UAD latest update with Sonar Plat and Win 7?

Are any of you running the latest UAD updates using Windows 7 in Sonar plat? Just wondering how you are doing with everything? I've heard some horror stories about updating and am using 8.3 at the moment. I have a few little issues here and there, most of which have always been there for UAD.
 
You know, the sample rate message that comes every once in a while and one of the new ones I've been seeing is "one or more UAD plugins have been shut down. If the problem persists, contact UAD support. Shut your machine completely off and reboot." Something to that effect. My other two main issues are, sometimes the GUI does not move in real time. Like, meters are frozen yet if you switch the plug off and on, it IS working. Clicking X and reopening inside the FX bin shows the plug has updated since I've seen it last, but the meters are frozen. This fixes itself eventually.
 
The other issue I get is presets are really weird in how they act. Example, some UAD 2 plugs like Ocean Way....open a preset, tweak it in a Sonar project, save the project, reopen, and the plug has reverted back to one of the presets that is NOT the way I left it. I've been crying about this for quite a while now, but it is what it is. UAD doesn't test on Sonar, and the few times I've reached out to the Bakers for help on this, they haven't been able to help. Then I read something about plug load balancing and UAD plugs or something and I don't know what to do. LOL!
 
Not really crying for help here as I have accepted either: (unless someone knows the answers to some of these above)
 
a) UAD has flaws that can't be fixed
b) compatibility issues on my system
c) issues within Sonar
d) all of the above
 
I'm more interested in how you guys on Windows 7 and Sonar plat are doing with the UAD stuff. Thanks in advance.
 
-Danny

I have been using UAD v9 in Windows 7 64 bit and the latest version of SPLAT without any issues.  I do not use the plugin load balancing feature because it seems to mess with my BFD3 but as far as I know the UAD plugins do not make use of it anyway.  Be careful if you demo the API 2500...man it's good :)  that and the Zener Limiter are awesome!

THambrecht
Maybe the problem is windows 7 itself.
I'm working with UAD and Windows 10 and currently I see no problems with the newest UAD updates. I never used UAD with Windows 7 or 8.
Applying effects (VST-plugins to an audiotrack) ist almost twice as fast with "load balancing = on". But I have not tested if UAD-plugins are also faster. I would have to test that.


 

Nah, I do not believe it's Windows 7. It has worked flawlessly for me on 7 in the past. It's either a Sonar update or a UAD update. UAD doesn't test in house anymore using Sonar, so we're pretty left in the cold unless someone from the Bakery can work their magic.
 

btsabq
I have been using UAD v9 in Windows 7 64 bit and the latest version of SPLAT without any issues.  I do not use the plugin load balancing feature because it seems to mess with my BFD3 but as far as I know the UAD plugins do not make use of it anyway.  Be careful if you demo the API 2500...man it's good :)  that and the Zener Limiter are awesome!

That's what I was looking for, thank you! I already have the API in Waves....it's my favorite compressor of all time. :)
 

PhilW
"Something to that effect. My other two main issues are, sometimes the GUI does not move in real time. Like, meters are frozen yet if you switch the plug off and on, it IS working".
 
I've reported the exact same problem here in the forums:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/UAD-Plugin-UI-Stops-Showing-Status-m3364796.aspx#3365917
 
and a few other people reported the same problem. The good news is that I haven't seen it lately, since UAD 8.7 and Sonar Plat September update so maybe it's corrected somewhere.
 
I'm currently on UAD 9.0, PCIe card, Windows 10, and no issues with Sonar October 2016.

Yeah I've reported a few things also. Glad the issue isn't happening for you. Maybe they fixed something in the new version. I'll give it a try...thanks for the replies, guys.
 
If any other Win 7 users have any info, I'd love to hear what you've experienced. :)
 
-Danny

Tom B
<snip>
 
The biggest UAD-SONAR problem I've seen in the recent past, SONAR occasionally crashed when deleting UAD plug-ins.  I may have been trying to delete during playback.  I still tend to 'save'  before deleting UAD plug-ins.
 

Me too, I get that crash occasionally, but UAD 8.7 and up + Sonar September 2016 seems to be more stable in this area. I haven't had the crash for a couple of months now.

Tom BThe biggest UAD-SONAR problem I've seen in the recent past, SONAR occasionally crashed when deleting UAD plug-ins.  I may have been trying to delete during playback.  I still tend to 'save'  before deleting UAD plug-ins.

I have had that, too, with UAD 9, Windows 10 64-bit and SPLAT. Not often, but a couple of times.
 
One weird and somewhat annoying thing I have had is with the Ocean Way Studios plugin: when re-opening a project, OWS seems to revert to the default setting (Remic, Studio A, drums) even though the drop-down menu window shows whatever I have chosen (and tweaked) last time. I had this an year or two ago, I think it disappeared with UAD and Sonar updates and now it seems to be back.

Mwah

Tom BThe biggest UAD-SONAR problem I've seen in the recent past, SONAR occasionally crashed when deleting UAD plug-ins.  I may have been trying to delete during playback.  I still tend to 'save'  before deleting UAD plug-ins.

I have had that, too, with UAD 9, Windows 10 64-bit and SPLAT. Not often, but a couple of times.
 
One weird and somewhat annoying thing I have had is with the Ocean Way Studios plugin: when re-opening a project, OWS seems to revert to the default setting (Remic, Studio A, drums) even though the drop-down menu window shows whatever I have chosen (and tweaked) last time. I had this an year or two ago, I think it disappeared with UAD and Sonar updates and now it seems to be back.

Finally someone that has the weird ocean way issue! I thought I was the only one! Hahaha! Unfortunately there are a few UAD 2 plugs that have done this. I don't remember which at the moment because I always save whatever state I'm in inside the plug menu each time. That is the only work around for this issue. It sucks so bad, especially if you forget to save the plug in state.

I've since switched to version 9 of UAD and will see how things go. Thanks for the replies everyone.

Oh well I spoke too soon about Sonar/UAD compatibility. I just deleted a UAD plugin and Sonar crashed. It threw up about a dozen UAC elevation dialogs (I thought there might be a loop) so Faultreporter.exe fired off that many times. The dump went to Cakewalk with my comments, maybe this one can get fixed because it is a longstanding issue.

I'm using current versions of Sonar, UAD, and Win10 (the later ain't exactly voluntary<G>!)...
 
I've run into two problems, neither is in any way new:

1. the dreaded crash while removing a UAD Plug-in... hasn't happened in quite a while now, and when it did it was pretty rare, but you know, once bitten, so I am really careful, maybe a good thing, maybe I shouldn't have  to be so careful?
2. the dreaded plug-in won't load bug, rarer than it used to be, but still happens. Again there is a work-around, but it is annoying.

My system includes a PCIe Quad and an Apollo Twin USB.

In speaking with UA Tech Support I'm told this problem is a timing problem, and I don't remember the details (I'll try to dig up the email) but it has something to do with the say UA  asks about resources and Sonar reports them. Their suspicion is that the same mechanism causes the crashes.

As far as support goes, it appears that the do test with Sonar, maybe on an as-needed basis, but they are familiar with Sonar. They don't, yet, support Sonar as an official platform, but I have been told, a couple of times, that it is in their roadmap. They don't say when, and it would be impolite to ask...

As a rule I upgrade UA the day I learn about the  new version, always anxious to try new plugins! This did cause problems once, some time ago, but their releases have been among the most  stable I use.

I also upgrade Sonar immediately these days, because the roll-back works so well there is no risk any more.

Other than that I usually wait for the second drop - I ignored this advice recently with NI Kontakt v5.6, and I really wish I'd have waited... oh well.

I was running Windows 7 up until sometime this summer - I upgraded to Windows 10 - on a spare drive - just to see what was what. I'm not blown away by Win10, but neither have I run into any show stoppers, so I never bothered to go back to Win7.

Last observation - ignoring the two bugs I mentioned the only risk to installing a newer version is that you might like one  of the new plugins<G>!

bapu
OK, this is weird.
 
I had the disabled message today about 10 times in a row.
 
Now this is probably unrelated, but it just so happens that after I got those messages I decided to do some maintenance. My iLok drivers needed updating. So I updated them and on a whim I opened the same project that my UAD plugs were disabled and now they are not.
 
WTH??!!??

Always something with these plugs! Unless we:

1. Get more popular to where they test on us
2. Sir Noel can work magic
3. We get a UAD guy on the inside

We're on our own, Ed! I once told their support guys that I would test on SONAR for them and I wanted nothing from them other than to help make UAD work right for us. They STILL turned me down. Lol!

Danny Danzi
Actually Craig, their tech support told me they do NOT test on SONAR at all. I spoke to two different tech support guys and they both said the same thing. I know you have connections and lots of inside information, but they are telling customers they aren't. 

It was not a support person who told me, it was someone connected with engineering. The reason for the dialog was because of the Pro Review I'm doing of the Apollo USB Twin on Harmony Central, and my telling them I'd be using SONAR as the main software for testing with the system. 
 
I suppose it also depends on your definition of "test" - whether you mean testing every permutation and combination, or a go/no go type of thing. That said...I'm using the latest UA software/SONAR/Windows and not having problems but I rarely do mass removals of plug-ins, either. 

wst3
In speaking with UA Tech Support I'm told this problem is a timing problem, and I don't remember the details (I'll try to dig up the email) but it has something to do with the say UA  asks about resources and Sonar reports them. Their suspicion is that the same mechanism causes the crashes.

Please do try and dig up that email. It might help to post it here in case Noel does check in here.

Worked in the DAW all day yesterday. Not one DISABLED message. 
 
Previously I did press submit for the UAD error report send whenever I got that message.