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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 08:40:20
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5200rpm drives?
You sure about that?
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 08:51:12
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Bristol_Jonesey
5200rpm drives?
You sure about that?
oops 2 x 1 TB 5400 rpm SATA
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 09:03:15
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Any reason you are running an internal sound card AND the Scarlette?
I would disable the internal, Windows will start sharing and hogging drivers all over the place otherwise....especially on Windows 8 I have noticed this is worse than in Win 7.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 09:04:47
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"5400 rpm" can also lead to issues but not in the manner you have described.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 09:12:27
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markyzno
Any reason you are running an internal sound card AND the Scarlette?
I would disable the internal, Windows will start sharing and hogging drivers all over the place otherwise....especially on Windows 8 I have noticed this is worse than in Win 7.
well when I don't have the scarlette plugged in I use the internal sound card - when I move the notebook to my study I plug in the scarlette and uncheck the internal sound card I then change from MME to ASIO and crash... I use notebook for other things as well as use it with sonar amongst other things. Is this not allowed? I guess if I setup a desktop then I wouldn't have so many problems, so I shouldn't use sonar on a notebook right? :) I get the notion u don't likey me all that much markyzno :(
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 11:13:05
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☄ Helpfulby JimmyBoy 2013/10/15 03:41:14
Have you tried Asio4All for your using with your internal sound card? http://www.asio4all.com/ Might help with both the MME and switching from MME to Asio. ...Steven
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 11:43:45
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JimmyBoy
markyzno
Any reason you are running an internal sound card AND the Scarlette?
I would disable the internal, Windows will start sharing and hogging drivers all over the place otherwise....especially on Windows 8 I have noticed this is worse than in Win 7.
well when I don't have the scarlette plugged in I use the internal sound card - when I move the notebook to my study I plug in the scarlette and uncheck the internal sound card I then change from MME to ASIO and crash... I use notebook for other things as well as use it with sonar amongst other things. Is this not allowed? I guess if I setup a desktop then I wouldn't have so many problems, so I shouldn't use sonar on a notebook right? :) I get the notion u don't likey me all that much markyzno :(
No room for disliking here old bean! Just trying to help..... I think we have found your issue and as the last poster suggested, try ASIO 4 ALL, that should cope with your multiple card setup woes. In my experience switching between multiple cards is asking for trouble...I myself use 2 cards but across PT10 and Sonar but NEVER at the same time (not possible, not that you are trying that of course)...Both my cards use ASIO (Delta 1010 and MOTU Audio Express) so I dont have woes between switching from MME and into ASIO. I would really consider ditching this onboard Sound Card in favour of the Scarlette which would be able to accommodate your Audio needs.? Anyways, deffo not a Sonar issue regardless. Hope ASIO 4 ALL helps you out!
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 11:52:53
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X3 been running for 4 days, rock solid. I had to increase my audio buffer size on my M-Audio Soundcard as advised by Celemony to run Melodyne, I bought the upgrade to Editor. I lifted the Audio buffer from 512 to 1024 samples. Everything is runni8ng as sweet as a nut!
Good luck!
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 13:40:21
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Martyn UK
X3 been running for 4 days, rock solid. I had to increase my audio buffer size on my M-Audio Soundcard as advised by Celemony to run Melodyne, I bought the upgrade to Editor. I lifted the Audio buffer from 512 to 1024 samples. Everything is runni8ng as sweet as a nut!
Good luck!
Same here on the stability front. I didn't have stability issues in X2a either, but X3b is as good if not slightly better since as others have described it feels "snappier"... even though that may not be strictly speaking "stability". But I don't really care either way about the semantics because it's working quite well for me.  I am curious though... are others increasing their buffer to accomodate Melodyne as Martyn UK noted? The only reason I ask is that I've never done that in S1 or now in SONAR X3, other than if the project itself requires it from a resource perspective.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/14 13:47:24
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Fabio Rubato
It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
Fabio, sounds like you are you running XP? Win 7 or 8 would probably fix some of your issues.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 00:15:12
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Fabio Rubato
It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
Re: still getting blue screens when working with wave files..Fabio are you mixing VST2 & VST3 Waves plug-ins in the same project? The Waves VST2 & VST3 Shells are incompatible and can not be running within the same project. It's been mentioned in other threads that its a known Waves issue that affects usage in ANY DAW.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 04:36:19
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TheSteven
Have you tried Asio4All for your using with your internal sound card?
http://www.asio4all.com/
Might help with both the MME and switching from MME to Asio.
...Steven
Thanks TheSteven, Kudos to you! This workaround seems to be working for me as I no longer need to re-configure the driver modes between MME and ASIO, I also seem to be able to use the internal sound card with very little (if any) latency, pops, crackles and garbage! I now plug in Samson graphite 49 K/B control surface, since everything seems to be stable for a change and configure it using mackie control in the control surfaces. The sliders and stuff work really well, however I found none of the midi sounds play, playing the keyboard I can see the meter bar is active but no sound coming out of sound card. So I use the help midi troubleshoot and follow the instructions and get it to work by inserting soft synth, although I can't choose the options "Simple Instrument track" and "First Synth Audio Output" together as pointed out in the list in step two, I can only choose one or the other, (I suspect this is an error in the documentation or it could be a logic problem with the interface): ie: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X3&Lang=EN&Req=Troubleshooting.07.html
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 05:05:11
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Stable as hell here, but I had no issue´s with X2a either. So take my statement as of a fanboy. Pragi
post edited by Pragi - 2013/10/15 05:27:12
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 16:04:06
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Hi Markynzo,
I've just seen that you have both Sonar and Pro Tools. On the stability point with windows 7 wich is the best?
Thanks!
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 16:14:44
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However, I agree with the comments about X3 being "snappier" and "smoother." I believe what happened is someone at Cakewalk took SONAR apart, sprayed it with WD-40, then put it back together again.
Meanwhile I haven't yet had a crash or freeze. I would have expected at least some "new update" hiccups or something. Very encouraging.
Close, but I used DoxIT Gold spray. I've found that spray works like magic :-)
I think you meant DeoxIT...I didn't know that they made a digital (soft) version??? Probably straight out of MIT to you guys at CW...
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 16:45:50
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aixmusique
Hi Markynzo,
I've just seen that you have both Sonar and Pro Tools. On the stability point with windows 7 wich is the best?
Thanks!
PT ISNT supported on Win 8 (which is what I use, NOT WIN 7) But Once I got past the DAE errors of installation I have found PT to be stable. Sonar IS Win 8 supported and its amazing. The ONLY reason I use PT is because the film industry dictates so in terms of how to cross channel projects from lets say a Video Editor to a Sound Guy, but then export it in a way that "the industry" has deemed fit. If I had my way, we'd get rid of PT ENTIRELY and use Sonar.....Its a WAY better creative tool. But, to answer your question, PT is a RIGHT SO AND SO to install and Sonar isnt, but if you want to use them side by side then it can be done. I hope that X3c addresses a few of these Video/PT issues and I'm sure it will. I professionally work in film and use Sonar 95% and PT a very reluctant 5%.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 18:35:07
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markyzno
aixmusique
Hi Markynzo,
I've just seen that you have both Sonar and Pro Tools. On the stability point with windows 7 wich is the best?
Thanks!
The ONLY reason I use PT is because the film industry dictates so in terms of how to cross channel projects from lets say a Video Editor to a Sound Guy, but then export it in a way that "the industry" has deemed fit.
If I had my way, we'd get rid of PT ENTIRELY and use Sonar.....Its a WAY better creative tool.
Same here, I've given PT an honest shot as a creative DAW many times, but quite frankly, it sucks. It only gets fired up for project delivery to the editors.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 20:12:09
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Fabio Rubato
It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
It's been repeated time and time again that an application, such as Sonar, cannot cause a blue screen directly. A bad device driver or bad hardware can, but an app can't. Simple as that. I don't know why the message isn't sinking in. Every time Sonar gets blamed for a BSOD, I roll my eyes.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/15 23:48:56
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Silicon Audio
Fabio Rubato
It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
It's been repeated time and time again that an application, such as Sonar, cannot cause a blue screen directly.
A bad device driver or bad hardware can, but an app can't. Simple as that. I don't know why the message isn't sinking in.
Every time Sonar gets blamed for a BSOD, I roll my eyes.
I know LOL! It's the same people that chronically claim Sonar is full of bugs....when it's actually a system issue. Even way back to Sonar 3, I can't recall a BSOD caused directly by Sonar.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 00:20:18
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Mixing Waves VST2 & VST3 issues: Cakewalk Knowledgebase
Mixing Waves VST2 and VST3 Plugins Not SupportedThe information in this article applies to:
- SONAR X3 Producer
- SONAR X3 Studio
- SONAR X3
Running both VST2 and VST3 versions of Waves plug-ins in the same SONAR session is currently not supported by Waves. Mixing and matching VST2 and VST3 plugins will likely result in the plugins crashing or the UI not drawing.
A mix of VST2 and VST3 Waves plugins can happen under the following scenarios:
- You have "Replace VST2 Plugins when opening projects" (under Edit > Preferences > File - VST Settings) turned off, open a project containing VST2 versions of Waves plugins and later add a VST3 Waves plugin
- You have "Hide Related VST2 Plugins" disabled (under Edit > Preferences > File - VST Settings) and open both VST2 and VST3 plugins
Note that this limitation applies to all projects that are open in SONAR not just mixing and matching in the same project. Additionally if you are experiencing Waves plugin parameters being lost, make sure you have the SONAR X3b update installed.
from http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013327
This page last updated: 10/9/2013
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 03:05:32
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X3 for me is rock solid. X2 was a little flakey at first with a bug browsing audio files in the browser, but that was fixed in X2a. X1 was also rock solid for me.
Although I've never had much problem with drop outs I can't even provoke one now, and that's running my interface (ZED-R16) with as low latency as it'll go but A&H have updated their driver which I suspect is also partially the reason for that.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 05:01:02
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Generally X2a has been pretty stable for me. I've had the oddball event and experienced some of the more common things like having a crash when adjusting a bus a floating console view on a second monitor. Other than that I don't have any other "this will cause a crash" situations.
I bought the update this morning, went to work and mixed in X2a for about 4 hours and decided I would install X3 on my break and see how it would work in some tracking sessions I would be working on later this evening. I'm generally not into trying a new version in those circumstances. I had X1 unused for two months before I got through the backlog of projects started in 8.53. I opened the project in X3b with no funny business. It played and sounded like I expected. The projects are 96k with 13-14 drum mics, DI and mic'd bass and about 5-6 guitar parts that are always playing in some combination. The tracks aren't mixed but they all have some eq, compression and the odd effect here and there. It was super smooth tonight and generally a transparent experience as far as noticing any negatives. The new comping is so much more fantastic that I couldn't believe it has been done any other way. OMG, so good.
I haven't had a chance to open any older, more complex projects but I'll try it out soon enough. I love the new quad eq or whatever it's called. The larger graph and analyser seems so helpful that it almost made me suspicious for some reason. The one track where I used the tape emulation on the drum mix sounded much more punchy and crunchy in a good way than the second track we had up that I didn't have as much time to work with.
With X2a I really liked the console emulations over most of the other updates to the application but with X3 I'm digging the editing functionality and general performance more so than anything else at the moment. I'd say jump on it.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 05:21:29
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It is perfectly feasable to set your on-board sound as the default windows device and keep your pro device (the Scarlett) for Sonar. Simply de-select the onboard sound device within Sonar preferences.
Use tha ASIO drivers that came with the Scarlett, do not use Asio for All, IMHO its a disaster waiting to happen, especially if you already have decent Asio drivers.
Cheers,
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 06:11:23
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☄ Helpfulby JimmyBoy 2013/10/16 07:28:51
joakes
It is perfectly feasable to set your on-board sound as the default windows device and keep your pro device (the Scarlett) for Sonar. Simply de-select the onboard sound device within Sonar preferences.
Use tha ASIO drivers that came with the Scarlett, do not use Asio for All, IMHO its a disaster waiting to happen, especially if you already have decent Asio drivers.
Cheers,
Jerry
Woah - you've entirely missed the point of using ASIO4ALL. You don't use ASIO4ALL to replace the ASIO drivers for Scarlett (or any other professional interface) you use it so that you have an Asio hook up to the WDM audio system on your laptop (or possibly desktop). I've got an older dual-core HP Pavilion laptop and without ASIO4ALL I can't use that laptop's built-in Audio with Sonar or any other DAW- and there are times when that's exactly what I need to do. Using ASIO4ALL I can work with audio projects using my laptop while on a plane, at lunch in a restaurant, or any number of other circumstances where dragging along another piece of gear would be impractical or too cumbersome.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 07:03:06
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JimmyBoy
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 07:40:09
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TheSteven
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It is perfectly feasable to set your on-board sound as the default windows device and keep your pro device (the Scarlett) for Sonar. Simply de-select the onboard sound device within Sonar preferences.
Use tha ASIO drivers that came with the Scarlett, do not use Asio for All, IMHO its a disaster waiting to happen, especially if you already have decent Asio drivers.
Cheers,
Jerry
Woah - you've entirely missed the point of using ASIO4ALL.
You don't use ASIO4ALL to replace the ASIO drivers for Scarlett (or any other professional interface) you use it so that you have an Asio hook up to the WDM audio system on your laptop (or possibly desktop).
I've got an older dual-core HP Pavilion laptop and without ASIO4ALL I can't use that laptop's built-in Audio with Sonar or any other DAW- and there are times when that's exactly what I need to do. Using ASIO4ALL I can work with audio projects using my laptop while on a plane, at lunch in a restaurant, or any number of other circumstances where dragging along another piece of gear would be impractical or too cumbersome.
ASIO4ALL is working so well for me I've packed the scarlette away and using the notebook internal sound card... so much more simpler to use now. I'm finally getting down to enjoying using sonar now. cheers Jim
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/16 08:08:01
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X1 Rock solid / optimsed
X2 not rock solid / less optimsed (i passed)
X3 Solid (not as X1) / not optimsed ..
This is the way i feel it ....X3 engine is never near X1
Features wise X3 is almost near what we draemt on (expet stuff weird here and there , and options they took off , i don't know why , that were here in X1 !!)
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Fabio Rubato
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/17 05:09:41
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It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
Fabio, sounds like you are you running XP? Win 7 or 8 would probably fix some of your issues.
Hey, JS...I'm running Win7 64bit - need to do my signature.
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2013/10/17 05:21:29
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Fabio Rubato
It's fairly stable for me, although still getting blue screens when working with wave files...the more I work it, the higher probability it's going to happen. If I close and then load another project, it's usually not long before a problem occurs. I've since uninstalled and then re-installed in safe mode and am currently testing.
Other than that, it's good. My Alchemy plug-in however asks me to locate its data every time I run a scan, which I do once on start-up. I'm not sure whether I need to do a scan every time though.
Re: still getting blue screens when working with wave files..
Fabio are you mixing VST2 & VST3 Waves plug-ins in the same project?
The Waves VST2 & VST3 Shells are incompatible and can not be running within the same project.
It's been mentioned in other threads that its a known Waves issue that affects usage in ANY DAW.
Hi TheSteven. Yeah, I've seen this...initially a little confused as I've been aware of VST3 with Melodyne - have Ozone as well, but didn't know it was VST3. With X3, I can now run them as such... It would seem from the above post that I can apparently mix VST2/3 if I do the following: A mix of VST2 and VST3 Waves plugins can happen under the following scenarios: - You have "Replace VST2 Plugins when opening projects" (under Edit > Preferences > File - VST Settings) turned off, open a project containing VST2 versions of Waves plugins and later add a VST3 Waves plugin
- You have "Hide Related VST2 Plugins" disabled (under Edit > Preferences > File - VST Settings) and open both VST2 and VST3 plugins
This would seem to suggest that as long as I have the 'hide related vst2 plugins' disabled, I am able to open both without it being a problem? So do I have the first one - replace vst2 plugins... - turned off, along with the second one - hide... - disabled? Irrespective, I've been getting these blue-screens for many years now...from Sonar 8 through to X3. I think it's my Creative drivers - for my Elite Pro. I've ordered a Roland Quad-Capture and see if my theory is correct. The Elite Pro's been the common denominator in all versions.
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Re: WHAT ABOUT X3'S PRODUCER'S STABILITY?
2013/10/17 06:14:42
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Very solid. Just don't bring in any old X2 projects or you might feel different.
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