That is truly bizaar. The one shouldn't affect the other like that. I've just run through some scenarios, changing driver modes, etc. and I can't get the record and monitor buttons to dissapear. I've never seen that. Realy strange behavior like that usually suggests some kind of corruption in the program. I've been getting bombarded with security updated, and sometimes these can have some really odd effects. Windows updates can make some wierd things happen sometimes as well. Have you seen any of those recently?
It's your call, but this is where I would do a System Restore to several days, or even weeks ago. When bits and pieces of a program disappear, something is horribly wrong, and taking it back to where it was happy may help.
Just checked something. Verify that you are seeing audio tracks, and not just the busses(Master,Subgroup,etc.) tThese do not have Record and Monitor buttons.

it's the weirdest thing.
my audio track is now a midi (DXi) track.
it says audio but there is the green DXi logo there and it has the name of the synth i used.
but my vocal data is still there...but it won't play (be heard)

what do you think caused this?

I could always copy the vocal data and move it to a new audio track.

ORIGINAL: RobertB

You could do that. If you have named your projects before you record, you may be able to identify the wav files that are saved when you record any audio. You could open a new project and import them.

I meant i could copy the vocal track and move it to a new audio track in the same project.

I shut it down and unplugged. I restarted and it was still audio data in a midi channel.

The other audio tracks (the ones i bounced midi into) are fine. They are still "audio".

It's only the first two tracks where i put vocals. THis is extremely bizarre.

I'm going to procede by just copying to a new track and see what happens.

but i did notice that the new patchmix session i set up with your tutorial seems to be working fine. I have yet to see if that signal (the foreign noise that started me initiating a new patchmix session), was still coming in on audio tracks yet.
I will check when i get home.

THank you, Robert.



Rick

I'll have to make a mental note of that one, Rick.
I just tried setting the input of an audio track to a synth, and sure enough, no more record or monitor buttons. I started looking around, and realized that none of the synth audio tracks have these buttons. I never noticed that before. It looks like MC/SHS treats the audio track as a normal synth output. Glad to see you figured it out, and it's nothing serious.
It looks like things are coming together for you.
Carry on,and good luck!

YEAH!!!

I see there is nothing in my record timing master in options> audio.

how do i get something in there?

Check:
Inputs highlighted in Options>Audio>Drivers
Record Timing Master set to E-MU
Input in Audio track -What does that show?
Do the track meters move when the track is armed?
Do the meters in Patchmix move?
What are you recording?

With a PCI card input, i find it very very, very, and did i say Very Advantageous to have a mixer attached so as to have a place to monitor the mix where the input is monitoried

Rick,
Are you going to be around in about two hours?
I'm still at work.
what synths are you using with those 5 MIDI tracks?
What effects are you using?
Could you add MC3, your OS, CPU, and RAM to your signature? It makes it easier for us to keep track of what we are working with.

You've got it covered, actually.
Te AMD Sempron 3000+2.oo Ghz is what I was looking for.
You have direct monitoring available through your 0404. I am working on the best way to access that right now, as I realized that the E-MU thread did not address that.
What synths and effects are you using? Your AMD should be roughly equal to my P4, and there are ways to get the best performance from them at a given moment.

If you've converted all MIDI to AUDIO did you ARCHIVE the MIDI and the SYNTH TRACKS? you need to do that in order to preserve your CPU AND to make the mix right because you'll be mixing with BOTH the AUDIO and MIDI playing at the same time if you leave the MIDI and SYNTH tracks running.

Tracks-Archive

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The Tracks-Archive command silences the specified track for playback and removes its data from RAM. You must stop playback to change a track's archive status.

For more information about the Tracks-Archive command, see Track-by-Track Playback and Silencing Tracks.

That allows you to keep the MIDI tracks for future editing, but it doesn't play. Even a muted MIDI track is playing, using RAM, you just don't hear it.

I did it all except the 8ms in ASIO.
Do you mean 80?
I tried it at 10 (don't have 8) and it completely skipped and stuttered so i put it at 80 and i think it's working.

also there is a clicking in the background i hear.

i now see no movement in my audio green bar in MC3. Is this correct?
It did eliminate the delay. You're a genius.

I've put this little exercise together to make sure we are seeing and hearing the same thing. It starts from ground zero.
Turn off MC3, and open Patchmix. Turn off your external speakers, and monitor through your headphones.
Speak into your mic. You should hear yourself in one ear, and see the meter moving on only one input strip. The MAIN MIX meter should show activity on only one side. Do Not change the hard panned settings in your input strips.
Now, open MC3. Start a new project, using the 4audio track template. Click the Advanced or All tab at the bottom of the track view.
If you can't see it, pull the Master bus up from the bottom of the track view.
Set the Output of all tracks to Master.
Set the Stereo Interlace (><) to Mono(>) on tracks 1 and 2..
Set the Input of track 1 to Left..Aux 1 L
Set the input of track 2 to Right..Aux 1 L.
Speak into the mic. You should still hear yourself in one ear, but see no meter activity in MC3.
Now arm both tracks to record. You should see meter activity on only one track, and still hear yourself in one ear. You should see no activity on the Master bus meter. Which track shows activity?
Disarm the track that shows no activity.
Go ahead and record some noise on the active track. We are recording this as a Mono track, so you should see only one waveform.
Disarm the record button.
Now rewind and play it back. You should now hear the track centered in the stereo field. The track meter and the Master bus meter should now show some activity.
Let me know how you're looking so far, and we can proceed.
I realize you probably know most of this, but there are others who may be taggin along.