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The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it

I have created tunes and themes in my mind through pure emotion (inspiration) alone and nothing else. Music is something very emotional and all that is needed to create great and catchy tunes in your mind is just pure inspiration/emotion alone. The more emotion you channel in your mind, the better the tune you are very likely to create since it is that much more likely to be a more emotionally profound, powerful, and compelling tune. These tunes are, to me, catchy, compelling, and convey powerful and profound emotion whether that emotion be something that makes people want to get up and dance or something else. It's the melodies themselves that convey this to me and not just the instruments I've chosen. Even though I perceive these tunes as great and catchy, I do not know how others would perceive them. Just because I perceive them as great and catchy does not make it so which is why the feedback of others is so important. I have made some improvisations over the last tunes I have created and, hopefully, these new tunes will convey what I describe them to be.

My melodies might also be very basic, but it is well known that even basic melodies convey powerful and profound emotion. Haven't you ever listened to a simple theme or tune that was catchy, famous, and conveyed something powerful and great? So, here are my new tunes. I am only sharing to you the tunes I am making for now and not fully perfected songs. I think I have some great, catchy tunes and that was what I was wanting to share for now until I become a professional composer later on who is able to create fully perfected songs. I am currently a complete beginner at composing and have yet to learn. Nonetheless, our brains are still more than capable of creating any great work of art in our minds whether it be tunes or landscapes. Even people who are not artists or educated are able to have dreams, psychedelic trips, and near death experiences where they witness whole new artistic landscapes whether it be heavenly and hellish landscapes or music.  These are crafts that skilled artists themselves would create. Therefore, our brains are already natural artists and they can already create amazing masterpieces on their own.

That is how I was able to create these amazing tunes in my mind. I did not require any education, training, dreams, psychedelic trips, or near death experiences to pull it off. All that was needed to bring out the brain's amazing, natural, artistic capabilities was pure inspiration alone.  Using the brain's amazing natural capability, I can create any next best amazing theme whether it be the next best Zelda theme, Super Mario theme, or any theme in general.  Even though I am perhaps a savant mentally since I create these amazing tunes in my mind, the problem arises when artists such as myself attempt to convey their envisioned masterpieces in the real, physical world. In order to successfully convey your vision, then that might require much knowledge and training on how to do it. Or maybe not. I really don't know. Maybe there is a shortcut (a way for me to successfully convey my themes now). That is why I am sharing to you these amazing themes I hear right now despite not being educated and trained. Hopefully, these amazing themes will become coherent for the listener and their great and catchy power conveyed.

https://soundcloud.com/user-432115982/sets/my-best-themes
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/14 05:21:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Just Another Bloke 2018/02/14 23:30:10
It needs more cowbell IMHO.

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/14 07:16:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Just Another Bloke 2018/02/14 23:30:07
You're getting better, keep at it.

 
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/15 03:33:11 (permalink)
mind, body, spirit.  They have to be in balance.

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/15 05:03:52 (permalink)
 
 
SuperMarioGamerThat is why I am sharing to you these amazing themes I hear right now despite not being educated and trained. Hopefully, these amazing themes will become coherent for the listener and their great and catchy power conveyed.

https://soundcloud.com/user-432115982/sets/my-best-themes




amazing is quite a stretch.  actually,  it is amazing that you think so highly of your music, lol.  i like to be encouraging to beginners,  but i don't like to encourage delusional egos.  i would say be a little more humble and put in a lot more work before you start thinking of yourself as amazing. if you ever want to work professionally in music,  either in soundtracks for video games or whatever,  no one is going to want to work with someone that's and ego maniac and thinks of themselves as amazing.  there are just too many really awesome, and humble,  artists out there to put up with that (right here on this forum even!). Having said all of that,  i think you have some interesting little nuggets of ideas.  but as is,  they need a lot more work. 
 
I'll relate a little story.  When I was a young lad,  it thought i was really good at basketball.  i even entertained fantasies of being in the nba.  I easily beat my dad and kept up really well against my older brother.  I then played with some actually good players and got my ass handed to me.  i realized my dad was trying to be encouraging and my brother just sucked, lol. 
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/15 13:41:37 (permalink)
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 03:57:26 (permalink)
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SuperMarioGamerThat is why I am sharing to you these amazing themes I hear right now despite not being educated and trained. Hopefully, these amazing themes will become coherent for the listener and their great and catchy power conveyed.

https://soundcloud.com/user-432115982/sets/my-best-themes




amazing is quite a stretch.  actually,  it is amazing that you think so highly of your music, lol.  i like to be encouraging to beginners,  but i don't like to encourage delusional egos.  i would say be a little more humble and put in a lot more work before you start thinking of yourself as amazing. if you ever want to work professionally in music,  either in soundtracks for video games or whatever,  no one is going to want to work with someone that's and ego maniac and thinks of themselves as amazing.  there are just too many really awesome, and humble,  artists out there to put up with that (right here on this forum even!). Having said all of that,  i think you have some interesting little nuggets of ideas.  but as is,  they need a lot more work. 
 
I'll relate a little story.  When I was a young lad,  it thought i was really good at basketball.  i even entertained fantasies of being in the nba.  I easily beat my dad and kept up really well against my older brother.  I then played with some actually good players and got my ass handed to me.  i realized my dad was trying to be encouraging and my brother just sucked, lol. 




I understand all of this.  But my question here is, are they catchy or are they just incoherent gibberish for other listeners?  Do they actually convey something profound, beautiful, great, and amazing despite the fact that they are not fully perfected crafts?  Here is one new tune I made and it, to me, conveys something profoundly moving and beautiful.  That might not be true and I am open minded towards the idea that I am delusional, but I like to discover the truth which is why I am here sharing these tunes and seeing how others will respond to them:
 
https://soundcloud.com/us...82/sets/my-best-themes
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 06:09:32 (permalink)
 
 
I kind of feel like this is a bit of a prank or something,  but I'll play along.  I like jokes, lol.
 
>But my question here is, are they catchy or are they just incoherent gibberish for other listeners? <
 
A little catchy,  but kind of gibberish.
 
>Do they actually convey something profound, beautiful, great, and amazing despite the fact that they are not fully perfected crafts? <
 
No they don't. 
 
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 06:15:57 (permalink)
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I kind of feel like this is a bit of a prank or something,  but I'll play along.  I like jokes, lol.
 
>But my question here is, are they catchy or are they just incoherent gibberish for other listeners? <
 
A little catchy,  but kind of gibberish.
 
>Do they actually convey something profound, beautiful, great, and amazing despite the fact that they are not fully perfected crafts? <
 
No they don't. 
 
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This is not a prank.  It could really be the case that any theme you have in your mind cannot be conveyed as long as you do not fully study up and train yourself on how to convey your themes.  You see, I thought there was a way for me to convey these themes right here and now that I hear in my mind.  They are, again, themes I hear in my mind that think are catchy, amazing, and conveyed profound emotion.  Me coming here was just a test to find out if I could convey these themes in the real, physical world despite being a complete beginner at composing.  I see that test has failed.  I have tried this test many times before and they all failed.  This was my final test and now I see that I really do need to fully study up and train myself in order to convey these themes I hear in my mind.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 06:21:41 (permalink)
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This is not a prank.  It could really be the case that any theme you have in your mind cannot be conveyed as long as you do not fully study up and train yourself on how to convey your themes.  You see, I thought there was a way for me to convey these themes right here and now that I hear in my mind.  They are, again, themes I hear in my mind that think are catchy, amazing, and conveyed profound emotion.  Me coming here was just a test to find out if I could convey these themes in the real, physical world despite being a complete beginner at composing.  I see that test has failed.  I have tried this test many times before and they all failed.  This was my final test and now I see that I really do need to fully study up and train myself in order to convey these themes I hear in my mind.




Yup.  But so does everyone else.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 13:22:04 (permalink)
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This is not a prank.  It could really be the case that any theme you have in your mind cannot be conveyed as long as you do not fully study up and train yourself on how to convey your themes.  You see, I thought there was a way for me to convey these themes right here and now that I hear in my mind.  They are, again, themes I hear in my mind that think are catchy, amazing, and conveyed profound emotion.  Me coming here was just a test to find out if I could convey these themes in the real, physical world despite being a complete beginner at composing.  I see that test has failed.  I have tried this test many times before and they all failed.  This was my final test and now I see that I really do need to fully study up and train myself in order to convey these themes I hear in my mind.




Yup.  But so does everyone else.




My post got deleted for whatever reason.  Maybe it was due to a forum bug.  But I will repost what I said earlier.  If you do not believe my claim that I have these amazing themes in my mind, then that all goes back to what I said earlier in regards to people who have near death experiences, drug trips, and dreams.  It is something I explained earlier in regards to how our brains are natural geniuses that are really capable of creating the next best themes in our minds regardless if you are a complete beginner at composing. 
 
If I were to become a professional composer down the road and I were to fully convey these themes I hear in my head, then if they truly were as great as I said they were and people really do think they are great, then I was speaking words of wisdom and truth all along.  But if I fully convey these themes later on down the road and it really turns out that they were not that great at all, then I was speaking words of delusion and grandeur. 
 
Nobody knows the truth for sure yet.  Only time will tell.  As for now though, it might be a waste of time for people to listen to the tracks I already have on my playlist if they are all just going to be lame, not that great, garbage, incoherent, gibberish, etc.  In addition, it would also be a waste of time and effort for me to create any more tunes and post them up on my playlist.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 14:59:38 (permalink)
You've made progress Matt. Don't worry about being 'amazing' or anything else, just keep writing and recording. There are no shortcuts.

 
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 17:02:39 (permalink)
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You've made progress Matt. Don't worry about being 'amazing' or anything else, just keep writing and recording. There are no shortcuts.




For me, music is not just about producing a craft that I can be proud of.  It is more than that.  It is the very power that music conveys. I wish to create music that conveys powerful and profound emotion.  If, let's pretend, that I have produced a song that was painstakingly crafted, but that song did not convey any profound and powerful emotion and instead conveyed just a basic, average emotion, then that craft was all just a waste to me regardless of how much time and effort I put into it.  In short, if I am going to produce any theme or song, then it has to be amazing.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 18:22:39 (permalink)
Songs in the air, songs everywhere
I like the few that brought me close to you
Some flying by, if you blink an eye
You may miss the tune, but it'll come back soon
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As many a philosopher has said, imagination is in the heart of God. All may tap into that world and bring a piece of it back to share with others. Your brain is just a conduit between spirit and body. The body is a physical means to a spiritual ends. The spirit gives meaning--the body gives purpose.
 
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 21:46:51 (permalink)
I think this is a prank, maybe....

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 22:03:41 (permalink)
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I think this is a prank, maybe....




For highly trained professionals such as the composers on this forum, it might really appear as a joke.  But you must see things from my perspective.  I am a complete beginner.  I would be lacking insight and this lack of insight might result in me saying things that I am serious about, but might appear as some sort of prank or joke to professionals.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 22:06:54 (permalink)
The beginning, intermediate, advanced bs is promulgated by academics...($$)  I learned this early in studying guitar.  If you can write a note, you can compose.  Orchestration is a different ball of wax however.  If you want to learn orchestration, spend some time with Richard Strauss.  

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 22:19:21 (permalink)
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The beginning, intermediate, advanced bs is promulgated by academics...($$)  I learned this early in studying guitar.  If you can write a note, you can compose.  Orchestration is a different ball of wax however.  If you want to learn orchestration, spend some time with Richard Strauss.  




I think you are wrong about that because, apparently, I am not composing anything good or great.  You act as though I can somehow already compose some good music despite the fact that I am just staring out with composing.  Apparently, this beginner, intermediate, and professional stage exists and, in order for me to compose some great music, that requires me to be at the professional stage.  Maybe me being at the intermediate stage would allow me to compose some good music.  I am not sure on this one though.  All I know is that I am at the beginner's stage and the music I am sharing is not that good at all.  As a matter of fact, it appears as incoherent gibberish to other listeners and/or appears as lame or mediocre.  Except for me, of course, because I know what these tunes and themes are supposed to be since I am the artist who made them in the first place.  I think I have the right notes and rests down to these tunes.  But, apparently, something more is needed to convey these tunes for what they really are.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/16 22:26:32 (permalink)
Unfortuntately, we've all been brainwashed with that bs, because it creates careers for music teachers.   Hanz Zimmer is very advanced etc... Just listen to whatever genre you like and listen carefully.  If you don't know what to listen for, then take some lessons.    There IS a pecking order with respect to musicians and they can kind of gang up on you, but it has nothing to do with the quality of yours (or their) music.  Remember that and carry on grasshopper.

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 00:21:53 (permalink)
Mario, composing is like crazy eights, playing crazy eights...have you ever?

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 12:15:50 (permalink)
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Mario, composing is like crazy eights, playing crazy eights...have you ever?




Music is very profoundly emotional to me.  I have created tunes in my mind through pure emotion (inspiration) alone.  There was no rational thought processes in the creation of these tunes.  So, maybe these tunes are gibberish since emotions are irrational and not a reliable source of judgment.  Perhaps I am projecting emotional judgments upon my tunes when, in reality, these tunes are nothing but lame and incoherent gibberish.  Since I know nothing about music, then I rely on my emotional instincts alone to create themes and tunes.  I then also rely on my emotional instincts to tell me if these tunes convey something catchy, profound, and powerful or not. 
 
Our emotional instincts are a different form of knowledge.  It is an instinctive form of knowledge and I use this alternative source of knowledge to create tunes in my mind.  For example, we can instinctively know that we are in danger or that certain acts, tones, and gestures convey something evil, beautiful, or profound.  But I think my tunes are not a random series of placed notes.  I think there is an actual pattern with these notes which means my emotions might have been right all along and that something more is needed to convey these themes.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 17:39:11 (permalink)
*very profoundly emotional for me*  stick with that.

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 19:17:31 (permalink)
...and start therapy...

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 21:22:07 (permalink)
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...and start therapy...




Why do you say that?  I am doing just fine and don't need therapy.  But, like I was saying earlier, when I created tunes in my mind through pure emotional instinct alone, soon to find out, there was an actual pattern to the notes and this pattern being there was like magic since there was no thought process involved in making that pattern.  There was one short theme I made and, as it turns out, there really is a pattern to the notes of this theme.  I have an image of the theme and I have circled the patterns I see.  This says to me that you don't need to have any knowledge of how music works when pure inspiration alone can create any great theme in your head.

As a matter of fact, I would go as far as saying you could be as great as the next Beethoven even if you are new to composing.  At least, you could only be as great as the next Beethoven in your head since it requires actual knowledge and training to learn how to convey your envisioned masterpieces.  But, like I was saying before, this short theme I am going to show you is a gentle, beautiful song.  It is supposed to be a very memorable, catchy theme that conveys a profoundly beautiful, gentle, loving, and caring personality.  When I shared this theme for others to listen to, they did tell me that it conveys nothing of the sort and that is all just a bunch of randomly placed notes.  But it's not a bunch of randomly placed notes.  It only sounds like that because there are more things I need in order to actually convey this theme. 

Apparently, having the right notes, rests, chords, and a beat to my tunes and themes isn't enough to convey them.  Thus, I would need to learn what more is needed so that others can understand and make sense of my tunes.  Anyway, this theme starts off with a catchy tune.  It is supposed to be sung by a woman who sings in a beautiful, gentle, loving, caring voice.  It then leads into the chorus part of the song.  The chorus is supposed to be sung by a women gospel choir.  The chorus then leads back into that tune again.  To finish the theme off, that woman sings very softly at the end.  So, here is the image of that theme.  You can also see the actual theme on the music sheet I have in my folder as well.  But I did make one small error here.  That is, I said they are the same notes raised or lowered.  It is not the same notes, but the same sequence of notes raised or lowered:

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 21:37:10 (permalink)
Music isn't like maths, even for bach. Those who view it as maths and language miss the boat. It's much more than that. I think you mistake complexity for quality. Most of your musings are self centered. Music requires empathy. Work on those two things: getting over yourself and getting a better definition of quality.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 21:53:33 (permalink)
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Music isn't like maths, even for bach. Those who view it as maths and language miss the boat. It's much more than that. I think you mistake complexity for quality. Most of your musings are self centered music requires empathy. Work on those two things: getting over yourself and getting a better definition of quality.




I already said music was something profoundly emotional to me.  So, it's not just a simple matter of me creating patterns of notes and thinking it conveys something profound.  I do realize there is far more to conveying profound emotion than simply having patterns of notes.  But having a pattern of notes is the necessary step though in conveying emotion because, if you just had a random series of placed notes, then that wouldn't convey anything.  What I am saying here is that I think I, at least, have the very basis of some amazing themes which would just be the pattern of notes for now.  Every time I listen to these themes and tunes in my mind, they always convey amazing, profound, and beautiful emotion. 
 
Besides, I have always been the type of person to come up with new, amazing ideas whether it be comedy scenes or something else.  Here is one example.  I have come up with a new idea for an anime.  It would be a whole new series of Inuyasha titled "Inutenshi."  Tenshi is the Japanese word for "angel."  So, rather than Inuyasha being a demon, he is now an angel in this new series.  Who knows, this new series of Inuyasha might really exist in the future.  This clearly shows here that I am indeed creative and come up with new, amazing ideas.  Perhaps I really do have some amazing tunes in my mind as well and conveying these tunes will take a lot of work, education, and training.
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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/17 21:58:18 (permalink)
Mario, I'd see a therapist, because it seems you're conflicted over something unrelated to music.  BTW have you heard john cage's pieces or any of the stochastic composers?  Why don't you pick up a copy of Grout's History of Music and start there?

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Re: The brain has an amazing natural capability and I wish to share it 2018/02/19 01:28:02 (permalink)
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Mario, I'd see a therapist, because it seems you're conflicted over something unrelated to music.  BTW have you heard john cage's pieces or any of the stochastic composers?  Why don't you pick up a copy of Grout's History of Music and start there?




I have another question and this is important.  You said that I require empathy to produce music that conveys powerful and profound emotion.  But, the thing is, I already understand emotion when it comes to music.  For example, I know when a certain theme or tune conveys something heroic or loving.  Shouldn't this understanding of emotion be enough for me to convey music that is catchy, profound, memorable, and powerful?
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No. But I think if you go to therapy it'll make you better. Right now you have the ego of a 2 year old. What you describe isn't a shared experience, and I'm not Cartesian. What you're describing is sensual dissimulation. Without the shared experience, you'll never know what is really loving or heroic. You'll just think you know it. 
 
 

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No. But I think if you go to therapy it'll make you better. Right now you have the ego of a 2 year old. What you describe isn't a shared experience, and I'm not Cartesian. What you're describing is sensual dissimulation. Without the shared experience, you'll never know what is really loving or heroic. You'll just think you know it. 
 
 




I don't understand this.  I am quite sure there were many narcissists and sociopaths out there who have composed music that conveys catchy, profound, and powerful emotion.
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