I'm kind of wishing my brass was a little louder in my mix....if I'd known there were prizes I'd have spent a bit more time mixing it....but you say I can't swap out my mp3?

What if I were to say please very nicely?

There are now 36 entries to be heard at the MP3 site.

I get auto-email from my Box account when people download materials, so I see that quite a few more people have gotten the Trek files.  Hopefully that means even more tracks will be coming in.

Most often the MIDI file is being downloaded, which is handy for people not using Sonar, but the .cwp file is easier to work with if you're here at the Forum and using Sonar.  It's all set up for you.  You just need to swap the instruments out for the sound library of your choice.  Considering that the .cwp hasn't been downloaded very often, I'm wondering if people aren't realizing that they should be using the .cwp file if they use Sonar.

PLEASE NOTE THE RULES - The main idea of this event is to give us all the chance to hear what various instrument libraries sound like.  If you're using a library which only has strings, then obviously you'll need another library to fill out the instrumentation.  But the ideal is one library, and hopefully not more than two.

We're still getting some entries which have a lot of different sound sources in them.  We understand that usually we pick and choose instruments from various sources to build a project, but this contest isn't about that - it's about you doing the best demo you can of ONE or TWO (if necessary) libraries.  Just be sure to thoroughly explain what you've used in the text file you include with your MP3 when you send it in.

When the voting gets underway after the 15th, some entries may need to be disqualified if we decide too many liberties were taken with the guidelines.

Randy B.

I'm gonna try a reFX Nexus version although I can't find any brass in any of the soundbanks I have......it's designed for EDM all trance atmospheres and arps and 303 basses and stuff.........could be interesting

LOL


Edit: I found some brass-esque patches and whacked together a very quick remarkably orchestral sounding Nexus version - you've got it Randy (I hope)....now re-arranging for some more Nexusish sounds....I am shocked at how orchestral it sounded!!

hi Randy B. how can i upload my entry via yahoo e-mail?

hi Randy B. my problem now is i can't open the submission page, i don't know where to send my entry.

help please!

A SIMPLE RE-STATEMENT OF THE GUIDELINES:

We continue to receive entries which aren't following the guidelines.  Before the voting begins on August 16th, Bitflipper and I will go over the entries and decide if any need to be excluded from the voting.  Naturally we don't like the possibility of excluding any entries, since they all represent an investment of time and energy.

TO REITERATE THE MAIN CONCEPT OF THE CONCEPT:

--To demonstrate the way a specific soft synth sounds when playing the MIDI file being used for this contest.

--The page where all the submissions are posted is intended as a helpful, educational tool for people to make their own decisions about what sound libraries they may be interested in purchasing.

--Ideally the entries would be made with one orchestral library which contains all the instruments of the orchestra.

--Since some libraries focus only on segments of the orchestra, then naturally more than one soft synth would be needed to complete the project if someone has chosen such a library.  For instance if someone wants to use a library which is exclusively comprised of the string section, then he would need at least one more library to fill out the rest of the instrumentation.

--Four libraries is the maximum number of libraries one can use in this contest and still stay within the guidelines.  Four would be needed if someone had libraries dedicated to each of the orchestra's four sections.  One library each for strings, woodwinds, brass, and percussion.

--BUT this means that what is Not a legitimate method of putting an entry together is to pick and choose instruments from various libraries.  If you're using a program which has the string section, it's beyond these guidelines to include a string instrument from another library.  The strings are already covered by the first library.  Same with any of the other sections.  If you're not happy with the trumpet included in the brass library you're using, it goes beyond the scope of this contest to add a trumpet from another library.

--As Bitflipper said from the very start of this contest-- it's acknowledged that people do pick and choose instruments from various sources when putting together a recording project.  But this Shootout is not about the Ultimate combination you're able to come up with - it's about producing to the best of your ability, a recording using one library, or more if needed, as described above.

--Recordings which are a unique combination of instruments from many sources won't help listeners determine what the sound of a particular library is - and that was and remains the primary purpose of this event.

I hope this post is helpful for people still working on submissions.  Please follow the guidelines so we don't have to possibly exclude your work from the voting.

Demonstrate a library or small combination of libraries.  Do not assemble instruments from a variety of sources. 

Randy B.

Bristol_Jonesey


I finally got round to playing with this last night.

Some progress, but my God, that percussion track is a pig to manipulate!!!!

Glad to hear you're joining in, Jonesey. 

You may have noticed on this thread and the first thread on this Shootout topic, the percussion track has been discussed more than the other tracks, because it presents the biggest challenge.

The original MIDI file is by GM standards.  The instruments used in the percussion track match up with those in a GM instrument.  But to have that track work properly in our soft synths, some version of the below is necessary:

--Clone or copy the track so you have a total of four copies.
--The top line is a cymbal.  Select those all at once by clicking the note in the keyboard in the PRV.
--Transpose that note to the one which triggers the cymbal(s) in your chosen soft synth.
--Delete the rest of the notes in that track--You've now separated the cymbal.
--Do the same with the rest of the instruments:

-----------Bottom note is meant to be an orchestral bass drum.
-----------Next note up from the bottom is the snare.
-----------The group of notes between the snare and the cymbal are tympani.

Randy B.

Randy, how about scanning your notes and telling us which libraries have been represented so far? Maybe somebody's been hesitant to join in who might be prompted to do so because their favorite sample library hasn't been represented yet.

We haven't had an Omnisphere entry yet, have we? I'd like to know if it's capable of this type of application. It seems to do just about everything.

As I feared, no Omnisphere! Come on, I know there are a bunch of Omnisphere fans here. Or are you all doing strictly industrial electro hip hop trance lofi techno and want no part in classic orchestral stuff?

Just sent mine in. Now to go listen to some. I did not listen to any yet.    

OMG! Entry #34 sounds very good!      Whoa!

Lotso' good stuff there fer sure.  I'm so glad we did this. 

Randy B.

Randy, you can add EWQL SILVER to your list, as i'll be posting between now & Saturday.

cae48790


hi Randy B. my problem now is i can't open the submission page, i don't know where to send my entry.

help please!

You must still be having trouble--?  Because I don't have an entry from you.

Randy B.

Randy and Bit,

Wanted to chime in here although very belatedly.  Your idea and work has been fantastic (my computer is in the shop for an extended period being upgraded and reworked).