The end of posts?

Oh boy. I need to get all my unfunny in NOW!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!

In the spirit of eary hakzors, captain crunch, and the like, groups are making plans for radio/cell based intraweb connections...

Fight The Power!!!

 
That's frightening really.
 
Who would set the rules, and how would they enforce it?

MM both links go to the same old place. Or to the old same place.

So, right now, if this bill passed Soundclick, Soundcloud, Reverbnation etc. would be shutdown because many people post cover songs without obtainging a license to do so.

bapu


MM both links go to the same old place. Or to the old same place.

CORRECTED LINK

Jonbouy


If corporate owned 'The Internet LLC' has it's way it could be.

http://americancensorship.org/

This will likely get killed by the Supreme Court ... but yeah ... it is an issue since the Supreme Court is now allowing the stats to make their own laws and ... pretty soon your wife is moving to a different state because she wants an abortion and the state you are in is way too religiously minded and operated and run to be able to get it done ... etc ... etc ... pretty soon the same thing will happen in Alabama with the emmigration law ... then in Texas with the Spanish speaking folks that can not get representation because they are not cowboys of 123 generations ... in California because you are not blonde and dumb, live in the beach have a tan and ...
 
What some of these groups don't like is that they are getting criticized, and locking up the Internet is one way for them to not have to put up with critical comments to question their motives. As such, the Supreme Court needs to shut them down quickly ... and one state allowing abortion and another not, is likely inapropriate and a massive corruption of the laws in America and a total disruption of the desires and ideas in the American Constitution!
 
But it's already here ... one state owned by this and that ... one state kinda ruled by a religion, one state ruled by _______ ... so what makes you think that Utah appreciates the open-ness of the Internet if there are posts the world over that might criticize what they do?
 
I would hope/imagine that some of these folks can realize the deep folly in that and not fall prey to that stuff ... but in the end, there are way too many religious this and that and mothers for this and that ... that think they are right and the rest of the world is wrong ... and they want the Internet locked up because it is evil!
 
You should have seen in 1983 (or 84 can't remember) ... in Pendleton OR when MTV came out ... the church went crazy, the folks were mad ... and they were crying fowl and that tv was trying to corrupt their children. I was already aware of another situation in California that helped another movie ... and I happened to be having dinner with one of the assistant pastors and he wanted to talk about that ... and I told him about the famous movie that made millions, because the church would not shut up ... I finally suggested ... shut up. And if someone asks, just say that it's not worth of the discussion, and that you prefer to stick to the spiritual things ... not anything else. And I asked him if he was corrupt'able. He said not likely ... and then I said turn left walk proud that you believe in something that you know is true and important ... the rest doesn't matter ... it was really funny how the discussion disappeared and no one ever said anything else about it anymore ...

youtube is already doing it, and I think it has already passed. What it means is that people making money from it, are the ones, that will get in trouble so far or if you record music from a movie (and the copyright holder does not allow it) or anything like that.

But a cover song is just that, and at youtube it is not allowed to make any money (which with an original song I think you maybe able to if so many people play it or something like that - have not looked into it that much) but it has been discussed on other forums.

In other words, it is a plan to make people pay for the Internet which is free now, so I suppose the Govmint can make more taxes.

I fight authority. Authority always wins.

You know where this song really came from: (hint - Micheal Jackson)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...2mU6USTBRE&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/wa...cJjMnHoIBI&ob=av2e

makes me wonder if what is going on is going on!

And the last words heard from the American Dictator before the revolution started were "Let them use Cakewalk!"

Hi,

I don't know where I stand here ... I really don't.

It's scary, because I might say something here and get trashed and nothing will ever come out of it, even IF there is some value in it, which sometimes there is, but some folks won't read that far or that deep.

It does bother me, that there are too many times when folks go around sniffing each other and that's the "majority" and that means that anything else is wrong ... and that is supposed to be the law of the land?

I'm concerned with the corruption of the American Constitution and one day someone will say it out loud and it will be heard ... but until then we have to put up with Mud Mothers for the American Monkees, who think that they are the keepers of every brother and sister and all the laws should be setup according to their angers ... and the bad part of this? ... the political arena is no longer about the issues at hand, but what these folks want ... and they will violate the Constitution to change the law to their wishes ... and this is the part that the Supreme Court needs to say ... enough is enough ... just because you don't like abortion, the country is not wrong and the rest of the people are not wrong, but to lock others up from being able to make their own choice is WRONG ... and the Supreme Court has lost the ability to support the Constitution and its ideals ... and I can go back as far as the Reagan administration with folks wanting to still take down Roe vs Wade ... talk about bad losers ...

If we're going to be a democracy, these Mud Mothers need to take a hike ... sorry ... you have to have respect for the opposing views ... and sometimes folks don't.
 
I might not agree with all the music played here and enjoy it as much ... but I have a lot of care for pretty much everyone here ... and their talents and abilities. But saying that they are right and I am wrong or I am right and you are wrong ... is inapropriate all around, and sad. I love everyone in here too much to think they are wrong even though I can play an Ma better than an Am!

Jonbouy

mike_mccue


I'd love to read a realistic synopsis of the issue.

The idea of contacting my representatives doesn't seem like a bad idea.

I just don't really have a clear understanding of this particular issue.

Anyone?

best regards,
mike

It basically means what I often state.

People get frightened of true freedom and will eventually pay a subscription to a sanitized version of what somebody decides what freedom should be.

In other words we don't trust ourselves to think for ourselves so we appoint an authority to think for us in order that we can blame them for the state we end up in because it has nothing to do with us.

You are an intelligent man Mike you could look up what it is all about inform yourself of the implications of it and make up your own mind if you wanted to.  Maybe it's just easier for you to feign ignorance rather than think about it.  No shame in that, it seems to be a popular reaction.

There are already laws against theft and copyright infringement without the need for a new bill and without the need to stifle liberty and freedom of information.

Hi Jon,
 I think, for my part, it's more of a reluctance to embark on a journey of learning where experience has taught me that the easiest info to come across will likely be the most tainted with bias and mistruth.

 I was/am sincerely hoping that someone such as yourself, someone whom I feel I can trust to reveal their own bias... and whom seems to be so thoughtful might be able to provide an unbiased list of considerations.

 Personally, I am assaulted by claims of impending doom each and every day. I'm glad to have some form of protective mechanism that keeps that from driving me crazy.

 The fact that you, Jon, are promoting this issue was the very thing that caused me to stop and pay and extra moment of attention.

 I do remain curious, and in fact I happened to spend the afternoon with the state's Speaker of the House of Representatives so I thought, maybe, if I had some idea what this was actually and really about, that I might think to mention it to someone that has a job like that. :-)

 The thing is, it is simply too easy to gather info that makes you uninformed... so I really was hoping for some guidance.

 I don't disagree with anything you said in your post that I quoted... I'm just commenting about it further. I also want to point out that I am not trying to obligate you to entertain my request... I'm just explaining why I thought to ask in the first place.



"There are already laws against theft and copyright infringement without the need for a new bill and without the need to stifle liberty and freedom of information."

 The spirit of that statement resonates with my personal sensibilities.



all the very best,
mike

Yes Mike I did come across like I was on the side of a particular campaign here which isn't the case.

It's more of a reminder really to watch out for the tendency for an indivduals ability to think to be cast by legislature into some convenient jelly-mould that only ever seems to serve the highest bidder.

I agree there's plenty of data but very little useful information to guide anyone on any of these things and at the end of the day it is probably all about following those things which resonate best with one's sensibilities that any of us can rely on to any extent.

To that end I think these things are worth flagging up whichever way people end up leaning toward.

I see the liberty gained through free speech by the peoples of the world more compelling a use for the internet than being able to buy Katy Perry's latest album for $2.49.

Hopefully though the time will come when both those things become a reality.

mike_mccue


Jon,

Perhaps You and I can find some forward thinking investors and we will run a network of pass through servers and take a big slice of the advertising pie. ;-)

Maybe bapsi will guide us through our IPO.


best,
mike

Correct, Bapu's guidance should always be sought, especially when navigating ones way through an IPO.

What was I thinking?

I forgot for awhile that it was me thinking for myself that brought me to the Coffee House in the first place, I clearly need guidance.

Bapu? 

Where Am I?