fw led would just blink. But if I powered up the unit ahead of time, it would init every time once Win7 came up.

I did all the audio recording through the spidif port using a 128-bit buffer. Rock solid, no dropouts at 44.1 or 88.2. Also did a solid nonstop hour of 44.1 k spidif-send/return recording to a parallel track with a hardware reverb unit.  I routinely test with a 1-sample spike to make sure the parallel track synchs exactly. Entering the offset into Sonar's audio page. I noticed using Asio that the reported automatic checkbox offset wasn't exactly right... the driver reported a latency adjustment of 158 samples but testing indicated a true spidif latency of 154 samples... maybe the difference is the converter latency spidif bypasses.  The fw1884's spidif latency was spectacular, btw, using wdm/ks... measured 26 samples with 2 buffers (128-bit again) and 28-samples with 3 buffers.  I decided to go with wdm/ks using 2-buffers and unchecked the "compensate for converter delays" checkbox in the driver screen since I only use spidif anyway.

Unfortunately, the big fly in the ointment for me was that my Win7 machine would reboot if I turned the fw1884 off after a recording session with Sonar.  Seems to turn on and off fine if I didn't use it with Sonar.  Hope they resolve this because it's a really great performer otherwise.  I did the same latency tests with an RME FF400 which measured a 197 sample latency (asio reported 173 samples). The ff400 (v3.016 drivers) didn't work at all with wdm but 32-bit mme drivers did work with Sonar 8.53 x64 (???) but measured a 2,274 sample latency... not sure why they bothered.

Have not installed the 32-bit Sonar or the fw1884 control surface drivers on this system yet. Will report back when I do.

Howard


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/28 15:07:01 (permalink)
Howard,
Do you have the 1394 port set to "Legacy" in Device Manager? I always boot Win 7, then start the FW; no issues what so ever. This is running Win 7 x32 or x64.
Check the "user" page in my signature, I go through the setup process there.
If you are running Sonar x32 & x64, install both the Sonar Control Plugs v1.22x32 and v1.22x64.

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/29 09:08:15 (permalink)
Thanks, Tom.  I think it might be the fact that my win7x64 system uses an ssd with trim enabled. Not having any problem with the rme ff400 so I've been using that lately.  I have a new fw interface coming in next week which I'm hoping doesn't have the same issue... I'll report back when I do some more testing.  

Howard

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/29 21:52:39 (permalink)
hv


Thanks, Tom.  I think it might be the fact that my win7x64 system uses an ssd with trim enabled.
Howard

I use an Intel SSD with trim support as my boot disk for Windows 7 Pro 64-bit,  and have no problems with my FW-1884 using the 1.80 driver and the SONAR Control Surface 1.22 driver for 64-bit.


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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/07/31 16:44:10 (permalink)
Just took the time to try a few things and they both seem to work. Shutting off trim on the ocz vertex boot ssd worked, as suggested on their site. But so did changing to the legacy version of the TI firewire driver, as suggested by Tom above.  I'd rather not be mucking with trim so I'm sticking with that approach.  The ff400, my Canon HD video camera, and various fw hard drives I use on occasion don't seem to care. Got a new converter coming in next week that I understand also uses a TI fw chipset with Win7 64-bit drivers provided by TC.  I'm optimistic it'll be good too.

Howard

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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2010/08/02 18:41:36 (permalink)
WHAT!!!! I got rid mine!!!! dang!!!! i had fw 1082
kept crashing my computer now they made driver for 7.
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Re:Tascam releases new drivers for FW-series for Windows 7 (and OS 10.6) 2011/08/11 04:36:39 (permalink)
Know this is an old thread, but I'll have a go anyway:

Have some of you replaced the FW ports on the FW-1884?
Seems that this is happening to a lot of the Tascams (mostly due to the possibility to force a FW cable the wrong way into it? ) and therefore it has to be changed.

I have an offer for an FW-1884 with a broken FW port for 100$.
If its possible to change the FW ports for not much money, this must be a bargain?

If not - is it possible to only use it as a DAW controller via MIDI?

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