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2011/05/15 10:43:40 (permalink)

The question is..


What is YOUR beer of choice?

I go for Colt45.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 10:59:12 (permalink)

    That's not beer... it's Malt Liqour.

    Game over.

    :-)

    Besides... aren't you a little young for drinking rot gut?

    When you're ready... I'd recommend a beer that is made of better ingredients and has some nutritional value. ;-)




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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 11:08:23 (permalink)

    Aww. Coors then. I'm 1 year less but I drink inside the house along with nice finger food, so i'm legal. Never drank outside, so me mum trusts me.

    I actually never knew the term malt liquor. So that's why it was higher than regular. 

    Nutrition-wise, would you approve of guiness draught then? Which are the healthy ones? So I know what to get.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 11:26:14 (permalink)
    I like Guiness OK but it's not vegetarian... and now a days it's sorta just mass produced and kinda ok.

    Over here in the USA there are a growing number of small breweries which are trying to make well made beers that are similar to the kinds of beer that never disappeared in other parts of the world.

    For a while mass produced beers (like Coors) dominated the USA market and it was hard to purchase a well made beer no matter how hard you looked for one.

    I recently worked with Mr Peter Coors of Miller Coors Brewery... and when he was asked if they could compete with the quality of the newer "craft" beers made in USA he simply said something to the effect of "no... we can't make beer like that and sell it at the price we need too."



    I enjoy the better made varieties.

    I was just joking about the age thing... my dad used to hand me a beer while barbecuing on Saturday afternoons when I was very young. By the time I got to college... drinking beer wasn't all that interesting. I think dad did ok by making it seem less glamorous and it saved me from a distraction that lots of people have to deal with when they are coming of age.

    I still enjoy beer... but mainly for the taste... so I tend to be picky about what I choose.

    BTW, Malt Liquor is really just an arbitrary legal term... lots of European beers have similar alcohol content and are called Ale, Bock, etc.

    Over here the term Malt Liqour really means cheap, nasty, and get drunk fast... none of which have anything to do with taste or quality. That's why I was kidding you about the Colt45. It's thought of as the worst of the worst over here.


    Anyways... Enjoy!!!

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 11:27:04 (permalink)
    Very partial to this..



    Or this;





    Or this;



     
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 11:41:27 (permalink)

    @mike

    So that's why Colt doesn't even taste like beer, more like just alcohol wit hop, that's why I think I liked it, especially when I didn't have money and just wanted to sleep early. Best hop flavor IMO is San Miguel Pale Pilsen. Slightly more expensive than colt here, but it's a lot expensive in other countries. Better than Corona IMO. Never got to taste quality "craft" beers, since I can't find them anywhere. Even the Guiness was already a lucky find if you find some. Heinecken is sooooo expensive so I never got to taste it yet, since I also haven't got any recommendations that it is good. Looking forward to high and mighty though.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 11:52:16 (permalink)
    Redback--from Melbourne, Australia.  It's pretty hard to get in the U.S., though. 

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 12:03:06 (permalink)
    You may be surprised to learn that some of your local beers are very well made.

    The difference between San Miguel and Corona is that San Miguel is made by an old German family that brought their tradition to the recipe.

    Corona is corn beer... it's the Miller High Life of Mexican beer.

    Heineken brought to USA is expensive hopped up rot gut. It is so bad that we are left to assume that it is the rot got of Holland and that the Dutch laugh at us when we drink it.

    Many of the world famous beers have varied recipes to suit local tastes around the globe. So my opinion of Guinness or Heineken may not match someone else experience in other parts of the world.

    For example; when I was a young man, Guinness was a dirt cheap beer, it was cheaper than Busch lite... and it was brought into Florida from the Bahamas... and it was very very good.

    It was the brand surfing bums like myself would enjoy at the beach.

    Now the stuff we get to buy in the USA is brewed/mixed/manufactured in Canada at the Labatts plant.

    Guinness is the most expensive brand name beer on the shelf and it tastes like it is mass produced with a lack of love.

    Luckily we have many better choices of small batch Porter and Stout once again.


    My dad used to tell me that before prohibition every town in the USA had a small brewery. After the repeal of prohibition the breweries that came back had a large scale manufacturing mentality and the idea of low grade consistency out weighed the idea of quality. So, for many years you could only buy bad beer in the USA. Before prohibition, when my dad was a kid he would go down to the local brewery with a small bucket and get fresh tapped beer for his grand father almost every day. My great Grandpa would give him a nickel. The bucket of beer costs 4 cents and so my dad had a penny to buy a few pieces of candy on the way back home. To hear my dad explain it, the local beer was every bit as good as the luxury beers sold today... that was simply what beer was. If it wasn't good tasting it was bad beer.

    That was all before multi million dollar advertising campaigns became the norm for marketing bad beer in the USA.

    That sort of thing didn't happen in other parts of the world and so you will find that many countries have great beers that are made locally simply to suit the taste of people who enjoy good beer. San Miguel is a good example. It is just a good beer

    I'll bet you have a a few local made choices that I would enjoy a whole lot.

    Something to think about.

    best regards,
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 12:22:45 (permalink)

    That was enlightening mike! I don't want to offend antibes tongue, but the reason I first tried Colt was from a friend in Sweden. I asked "is Heinecken good?". He answered, "tastes like steel, like colt". I then went to the grocery, looked at Heinecken and it's price was three bottles of San Mig for one. I then remembered what he said, so I got colt. I tasted it, then I thought it was like baby beer, it was like water on ice and was a good thirst quencher, easy to drink like water, so then I thought that it was meant to be more tame.

     I also thought that there were 2 pale lager types, one that tasted like steel and one that tasted like hop. So I bought 2 variants everytime just to switch and explore more. Only now did I know that the reason why red horse and colt were extremely cheap and tasted like watery steel is because they were rot-gut, and the reason why San Mig tasted best with beef stew was because it was real beer!

    I admit to drink and like both. I like "beer" with food and gargling to spread the taste around my mouth (well not gargling in a mouthwash way, you know what I mean!) and I like rot-gut for bottoms-up since it is more watery. But now I know why they taste so different.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 12:28:49 (permalink)
    I meant any ones, not Antibes. Stupid iTouch spell checker

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 12:42:45 (permalink)

    :-)


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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 13:07:47 (permalink)
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 13:35:46 (permalink)
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    Very partial to this..



    Or this;

     


    Two excellent choices there James, to which I'd add:
     

     

     

     
     
     
     
     
    Or this;


     
    I don't know if they sell that round here mate, but I'll certainly keep a look out for it
     
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 13:49:29 (permalink)
    Can't call it a favourite exactly as I've only just been introduced to it, but have to say I found it more than acceptable....



    might be of interest to you real ale guys.


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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 17:19:30 (permalink)
    If I want beer I'll usually get Miller GD. Or Coors. Sometimes Busch. I like Carling, very smooth to me, but not real popular down here. Samuel Adams or St. Pauli Girl.
    I spent a few years in Germany when I was young and of all the beers I've ever tried, nothing comes close to real, German Henninger.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 17:42:47 (permalink)
    I like real beer - if you can see through it then forget it.

    When I had a home bar I always kept Drop Top on tap though MirrorPond and Younger's Special Bitter are also favorites.

     
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 18:34:53 (permalink)
    I like Guiness OK but it's not vegetarian... and now a days it's sorta just mass produced and kinda ok.

     
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 18:40:14 (permalink)
    The fish juice: isinglass


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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 21:18:47 (permalink)
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    jamesg1213


    Very partial to this..



    Or this;

     


    Two excellent choices there James, to which I'd add:
     

     

     

     
     
     
     
     
    Or this;


     
    I don't know if they sell that round here mate, but I'll certainly keep a look out for it
     
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    Would I be wrong in adding a little newki brown to this.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 21:27:16 (permalink)
    I'd be real interested in tasting your local newki.

    Over here it has become hugely popular and it seems to have gotten sweeter and sweeter and seemingly flat in carbonation. I've stopped trying to enjoy it... it's almost like a stale sweet soft drink.

    I expect it's quite different back in it's home turf.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/15 21:43:40 (permalink)
    In my college years, this one was a regular favorite:




    Unfortunately no longer exported to the US.





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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 12:01:00 (permalink)
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    What is YOUR beer of choice?

    Root.
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:07:17 (permalink)
    When I moved to Florida, I recall that I kind of lost interest in the beer there. It was hard to find a decent brew so I have to give Mike extra credit for his knowledge of brews. My first real impression of beer was established at the age of 15 in Germany ( along the Rhine ). I traveled with my Dad and spent about a week. Every afternoon about 4:00 we would find a nice spot and enjoy a good pint. My Dad wasn't much of a beer drinker either.

    Back in the states as a young lad I would enjoy many of the Canadian Ale's until I moved to Florida. Having moved back to New York state, we generally had Sam Adams in the house. Once I moved to New Hampshire, there were a number of delightful brews from the local breweries (Vermont/Newhampshire) that found themseleves in our home, such as Long Trail, magic hat, harpoon, nutfields, etc.

    When I moved to Pa.... We kept Yuengling exclusively on our shelves.  (In Pa, the minimum purchase was a case.)

    Now that I'm in Canada, I haven't acquired a taste for the Canadian beers. The Molson here isn't like I remember it and Labatts just doesn't do it for me.


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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:12:01 (permalink)
    I used to like Genesee Cream Ale.  That one is tough to find in CA, too.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:14:21 (permalink)
    Yeah, Genesse was great until the next morning.... We used to call them Genny-Screamers

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:17:19 (permalink)
    Hey Strummy..

    are those beers you posted bottled WITHOUT preservatives? I am assuming they are not exported , thus you drink them quickly.

    When I lived in Germany I loved the local beers there(every state has a brewery and most cities), no preservatives in them. That sure does change the flavor. Even when I find some of the imports here from Deutchesland , they are loaded with them..

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:34:28 (permalink)
    We are blessed with an abundance of micro breweries here and whenever we decide to eat at one of their establishments I'll try something new. Ive even had chocolate beer...one micro brewery here has a variety sampler so you get to try them all.

    I am by no stretch a beer expert.....being raised strict Baptist beer was thought of as bad. Later in life I developed a liking for certain beers but never liked beer as more than a great thing to have with certain foods. I like Yuengling. Have recently tried Blue moon and that was ok. I don't enjoy drinking beer straight without food and one glass is enough for me.

    I am much more of a wine person. I tend more toward the sweet reds and whites. Local wineries here are fun to visit for tastings.

    Blackberry wine is also a favorite of mine. I don't drink to get drunk, so one or maybe two glasses of wine or one beer are where I stop



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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 13:58:15 (permalink)
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    What is YOUR beer of choice?

    Root.


    BTW, I have never tasted real sarsaparilla/root beer in my life.

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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 14:34:11 (permalink)
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    Hey Strummy..

    are those beers you posted bottled WITHOUT preservatives? I am assuming they are not exported , thus you drink them quickly.
     
     
    I'm not sure MM - alcoholic beverages are one 'food' product in the UK that doesn't by law have to display the ingredients (only the ABV%).
     
    However, most canned, bottled and keg-conditioned (for draught dispensing) beer is usually filtered and pasteurised before being added to its container - I'm assuming once sealed in its vessel it wouldn't need preservatives. Some beers are brewed especially for the bottle - these may be unfiltered so the final fermentation occurs in the bottle, this helps it maintain its character and is probably the nearest to cask conditioned beer (sometimes referred to as 'Real Ale') as you can get.
     
    Cask-conditioned beer (again for draught dispensing) is a different animal altogether though. This leaves the brewery in a sealed cask, without being filtered or pasteurised. Having been allowed to settle in the pub's cellar for a day or two, and a day or two before its expected to be tapped, the sealing peg is removed from the cask and replaced with a porous wooden peg, called a spile. This allows air to circulate in and out of the cask and allow a further secondary fermentation to occur - the spile, although porous, is dense enough to keep harmful spoilants from entering the cask.
     
    Once the secondary fermentation has finished, the beer will be clear and ready to tap and the spile is replaced with an airtight sealing plug. To qualify as genuine 'Real Ale' no gas (usually CO2 or Nitrogen) should be added to the cask to pressurise it - it should be delivered to the dispense point either by gravity directly from the barrel, or by the traditional 'beer-engine' siphon. As the amount of beer in the cask decreases, the plug is occasionally removed to equalise the air pressure.
     
    As it has never been pasteurised, the shelf-life of a cask once it has been exposed to the air is usually only a matter of days.
     
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    Re:The question is.. 2011/05/16 14:51:00 (permalink)
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    What is YOUR beer of choice?

    Root.

    Ah!  But that's a whole 'nother discussion in and of itself!
     
    Personally, I prefer a Steelhead root beer made with vanilla and honey.  Yum!  (Though A&W straight from the keg is pretty darned wonderful too...)

     
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