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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/04 09:10:54 (permalink)
I understand that Rack does not transmit MIDI Steve.

Here is what I have set up.
1. One Audio Track with VCV Bridge in the FX Bin
2. One Aux track fed by the Above Audio Track
3. One MIDI Track

When I try and select a destination for the MIDI track the only output option is my PreSonus MIDI Device.

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/04 17:51:11 (permalink)
Is is possible you are running the old VCV Bridge? MIDI was added in 0.6.1. The original Bridge was audio only.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/04 18:00:36 (permalink)
Doubtful I did update perhaps I will try another install of 0.6.1

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/04 18:04:10 (permalink)
If it scanned as an instrument it is 0.6.1. Do not change it to an effect. Also, do not use the FX Chain for port 1. Use the actual plug-in. The FX Chain interferes with MIDI for this plug-in. I use the FX Chain for port 2+ because the port setting is not persistent.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/05 16:57:39 (permalink)
Thanks again Steve,

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 10:37:43 (permalink)
Any changes to this Steve as there are now two versions of Bridge and Bridge FX.  I am still not seeing bridge as an option for MIDI output or Audio input.

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 13:30:50 (permalink)
I use the synth version. It works better in CbB for me.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 14:31:00 (permalink)
Thanks Steve I will give it a try.

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 14:33:19 (permalink)
Let me know how it goes.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 16:30:39 (permalink)
Um bit strange did a reset all and re-scan I now have two instances of VCV Bridge under VST FX no sign of it under VSTi's.

On checking in the registry the one call VCV-Bridge.dll the isSynth key set to 1 and the one called VCV-Bridge-FX.dll the isSynth key is set to 0.  As I would expect.  (S-Plat not tried CbB yet)

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/19 17:38:20 (permalink)
It is strange. I have one each in FX and Instruments in both Platinum and CbB. VCV-Bridge.dll is the synth dll. Check the VST properties tab on the plug-in and make sure it has "Configure as synth" checked.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/07/20 17:38:44 (permalink)
Thanks again for the help Steve

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/18 12:06:22 (permalink)
Ewwww, I can't get VCV rack to hear midi notes from cakewalk, the start works and not figured out a stop yet using the core midi-1, and I'm getting audio into cakewalk fine. The midi routing just doesn't seem to work, I can't play any notes from inside cakewalk, and have VCV play them.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/18 14:21:12 (permalink)
Try a logic module and "OR" start/stop from the Core MIDI-1 module to toggle running a patch.
 
I just tested MIDI out from CbB and it works here. I use the VCV Bridge instrument dll in the FX Rack then add a MIDI track with its output set to the VCV Bridge, drop a MIDI clip in the track, take the CV and Gate from Core MIDI-1 module and it plays OK. When using a controller instead of a MIDI clip make sure to enable input echo on the MIDI track.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/19 22:07:48 (permalink)
The Logic OR works a treat, thx, That's how I'm trying to do it, CV / Gate from Midi -1 and absolutely nothing. Tested the patch with a NoteSeq inside VCV, thats running as expected. very strange.

GODNAMIT, trying to share a screenshot but this forums not happy about that !


 

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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/19 22:34:31 (permalink)
The link https://www.deviantart.com/flyinghitcher/art/CakeVCV-764679636 is not an image. It is a link to the page hosting the image. To embed in image use the link to the image https://orig00.deviantart.net/0551/f/2018/262/2/c/cakevcv_by_flyinghitcher-dcn9ql0.png like this

I cannot tell if you are using the VCV Rack instrument dll in the FX Rack. The image shows the VCV Rack effects plug-in highlighted. I did not have good results using the FX, I use the VCV instrument plug-in in the FX rack.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:00:01 (permalink)
I drag'd it out of the VST instruments list 1st into a blank project, it's a bit unusual, as it doesn't provide it's own audio track inside the VCV Bridge 1 folder. Then, I created an audio track, and used the VCV Bridge from the Audio FX list and put that into the FX on the audio (Track 2).

Glad you can see the screenshot, hope that saves some time.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:14:35 (permalink)
Forget about the VCV FX plug-in and do not use the VCV instrument plug-in as a soft synth. Instead, in a new project:
  1. create an audio track
  2. insert or drag and drop the VCV Bridge instrument plug-in into the audio FX rack. DO NOT use the VCV bridge FX plug-in
  3. add a MIDI track with the output pointed to the VCV Bridge
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:19:43 (permalink)
Fantastic, sorted <3

Dropping a few midi notes where they overlap.  As long as I treat it with some care, it's consistent. I'm getting something at last from the midi, and still getting audio from VCV though cakewalk.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:26:03 (permalink)
Keep in mind Cakewalk records data from the input only. If you want to record the audio output of the VCV Bridge route the audio to an aux track and record the aux track.
 
BTW, your image shows overlapping MIDI notes. The MIDI-1 module is mono, you will have to use MIDI-4 or modllz MIDI Poly 16 for polyphonic MIDI input.
 
Also make sure you MIDI playback buffer is 500ms or higher.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:37:33 (permalink)
Ahh, ok, I see, and then MIDI-4 into a multiple, the playback buffer was at 250, changed it up to 500
 
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:43:09 (permalink)
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 MIDI-4 into a multiple

I doubt that will work unless you want the sum of the CV values. To play multiple notes at the same time use multiple sound generators (think one oscillator for each CV in MIDI-4) or special modules like the Gratrix modules which have 6 ins/outs for each module.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:48:26 (permalink)
No it didn't work very well, it totally crashed the sound output from VCV, with a restart required ^^
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:52:39 (permalink)
The MIDI buffer change fixes dropped MIDI notes on playback in CbB. This does not address polyphony in VCV. That will require handling each concurrent note separately in the patch.
 
Using the VCV bridge is not as stable as running VCV stand alone -save often.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 00:58:02 (permalink)
ok, yeah, I get what I was doing was dumb, just over excited to get something out of this and not putting the thought in, been a fan of VCV for a while, though with such fast updates, I've been holding off of it, as my patch's and instruments went obsolete before I was learning how to get a good use out of them. I'll set the midi buffer back if I notice anything in my other projects.
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Re: VCV Rack - Open-source virtual Eurorack DAW 2018/09/20 01:03:33 (permalink)
The MIDI buffer setting should be fine at 500. For many the default is too low and 500 was the default before X1. I doubt that change crashed VCV and will not negatively affect existing Cakewalk projects.
 
Getting VCV Rack into Cakewalk is pretty nice. It will be even nicer when/if Andrew follows up with his plan to release a proper VST version of VST Rack when v2 is released.
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