Ok, thank you for your replies. I should delete the 2nd part of my signature as I don't use that workstation anymore. I did not realize it did not say- I am on Windows 8, 64 bit. Thought- everyone would assume it, seeing 3770K, but it could be Win. 7.
 
It is Windows 8.
 
I like complicated systems. This is what I do- I work on supporting my system more than on making music. lol. It is a full time job.
 
I don't think there are too many issues. The only reason you would not have issues is if you not installing anything new.
 
As I stated earlier- when computer attempts to boot from USB device, it would not give me the Windows Logo, and it would not attempt to "Repair Windows". When it tries to boot from USB- it would remain Black screen with white text. But it gives me Windows logo, then loop, then it wants to repair itself. But I may have to take a look in to booting. How do I exclude USB devices from Boot menu? In BIOS it offers a list of drives and if I click on it, it starts booting from what ever I click on. There are some "Boot Overwrite" settings that have all kinds of configurations in them- I don't understand them. I have 5 Drives connected- 2 HDD, 2 SSD and 1 USB 3.0. 
 
Beepster, I always turn on all my USB and FireWire devices before I start Windows. They need to be on to be detected by Windows. Yes, I can leave Maschine unplugged, and plug when I use it, after Windows boot- this is what I do now. BUT: once I forgot to unplug it and it caused real havoc, as after it failed to load Windows and went trough restart loop, it kicked out all USB ports- Sonar would not recognize anything, till I restarted several times. I have over 10 USB devices connected, so I can not afford any instability. I want hardware work as it supposed to, no excuses. Everybody turning on before windows, but this one- after? If every my device would have personal conditions to turn on, I would never get to work. I cant remember what needs to go first and when. I finish my work at 3 am in the morning- I can't remember to unplug Maschine. I like to fix this problem and know why it doing it.

markyzno
*whispers*
 
This thread really does smell of "TOO MUCH TINKERING"

Okay, that's what I thought. Just a lot of big werds and fancy book lerner stuff going on and thought maybe it made sense to all the smart folks.
 
I'm all for being inquisitive and adventurous when it comes to system fiddling but you gotta a) do your research BEFORE beginning and b) have an escape route or multiple escape routes (*cough* system image *cough*). BIOS stuff? Well that is getting into dangerous territory but AFAIK newer and perhaps older BIOS utilities have reset functions so hopefully that can restored too... but IDK.
 
Vlad, you have learned quite a bit through all these adventures. If at all possible just go back and start over. It will make more sense the second time around and you'll probably find a large percentage of the tweaks you made were unnecessary. Start, create an image, test, create a restore point, tweak if need be, repeat. Keep track of your restore points and give them names that makes sense (and up the disc space available for restore points or you will the older ones as you go along... there is for some stupid reason no way to save restore points).
 
Once you find a set up that works for you create another image. That way if something goes wrong you can can go back to the very first image you made (just installed windows and updated all system drivers like USB, network, BIOS, video card, etc), second image you made (just installed basic function programs like a browser, AV, PDF reader for manuals, crap like that that is needed for basic functions), then a third with your most essential audio stuff installed (interface drivers, Sonar). Now you have clean slates to go to. THEN start adding your other device drivers and testing things out. Go nuts. Abuse the hell out of the system. Use restore points during these tests until you get things running smoothly with everything you will be using regularly and create a final image.
 
It may sound like a pain but by having all those images and making use of restore points as you fiddle around will pretty much guarantee that if you can't resist poking around the dark corners of your system you will always have an easy path back to safe territory.
 
You can use can use Windows recovery for all this (but not with XP or earlier) or get a program called Acronis True Image (which I think you have to pay for) or Macrium Reflect (which has a free version that is suitable for this type of thing and I've used successfully).
 
BIOS however is a tricky beast and AFAIK will not be affected by images so if you screw up your BIOS you have to take different methods to fix it. Also I think that Windows and the images/restore points you create will be effected by the BIOS so if you have a screwed up BIOS those images may be worthless... but I am not sure about that.
 
This perhaps seems preachy or redundant but the types of things you have been doing to your system can have dire consequences and it all seems to be spinning out of control for you. Not good. You should be making music.
 
Good luck.

ok, so here we've devolved into a blame the user thread...
i think we all know how we feel when sonar support does that to us.
jk (sorta)/js
 
anyway, vlada - you said
"As I stated earlier- when computer attempts to boot from USB device, it would not give me the Windows Logo, and it would not attempt to "Repair Windows". When it tries to boot from USB- it would remain Black screen with white text. But it gives me Windows logo, then loop, then it wants to repair itself. But I may have to take a look in to booting. How do I exclude USB devices from Boot menu? "
 
this reeks of the part about the uefi bios cms boot i was talking about.  i have usb sticks that i use to boot from for disk imaging and a usb recovery external drive, but i need to change my bios from uefi to cms boot to use either of them because uefi refuses to recognize them as bootable.  the problem is, if i try to boot to windows in cms mode i get some of the issues you describe.  this is a pain in the a$$ for real.  
 
and i kind of agree with that bob that maybe you should consider wiping your system at some point.  i know installing komplete takes forever, but i made backups of all the install files to a drive if i ever have to do it again - i would recommend that highly.
 
 

I'm not sure about system restore but you can most certainly include any extra drives on your system when creating a system image. Programs like Acronis and Macrium Reflect are supposedly more reliable for this purpose though so perhaps take a look at works best for your needs.
 
Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, creating an image is a much more lengthy process and requires more hard drive space to accomplish but is definitely worth it as images are more reliable and complete. You will however lose any new files so be sure to back up any new data before restoring from image then simply copy those files back as needed.
 
Again you probably know this but just making sure.
 
You may also want to consider giving StudioCat or ADK a call to get your system set up optimally for your hardware and needs. It'll probably be worth the money just get everything working and having a rock solid image to restore to. Then you can go crazy from there.
 
Trying to sort through piles of random advice from the internet is... well... daunting at best. It may all be correct but it may not all be the same as different people take different approaches and then you just end up with a jumbled, conflicting mess. One good tech + one clear path of execution = one working system that makes sense.

I would suggest that this thread has little to do with Sonar and more to do with tinkering.
 
Bob, you are  a wealth of knowledge on Sonar and this forum but I think any advice thus given on this thread could be a red herring.
 
Its counter Intuative for the OP with any more advice given here, I only hope Vlad can get issues sorted.
 
But, all of this is strictly off topic from Sonar.

Na- it's ok. It can not be resolved. It will go in to the loop with Maschine. I give up. I will take it with Native Instruments.
 
In Komplete thread I was asking how you freezing tracks and why you create Audio and not instrument tracks in Kontact, and to send me the name of that Youtube program, if you don't mind. Other than that- with help of all contributors, I came to conclusion that this issue is not going to get resolved. Thank you for great ideas.