FastBikerBoy
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 02:41:20
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Guitarpima
Fastbikerboy - If I'm reading your request right, you want to change outputs halfway through a project?
Leave on track open in the clip pane so you can edit the output. Select the tracks you want to change the outputs on. On the output select of the track you left open, click on the far right of the output selection box and select "selected track outputs". You then get a dialog box that you can select the output for the tracks you've selected.
Thanks for the reply Guitarpima. I'm aware of the method you've suggested but I don't want to set them all to the same output which I believe that method does. I want to change each track to a different output although in most projects I tend to change the same tracks to the same outputs each time i.e Kick to my 1st out, Snare to 2nd, etc etc hence my thinking applying a template to an open project might be handy, certainly for me. A bit like 'styles' in MS Word. It's hardly a show stopper but would be a nice feature and if implemented properly would be useful for many things other than just output changes.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 04:41:47
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I'd also like a full screen mode like Ardour.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 05:55:59
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I was like duh. And then she goes uh. And then we were both like OMG. And then all of us were like LOL....
LOL! That 'Valley Girl' guff drives me mad and it's infected the youngsters here in the UK, along with that INFURIATING upwards enquiring inflection that is now commonplace, i.e where every statement is a question? Even if I'm not asking one? It's just so maddening? I've heard two theories for its origin? (1) Australian kiddie soap operas like 'Neighbours' where the entire cast talk all the time like it? and/or (2) the lack of confidence in youngsters among their peers where nowadays a statement can be seen as aggressive? So it's couched in the form of a question instead? John? 
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 06:57:02
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 08:49:35
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FastBikerBoy
I guess I could do that, but then I'd be dragging lots of audio about into the template mixing tracks which would be more fraught and probably time consuming then changing outputs. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.......
To do what you describe: I would create a number of track templates that will create the buses you desire, with effects and outputs: drums, guitars,... Then you do not have to mass change outputs of buses (which I also have requested), you just have to change the track outputs. During this past year I modified the JS template to include track folder/tracks/buses that I use, while maintaining the originals. I added some tracks for guitars with processors, and corrosponding buses: guitars electric, acoustic, main vocal, backing vocal, instruments all, vocals all,... And I created a MASTER MIX bus that ouputs to the MAIN OUT bus. This lets me bounce to tracks and send the mix to the main out bus which does not have any processing, just voxengo span and panipulator. I have saved a number of the tracks from this template as track templates that create the bus structure for older projects. J Nuculer instead of nuclear. (Bush helped with this one) Megs and Gigs. Cringing just to type such. 'Tis mega-bytes, and giga-bytes. The plural is for the bytes not the modifier. I do not remember ever hearing/reading "Ks" for kilobytes. Why not RAMs? So to use an abbreviation: Meg and Gig, as in 2 gig ram,...
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 08:55:52
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 10:34:24
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Here are my two EUR cents... :)
- Fix bugs (AS, VV, layers, envelopes, track cloning and deleting...)
- Customizable Key-bindings for EVERY command that can be triggered from menus.
- Two-click colo(u)r picking for Tracks/Buses/Clips, synchronized between Track and Console views
- Multi-select and change any common parameter of selected tracks/buses in Console view (not only in Track view)
- Multi-select and move tracks/buses in Console view
- "Trim" gain range from -INF dB.
- Direct value entry for EVERY parameter in tracks/buses (e.g. pan control)
- Multi-select and resize track/bus height in Track view
- Bigger or adjustable FX bin in Console/Track view - no need to scroll
- Improved Track manager - similar to PT (hide, show, lock, select one or multiple tracks)
- Enable tabbed console view
- Create a new stereo clip from two mono clips by just dragging them to a stereo track (PT like)
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 10:45:37
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jm24
I was like duh. And then she goes uh. And then we were both like OMG. And then all of us were like LOL....
LOL! That 'Valley Girl' guff drives me mad and it's infected the youngsters here in the UK, along with that INFURIATING upwards enquiring inflection that is now commonplace, i.e where every statement is a question? Even if I'm not asking one? It's just so maddening?
I've heard two theories for its origin? (1) Australian kiddie soap operas like 'Neighbours' where the entire cast talk all the time like it? and/or (2) the lack of confidence in youngsters among their peers where nowadays a statement can be seen as aggressive? So it's couched in the form of a question instead?
John?
Gleefully joining in again on the OT portion of this thread - These posts have given me good laughs. My wife and I having an on-going joke when we'll unexpectedly talk to each other in the "I was like...Then she goes...And we were all like..." non-communicative style of "communicating." We have to laugh because otherwise, it's too frightening to picture a future where everyone is all "like...and they go..." It's been going on for SO long now. It sounds like a silly fad that would've faded by now, but it just doesn't go away. And the up inflection plague! - unbelievable how long kids here have done that. Over 10 years ago I was directing a young man in a play. He was prone to use this inappropriate interrogatory inflection constantly, even on stage. He had one line in particular which was very funny, a sure-fire laugh line - IF the audience understood the line to be a statement. I kept giving him the note in rehearsal that he was ruining the joke because it was coming out like a question. He really didn't seem to know what I meant - he didn't think his inflection was making it a question. To him, it's just the way he and his friends talked. So there we were on opening night, his big laugh-line comes - he makes it a question - and of course there wasn't a peep out of the audience. They were waiting quietly for another character to answer him.---- The young actor finally Got it. From then on, he delivered the line like a proper statement and got his laugh. Randy B.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 10:48:50
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- Two-click colo(u)r picking for Tracks/Buses/Clips, synchronized between Track and Console views
bus color determines track color for tracks that output to bus
sends (in inspector) also take bus color
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My simple list of Sonar wants:
- Ability to change position of effects dialogs: not to span monitors: In the center of a particular monitor
- Ability to connect every function to a button and to a key command
- Bigger node spots and lines for envelopes, with transparency setting. Way too many false grabs.
- Clone Busses
- Clone Track Folders
- Current bus should change color to be quickly identified. A little hilited box is inadaquate.
- Effects: reset to defaults button
- EVERY dialog should have 3 buttons: OK CANCEL HELP
- FrontPage like graphical view of routings: what is connected to what
- Import/Export Projects: track templates WITH data: audio and midi
- Macro language that provides maniptulation of all aspects of the program. If CW does not want to do this then publish a SDK so third parties can create such.
- Marker color the same as the track selected when created
- Markers right click a marker and delete
- Markers on clips that move with the clip
- Microscope tool for audio: sorta like a slide rule, about 2 inches wide, full vertical, works only when stopped, magnification adjustable, movable horizontally,... Zooming the full screen is annoying, and disorienting
- Move now time without deselecting clips using a command key and mouse
- New, open, and save-as dialog that remember settings for displaying details and size. The default windows dialogs are a waste of time.
- Outputs checkmarked, as are the inputs, program continuity
- SAVE AS toolbar button, I NEVER use SAVE, only save-as to a new name
- Save project on exit: like auto version save
- Scroll bar and zoom gadgets on left of window: optional, 2+ monitors makes these guys way over thar
- Show Desktop button to minimize ALL windows except the Trackview
- Sony type zoom scroll bar gadget function: pull on edges of slider to zoom, very useful
- Timer: record/play for X minutes and stop. Is that so wrong? (I do a lot of cassette, reel dubbing, for self and clients.)
- Track Spacers that show in any view. A track spacer with a title and a notepad, and unique color. (Track folders can not provide this function)
- Tracks: Function: Split layers to tracks create a track for each layer, with routings and effects,…
- Tracks: Sort tracks by: order of creation, name, effect, output, send, dafault order...
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 11:22:00
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Thank you Randy for providing an example of how our OT bits affect quality of actual life.
Review just this thread and find examples of wrong word use, bad grammar, spelling mistakes, lousy punctuation,...
And when people are asked to correct their language/writing the response is usually indignance (I don't care. Get used to it,...). Yet these same people want others to know immediately what they mean when attempting to ask for help.
The classic (apocryphal?) example is from about post-WW2. Representatives from the US and the UK were meeting to decide postwar approaches to problems. At one point during talk about a contentious issue the US dudes suggested the matter be "tabled." The UK reps agreed and continued to speak to the issue. The US guys protested, and so on.
In the US to "table" an issue in a meeting means to defer conversation about the topic. In the UK to "table" means it is on the table for conversation.
(Corrections welcome.)
Divided by a common language. Don't ya know.
Many of us do not type well. And way too many people do not spell. (We have the technology!) So, it is difficult to know if someone meant to type "than" instead of "then," "affect" instead of "effect."
(Another bit of difference between US and them is where the punctuation is placed, in the quotes "then," or outside the quotes, "effect".)
These little bits of language determine who will help, and to what extent. I have witnessed threads that start with bad grammar and spelling which are then answered by others with such talents, and within the first 4 replies the OP is being advised to format the OS disk, buy a new computer, audio interface, television, and phone service.
Often OT bits provide important lessons.
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Oh, yea, the topic:
One of the most annoying:
Be able to move now time without deselecting clips using a command key and mouse: Important for me when high zooming and attempting to align multiple clips.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/30 23:58:11
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bus color determines track color for tracks that output to bus Great idea!
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/31 09:31:26
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I use the Sequencer a lot with my soft synths and I save sequences a lot accordingly.
It would be nice if the Sequencer window showed the name of the sequence that I currently have open.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/31 21:46:09
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There are so many things I want.
How about we start with: no more threads about what we want on the 'virtual' eve of a release.
Oh yeah, and no more threads just after the release too. That's probably not going to happen.
Mid-release might be a good place for them but development would probably already be started and there's no room for our fantasies. So none there either.
Other than that, have at it guys and gals.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/31 22:00:49
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Things we are suggesting now will prolly be in S 9.5, 10,... Coding for the next versions has, no doubt, been happening for years already.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/31 22:28:00
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I would love for just an improvement on the stability of the program. with Sonar 8.5 pretty much everything under the sun is covered besides that
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/08/31 22:58:35
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One of the most annoying: Be able to move now time without deselecting clips using a command key and mouse: Important for me when high zooming and attempting to align multiple clips. I think you can with fast forward and rewind buttons on the large transport. If you have a CS like a Mackie Control it is a jog wheel to do it a little smoother. BTW Your post was excellent as was Randy's. If you are quoting someone then your punctuation goes on the outside of the quotes. Their punctuation stays inside.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 00:43:01
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Okay, this has probably been mentioned before:
Native 64bit support for everything that comes Sonar, including the 'old' Sonar plugins.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 00:59:10
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It would be nice if you could rename audio files on the hard drive from within Sonar. On a project with many audio files it can be confusing. Also, it would be nice to have a notes section in clip properties, similar to track properties Description text box, for things such as "Good take but mistake at 3:25!" etc.
post edited by WDI - 2010/09/01 01:08:29
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 10:29:52
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I want a button so that the universe will implode. Then, Maybe?, the next version of Sonar won't matter too much. lol!
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 10:52:03
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A utility that allows multiple projects to be exported in batch without the need to load each in turn and hang around picking one's backside while each one is done.
Like the one in SoundForge really, a real time saver when working on a whole album.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 17:18:17
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The biggest thing Sonar is lacking for me is proper editing tools. They should take a few pointers from Sequoia, Pyramix and Sadie (Nuendo even). There is no reason that needing a 4 point editing tool should require $3000 to purchase one of these botique DAW's.
Real CD burning support and PQ editing would be useful too now that the format is pretty much obsolete. Especially now that there is more competition from Presonus.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 18:32:01
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Especially now that there is more competition from Presonus.
There are definitely some pretty suave features in Studio One. I can't help but think there's a great opportunity for one of the middle-market DAW makers to yank the killer features from each of their competitors. Most people who are, say, Reaper fanatics tout the varispeed, routing, and extendability. Studio One has killer controller interfacing and a very elegant UI. SONAR, to me, has great integrated looping tools, awesome included plugs, and some killer sequencing tools. Reason's new Blocks feature is something I've been crying about for several versions now. That's kind of where I think Studio One missed their opportunity. Now they have to play catch up with some features that are standard in all DAWs. But hey, they got some things right. Now I want them in my own DAW.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 21:51:24
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I know it's a Roland plug,..but I'd like to see them change the v vocal editor to be able to include an additional clip length (above the work area),..like a metronome/ drum track) so it would be a little easier to stretch or schrink transients while working with the timing. Something to match it too. It would be nice to be able to have a visual reference to stretch the trasient. I'd also like to see cakewalk enable all their other plugs for 64 bit. FX chorus, FX reverb,..ect. They should have everything 64 bit ready.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/01 22:08:16
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bapu
There are so many things I want.
How about we start with: no more threads about what we want on the 'virtual' eve of a release.
Oh yeah, and no more threads just after the release too. That's probably not going to happen.
Mid-release might be a good place for them but development would probably already be started and there's no room for our fantasies. So none there either.
Other than that, have at it guys and gals.
Ah, so this is not about Sonar 10 then. In that case I have to agree with you, Bapu.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/02 09:46:42
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Things we are suggesting now will prolly be in S 9.5, 10,... Coding for the next versions has, no doubt, been happening for years already.
I think in fairness alot of the requests on this thread have all been submitted alot earlier than now, obviously there is a feature request form to submit ideas to Cakewalk which a lot of us put our names down to and submitted individually, I've been submitting some of the requests since v7
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/02 11:00:40
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It took 5 versions to get a track view button. Still would like a way to minimize all but the trackview.
I figger CW persons read lots of the threads. And sometimes a better description, and significant concurrence, will result in a reassessment of a a feature/fix request submitted many years ago.
And I expect similar loonacy to last year with a series of updates before the usual 9 month derth.
So, we may still be able to influence the fate of the final version of the forthcoming release.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/05 09:24:12
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Drag and drop track icons, using a windows explorer, so I can quickly do a bunch of tracks/buses.
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/05 10:32:07
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Drag and drop track icons, using a windows explorer, so I can quickly do a bunch of tracks/buses.
I don't know how many times I wished that was the case. Good one!
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/06 19:41:42
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Drag and drop track icons, using a windows explorer, so I can quickly do a bunch of tracks/buses.
That would be a monumental timesaver for me!
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Re:The annual what do you want from the next version of Sonar
2010/09/07 10:25:41
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A sample converter: all formats to SFZ.
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