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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 15:35:55
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bitflipper I actually prefer the older version (1.9.1) of SPAN, if you can find a copy of that. I use it far more often than the newer version (2.1). There's been an announcement of a new release of SPAN (from a KVR email newsletter that just arrived). One of the listed enhancements is new interface options (wasn't very specific so I have no information beyond that). I'll be interested to know if you think the latest version makes SPAN as usable as the 1.9.1 version.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 15:46:18
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This video is Live-centric, but describes how to configure SPAN using groups and multi-channel I/O: Check it out
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 16:18:08
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...wicked This video is Live-centric, but describes how to configure SPAN using groups and multi-channel I/O: Check it out Certainly using a multi-channel analyzer is useful - but, for me, it's quicker to stick my analyzer on the Master Bus and either use SOLOing or MUTEing. That makes it constant and with less setup. If I solo more than one track, I get the same result as having to view multiple channels. So that's just another approach for those who are like-minded.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 17:18:45
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I'll be interested to know if you think the latest version makes SPAN as usable as the 1.9.1 version. I hadn't bothered downloading it until today, since the stated changes did not include anything particularly exciting. This was the description from a Voxengo email: * Correlation meter values around -1 are now displayed correctly in the "density" mode. * Statistics "reset" function now resets statistics of all channels correctly. * K-metering modes now use fixed 600ms RMS and release time constants. * Additional visual look variation settings added. * Underlay color selection was removed - group's defined color is used now. * "Hide Meters and Stats" switch added. * Spectrum display is now more precise in high-frequency region. There's a nice new green color scheme to go with all your McDSP plugins. No, I don't have any, either.
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ba_midi
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 17:50:06
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While I make Visualizer my default analyzer on my Master Bus, I do like the new Span 2.2 as well. When I've done a mixdown, I throw it on that track just to get a last look, so to speak. But it does seem smoother and less CPU hungry as well, Dave.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/09/29 18:10:09
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ba_midi Certainly using a multi-channel analyzer is useful - but, for me, it's quicker to stick my analyzer on the Master Bus and either use SOLOing or MUTEing. For the record, that is exactly how I do it as well. I just happened to catch the vid and thought I'd add to the discussion. Actually, if you watch it, it's a pretty royal PITA to get it working just to have pretty separate analyzer curves. For me a quick A/B with the Solo button tells me right where my conflicts are without having to spend an hour routing it up.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 06:25:52
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Hey anyone know how to get the new Voxengo SPAN to 'hold' the waveform / frequency line? The old/ original SPAN let you set the line to be held at it's highest position along the frequency spectrum. So...how do you get it to hold in the new Span? thanks
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 08:05:20
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Toward the upper left is the hold switch.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 09:46:26
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Thanks John I'll check that out next I'm spanning something I see that HOLD button works differently...it holds at the moment you click it and gives a frequency reading at that time. Can it do like the original SPAN...where the frequency line is pushed up and up throughout the song and wherever it settles at it highest points along the spectrum is where it is 'held'...I don't think I have described it very well...anyway that HOLD button doesn't do what I want it to do
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 10:55:37
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montezuma Thanks John I'll check that out next I'm spanning something I see that HOLD button works differently...it holds at the moment you click it and gives a frequency reading at that time. Can it do like the original SPAN...where the frequency line is pushed up and up throughout the song and wherever it settles at it highest points along the spectrum is where it is 'held'...I don't think I have described it very well...anyway that HOLD button doesn't do what I want it to do I'm not at my DAW, but I think you mean to turn on the 2nd spectrum in the Span options. Then it draws a 2nd 'line' as you call it above the lower one and it either averages or peaks (part of the settings in the options).
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 18:11:48
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That's it yeah....is there a way you can get SPAN to hold that 2nd spectrum line as it does in the original Span? As I have it now it draws the line and holds it during the song but when the song stops the line disappears.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 18:37:55
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montezuma That's it yeah....is there a way you can get SPAN to hold that 2nd spectrum line as it does in the original Span? As I have it now it draws the line and holds it during the song but when the song stops the line disappears. I'm doing this from memory (I'm about to boot my DAW though). I seem to remember there were some things you could click on to do that - or at least to create a snapshot. Span comes with a manual ya know ;) I know some people seem to be against using them (for what reason I have NO clue) but they are useful.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 18:56:56
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My manual is broken....but thanks. Do you know if the old Span is ok in W7 64bit?
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 19:10:02
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montezuma My manual is broken....but thanks. Do you know if the old Span is ok in W7 64bit? I don't know. But I"m at my DAW now, so hang on a bit I'll see if I can find the answer for ya. Ah here - this should help: http://www.voxengo.com/fi...0User%20Guide%20en.pdf
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montezuma
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 19:15:00
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Righto....I just installed the original...I think I like that one. I had that new one on my old machine but never used it. But it'd be good to know how to make it work like the old one. Oh right...thanks. I looked for that manual on my pc but couldn't find it.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 19:18:52
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I just quickly went to voxengo.com and grabbed it for ya. They seem to put a lot of their manuals online. And I love manuals. They teach me lots ;) I do think the new one works the same - and the latest update seems to have improved on some things. I usually use Nugen's Visualizer on my master bus and float it on my 2nd monitor along with the Console View and Synth Rack. So it's right there always. But then I'll throw Span on mixdowns or specific tracks to take peeks when need be. Span is very good, for sure. And, as we know, free. And, oh right - you're welcome ;)
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 19:58:33
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...wicked This video is Live-centric, but describes how to configure SPAN using groups and multi-channel I/O: Check it out It turns out that I'm too impatient to watch a 13 minute video to get 30 seconds worth of information. So...I'm going to imagine that the guy did something like this... (Note that this makes use of SONAR's sidechain feature...) In broad brush... - Put an instance of SPAN2 in your master bus.
- Go to each track of interest and insert a send to one of the 3 stereo inputs that SPAN exposes.
- Go to the routing page in SPAN and enable the inputs C through H.
- You should be able to then select each of the inputs (one at a time) as an underlay along with the overall master analysis.
Yes, it's a bit of trouble to set up...but it works. I tried out BlueCat's tool a one point...which is interesting...and more flexible. But it kinda suffers from the same deal where the setup takes so long that you become uninterested in the punchline. On the other hand...this is an interesting case for the use of the newer SPAN incarnation. I too was of the opinion that the increased screen real estate requirement was a good argument for using the older tool...but that might change.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 20:11:04
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I'm gonna use the original Span anyway. I only want it to do one thing and it's too much of a gin around on the new one to make it do that one simple thing.
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 20:13:36
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montezuma I'm gonna use the original Span anyway. I only want it to do one thing and it's too much of a gin around on the new one to make it do that one simple thing. Well, frankly, Span 1 was terrific anyway. So yeah - go with what works for ya!
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 20:18:12
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True...and I know how to use it without having to read the manual!
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Re:Using analyzers
2010/10/06 20:32:24
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Re:Using analyzers
2012/09/21 13:31:13
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Lowline And indeed SPAN does have 4 input channels that you can choose as inserts. Presumably you should be able to display different channels by choosing group buttons or choosing a group to underlay. I say "presumably" as unfortunately I can't seem to get this to work and there doesn't seem to be any documentation about it. Does anyone know how to set up this function or does it not work? I was watching the YouTube video on setting up SPAN in Ableton, and trying to do the same thing in Sonar, but have not been able to get it to work, either ... has anyone else had success with this? It appears that Sonar recognizes SPAN's 4 input channels, but does not recognize SPAN's output channels, so you cannot route audio through SPAN using an audio channel with SPAN in the FX bin like they do in the video. I am able to use SPAN in a buss by soloing channels going to the buss, so I get that method, but in the interest of making things more difficult I wanted to try the routing via standard audio channels like they do in the Ableton video. Has anyone else been able to make this work, and if so, how? Thanks!
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