Freddie H

Lanceindastudio


Am I the only one that would love to get a 24 back of Europe's finest and have a session with Freddie one night to get to know the man behind the plan?

It is the extremities that entice me.

Lance

Love too!
 
I don't know if I are that "extremities"? I  only asking for things that should work and be included in the first place.
Sure, I do use modern technology but also Vintage gear too. (Hybrid mixing)
 
I don't know why this music related software industry has been so overall slow on progress to example x64? (not Cakewalk) ?
Today almost all plugins support x64bit.
 
I think if you want someone to blame its Pro Tools, WAVES & Flashplayer that were the ones holding the progress back for years. x64bit OS has worked in the box for almost 8 years now still Pro Tools are in x32bit only? Waves has changed to x64bit though and so do Flashplayer too. I reckon example Waves and all other companies got to their senses now and recognize that there are far more users of their plugins & softwares on x64-DAW platforms & x64 OS then their are users on Pro Tools x32.
I know AVID and  Pro Tools are working on their x64bit version but still they are to late and will be last DAW that will support x64bit.
 
 
 
 
 
Have a great one my friend!

Scott Lee

Freddie H

Scott Lee

64-Bit makes ya big hits and big cash.


Not sure how anyone before 64-bit made music. Not sure how even I made music? 


Having a bit of fun at freddie's expense. Even with 2 64-bit machines with massive amounts of ram, still could do just as much as my previous 32-bit system. /shrug.  
Carry on.  

Only tells us that you don't know or fully understand a modern system potentials setup, hybrid mixing in use of control features like EUCON!
I don't know about you, but I working and producing tracks with +100 tracks and 4-8GB GB RAM, automation in use always.
x32bit would make everything an impossible task for me.


Having a bit of fun at your expense. Perhaps you're project are 10 tracks of Audio + 1 banjo and a cowbell? Under these condition I sure understand why you don't see the big picture..?.  

/sigh Tech is a tool, and 64-bit isn't the answer making people better musicians. You must be new to the music creation world and assume tech and or 100+ tracks makes your music any better. When we look back at 4 track beatle songs, or 10 track Van Halen or Michael Jackson hits, its really hard to see your point of view. Unless you can list YOUR commercially successful hits from the BIG studio?   

64-bit is a luxury freddie, not a showstopper.  Is it a upgrade? Yes! But the way you carry on about it, you make it sound like you couldn't compose without it. I would be more concerned with the current standing with the audio engine then 64-bit.

Guitarpima

Scott Lee

Freddie H

Scott Lee

64-Bit makes ya big hits and big cash.


Not sure how anyone before 64-bit made music. Not sure how even I made music? 


Having a bit of fun at freddie's expense. Even with 2 64-bit machines with massive amounts of ram, still could do just as much as my previous 32-bit system. /shrug.  
Carry on.  

Only tells us that you don't know or fully understand a modern system potentials setup, hybrid mixing in use of control features like EUCON!
I don't know about you, but I working and producing tracks with +100 tracks and 4-8GB GB RAM, automation in use always.
x32bit would make everything an impossible task for me.


Having a bit of fun at your expense. Perhaps you're project are 10 tracks of Audio + 1 banjo and a cowbell? Under these condition I sure understand why you don't see the big picture..?.  

/sigh Tech is a tool, and 64-bit isn't the answer making people better musicians. You must be new to the music creation world and assume tech and or 100+ tracks makes your music any better. When we look back at 4 track beatle songs, or 10 track Van Halen or Michael Jackson hits, its really hard to see your point of view. Unless you can list YOUR commercially successful hits from the BIG studio?   

64-bit is a luxury freddie, not a showstopper.  Is it a upgrade? Yes! But the way you carry on about it, you make it sound like you couldn't compose without it. I would be more concerned with the current standing with the audio engine then 64-bit.

If it were available, they would have used it. We have it so why not make it the best it can be?

Scott Lee

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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Perhaps I can sum this up.

1) Can you make good music on x86 systems? A. Yes.
2) Are x64 systems required to create good music? A. No?
2) Do x64 systems generally perform better than x86 systems. A. Yes
3) Do some kinds of audio productions benefit from what x64 systems offer. A. Yes.

Answers are based on my own subjective experience and years of anecdotal evidence.

A quote from a few posts I made up this thread.


64-bit is a luxury freddie

No it's a daily status! Everyone use it daily, except you!  

Scott Lee


Hi Rain,

thanks for the input! You know, I come from the days of making module music. Long ago before midi, I was in the demo scene. We had a total of 4 tracks, 8-bit stereo on the amiga (SID where even worst on the 64, but thats another story :) ). 

Still til this day I have heard songs from that era that blow my mind. Sometimes to work with less takes you further. No greater limitation then yourself so go for it!

Again, I don't want one to think I am downplaying a 64-bit machine. I have 2 myself including a 12 core mac running at 24 vitural cores - 64-bit. What I will say is creativity is boundless, technology isn't. Whatever you own today will be outdated tomorrow, your skill and love for what you do is timeless.

Best,

Rain


Well, that's obviously not just Scott, Freddie. The fact that I chimed in and that you go on saying that every one except Scott uses it daily tells a lot about a certain tendency you have to use hyperboles, sometimes severely twisting the facts.

As far as I know, Scott doesn't use PT - judging from recent pics he posted, my bet is - Studio One. ;)

I'm the one who mentioned, Pro Tools here. I don't use it. I don't even like it. I don't recommend it. That being said, in spite of all this, it is a fact that that particular album was recorded and mixed on an old and outdated rig, technically "inferior" to any other native solution on the market at that time. Including my own Sonar rig. And this wasn't a simple folk record, but a full-fledged industrial metal band - a very complex and elaborate production, which won me over on its own merits, w/o me knowing how it was recorded. 

I think you mixed up everything in regards to freeze unfreeze - I mention that and I'm working in Logic, not Pro Tools. I am not aware that Pro Tools has a freeze function.

Anyway,  no matter how fast your system gets, no matter the incredible amount of RAM you can access - some developer somewhere sometime, will come up w/ something that'll bring that monster set-up of yours to its knees.

Try it - add something like Wave Arts Tube Saturator in real time on every track in one of your + 100 tracks projects, all at the manufacturer's recommended 96 Khz.  See how long it takes before all that essential ultra-modern 64 bits DAW of yours begs you to freeze some tracks... Now, fortunately, freezing is an option, isn't it. :)

No one told no one to invest into anything. We simply stated the fact that a 32 bits machine can still deliver amazing performance and that 64 Bits alone won't make such a crucial difference as your post could lead some to believe. Multiple cores on the other hand make a much more tangible difference. 

It IS important.  It IS a welcome technology, and the way of the future. But 32 Bits systems aren't yet a thing of the past. The simple fact that the vast majority of the pro studio out there are using Pro Tools demonstrate that abundantly. They might not be cutting edge, but they're certainly not as outdated as the old 4 tracks.

It's almost as if you completely disregard the crucial importance hardware in favor of your 64 bits agenda. Some newbies could be lead to believe that their outdated setup will instantly turn into a monster the minute they move to 64 bits, because you are making out the difference to be so absolutely drastic. 

Scott Lee


Yes I know nodes. Its a "audio farm" system for logic. Handy tool! If you do get the mac, you absolutely love it. I took the "plunge" and am ecstatic with the results.


The closest thing I use to do with Sonar is use FX-Teleport for VST over LAN control. Had a slave system handling the "big synths" back in the early 2000s. Today its not even an issue, even on a 32-bit machine. 

1. It's not mid-Feb yet
2. The audio engine is working