generally speaking, no company releases a trial / demo soon after a new product line...

2 very obvious reasons , think of it as well if it was your company.

1) a lot of people are  potential new users to whatever product.. so you want it to work as best as possible (AFTER patching any issues) .

2) say they did release a "test" version for existing customers... the same potential customers would be expecting support for something they hadn't bought yet.. maybe at the expense of customers who had paid.. It would be the worst time to release such a thing, when things are quieter and by patching .. it cuts down the support calls a LOT i bet.

I hope X1B comes out when Cakewalk is ready.  Even if they promise February - I would rather they break any self-imposed deadline than release X1B too soon.
 
Let's give them a break.  They have a lot of comments and a lot of work.  I doubt they are making a fortune on all this.
 
At the same time, I want them to take all the posts seriously.  And I assume they are doing so.

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generally speaking, no company releases a trial / demo soon after a new product line...

2 very obvious reasons , think of it as well if it was your company.

1) a lot of people are  potential new users to whatever product.. so you want it to work as best as possible (AFTER patching any issues) .

2) say they did release a "test" version for existing customers... the same potential customers would be expecting support for something they hadn't bought yet.. maybe at the expense of customers who had paid.. It would be the worst time to release such a thing, when things are quieter and by patching .. it cuts down the support calls a LOT i bet.

   I'm not sure that I am understanding your comment.

 I tested beta versions of...

 Presonus Studio One.  The only thing I owned is their small 1394 unit.
 Reason 5. I had a registered version of Reason Adapted.
 
 Testing FL Studio 9.7 beta.  They rely on us to give input. 
 
 I can test at anytime....

 Beta versions of EnergyXT, Ableton.

 as for Reaper-they update it constantly. I have licenses of all of those products except for Presonus.

 
 There may be just as many companies that have public betas that don't.   Presonus and Propellerhead showed no fear in presenting public betas.

 Your second point is really hard to understand.  If a potential customer doesn't see any signs of support, they will never be customers.  I do think that most betas are limited to people who have some registered product from that company or if you are subscribed to a mailing list.

 One of the above companies I am becoming more found of is because of more direct communication between end users and development.

 As for X1, I was easily pleased because I wanted a GUI change. Couldn't complain about the upgrade price either.

 

It's in development, with a planned release any time during the first quarter of the year, as was made clear before the end of last year. So no, not a good question from the OP. Actually more like the OP acting like a child.

if that how you feel. that's ok, if enough is enough then it's time to move on. hopefully they get it right and maybe you come back to sonar. time will tell.

 I was a bit too tired and a bit too B**chy whe I wrote this. I want to remain with Cake . I guess I was like waiting all year for your birthday anly to  find out its not a leap year and you were born on Feb 29th. I am not furtunate enough to be able to to work when I don't feel creative. Nothing puts a wrench is my creativity more than having to fight with my tools. I believe Cake has a great track record of customer support and stability/qualitry of thier products. I liked it so much that  I sold all my RME stuff to invest in a VS 700 C and R last year. Im not made of money and would possibly have to switch to a RADAR + some othe DAW such as SADIE or S**t tools to get my work done at considerable ,more cost. Also, a number of weeks ago I calleds my AVID rep in Vacouver  Canada and he refered to Cake as an amature Daw and not in the same class as P T.
 This really pissed me off as I know that the software design of cake, when it works ,blows PT away. It is releases like X1 that ;give these other companies the amunition to make these kind of statements.  I know HD is a dedicated hardware system but their pres and converters still; suck. Their Native system is also very buggy. Cubase was good and solid in the Atari Days, but I believe it never seems to know which direction it is going given it's many owners, and it isas of now  very buggy.  I used DP years ago and liked it but was very feature poor one needed to plug in Eqs even and it was very resource hungry .
 I down loaded at the demo of studio One and it works well but is also feature poor and ugly. I tried to crash it, and mananaged   to do it with quick on the fly changes and lots of plugins. It will get there some day but it is not there yet
. Logic is too embedded with apple.
 I have not tried reaper but after doing lots of research on the net it is considered by many not to be stable.
 Gear Sluts hate every one. Sweetwater is all over the forms and love what ever they sell. Sound on Sound ( had a 3 year subscription) is full of good info but the reviews are a bit slanted I think in the direction of their advertsers.
I come from way back in the land of tape and I will be the first to admit that there were many tech problems in those days as well.
 The only difference now is most of us are wearing all the hats and just can't affort a (,Magic Alex) to hang around to solve our technical problems.
 Please forgive me for losing it in my 1st post on this issue.  But I have been working on 4 tunes for  the past 3 weeks and keep switching because I somehow foolishly convnce myself that  the change in material will lessen the sting of the frequent crashes. Please CakeWalk be all you can be and blow these other DAWS out of the water with stability and features.
You have the loylalty of your users, all be impatient users at times.
I know this release would have been much better accepted if it was released  with the honest lable of a Beta Version. There would have been a lot more productive input from the users ,as those who bought it would have bought it in the know an have a vested interest in making it work. There would have been much less anger as those that were for warned would have acted on infomed consent. You never lose customers with honesty. You will loose many with apathy. Anyway sorry to all for my easlier flame. I wish only the best to all my fellow cake wakers  and to the Bakers themselves.  Its like a happy long marrage I can't just leave for one big scew up.
I wouldn't know where or how to start over. cheers
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It is pretty amazing that X1 will be un-usable for many people for at least 1/4 of its lifetime (before the next version comes along). A week or two would be one thing, but what, 3 months? That is just crazy...

To be honest, I also gave X1 another chance, but the state X1a is in is unacceptable. X1b update should be an emergency fix, being available by NAMM next week. If they do presentations I am sure they already have a "build" which is a little more reliable. If X1 keeps crashing in front of the press and bystanders it will make a far less than 9/10 impression. If core features are broken, how does anyone want to present that?