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Waves plug ins...
Hi. I wanted to revisit the topic of whether or not Waves plug ins can in some way get into Sonar Professional; or is it a mute ( pun) point to keep pursuing this! I have tried several things. Maybe missing some gem of a method or just not doing something right.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 18:08:49
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? Do they not work for you in Sonar? I use waves plugins all the time...
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 18:13:12
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To ascertain you have a working license, the best way is to transfer it your PC or dedicated thumb drive. Makes sense, since they have so many effects.
Rescan your VST Plug-ins.
I occasionally get some disappearing or unregistered themselves alas a rescan usually fixes this.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 18:57:07
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I use Waves plugins on the majority of my mixes without any problems. As suggested above, I activate the licenses directly to my workstation (using Waves Central) then open Sonar Platinum and perform a VST rescan. So far this method has been successful for both processors and virtual instruments.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:15:57
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They don't show up after scan attempts. I see that you guys have Platinum which apparently has no problem wih Waves. Somewhere along the way I had a Waves tech person ( i can't find his email) claims that Professional does not support Waves.....some other users said they do. Argggg. I am about to retry all steps but wanted to see other users feedback . Thanks
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Re: Waves plug ins...
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They don't show up after scan attempts. I see that you guys have Platinum which apparently has no problem wih Waves. Somewhere along the way I had a Waves tech person ( i can't find his email) claims that Professional does not support Waves.....some other users said they do. Argggg. I am about to retry all steps but wanted to see other users feedback . Thanks
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:26:32
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Re: Waves plug ins...
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:29:54
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I originally downloaded them for a previous version of Sonar, so I guess since upgrading to Professional I screwed myself out of access to them ....! I know, Waves and Cakewalk have conspired to get more Platinum customers!!
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:29:55
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silvercn
They don't show up after scan attempts. I see that you guys have Platinum which apparently has no problem wih Waves. Somewhere along the way I had a Waves tech person ( i can't find his email) claims that Professional does not support Waves.....some other users said they do. Argggg. I am about to retry all steps but wanted to see other users feedback . Thanks
I've got no problems with Waves in SPlat, though I can't speak for Professional; I do remember a while ago that I had an issue with Waves in SPlat, but the Waves techie straightened me out pretty quickly (the issue had to do with my placement of the files, but I don't remember the specifics). I'd keep at the Waves techies. I might ask Cakewalk tech if Waves are supported in Professional, but I've never heard otherwise regarding the support of Waves. But (if one wants an opinion on this and, mind you, it is only an opinion), with the slightly peculiar and somewhat proprietary way that Waves handles plug-ins, I'd say the lion's share of the issue is on them to help you understand what's happening.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:46:09
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silvercn
I may have just answered my own question. Here is a link of all the supported hosts / DAWs for Waves. Sonar is Platinum only according to this
http://www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts
You can go back in the version history - while they might only be testing and officially supporting the flagship. I'd imagine there is zero reason they would not work in Professional which is basically the same code with fewer features. No first hand experience though, as I run SPLAT.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 19:46:59
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Being a Waves hinges, one has to wonder why the hell are they making plug ins not available to so many users of Professional.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 20:16:57
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silvercn
Being a Waves hinges, one has to wonder why the hell are they making plug ins not available to so many users of Professional.
I'd contact Waves support again. They can't test every version of every DAW, but there should be nothing fundamentally different from Professional and Platinum from their perspective. Just say "I'm working on the most updated version of Sonar"
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 20:23:25
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MY thoughts exactly ---- I am getting with them soon since this is kind of lame -thanks all. !
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 20:32:10
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I cannot think of any reason why they would not work in Professional. If you can use other third-party VST plugins, then Waves should work as well. In general, these are the most likely reasons they are not showing up:
1) They have been installed to a path that Sonar does not know about. Check to see where they are and make sure that path is listed in Sonar's VST scanner.
2) They have not been activated. Use Waves Central to activate your license.
3) The Waves installer failed with an error you didn't catch.
This last one caught me out early on when Waves Central first came out. There is a troubleshooting page at Waves website that will walk you through resetting a PC so you can install Waves products cleanly.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 21:41:58
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silvercn
Hi. I wanted to revisit the topic of whether or not Waves plug ins can in some way get into Sonar Professional; or is it a mute ( pun) point to keep pursuing this! I have tried several things. Maybe missing some gem of a method or just not doing something right.
Charles
I have Professional and use Waves all the time no problem. Make sure your .dll files are in a folder that's being scanned. If not, you can add the folder to the ones The plugin manager scans.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 21:52:00
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Go into Waves Central and check whether the license is on your machine or still in the Waves cloud.
This caught me out initially with some Waves plugs.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/15 22:16:54
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What I would do and have :)
First put all your wave licenses up on your Account cloud. Fully uninstall the waves command center to remove Wave plug. Reboot your system, then make sure that you have the newest Wave Command center installed and reinstall. You may have not installed the 64 bit versions or some other relevant options.
Then put all your licenses on your system and then install the plugins. The last command update seems to need access to the licenses before it will properly install "to access" the plugins.
In Sonar hit scan or rescan failed VSTs.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 01:30:02
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I just purchased CLA Vocals from Waves. I installed it with no problem. When I click on "insert audio fx" it's listed right there under the Vocal category. Or if you list your products by manufacturer, it will show up under Waves.
The most difficult part was authorizing it with my iLok, and even that wasn't terribly difficult...just a few steps.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 20:28:09
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I am waiting for a response from Waves. In mean time I downloaded the newest version of the Waves Central, deleted existing plug ins and re- installed them all ( they are all licensed) .,so for what it's worth again, and as before when I do a new VST scan, it stops every time on one of the Waveshell file and a notice pops up that a license for that can't be found. Well I don't see in the Central page that Waveshell is an entity that needs a license!! Is it not just a holding folder of some kind for the plug ins.......he'll this stinks!!!
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Re: Waves plug ins...
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I am waiting for a response from Waves. In mean time I downloaded the newest version of the Waves Central, deleted existing plug ins and re- installed them all ( they are all licensed) .,so for what it's worth again, and as before when I do a new VST scan, it stops every time on one of the Waveshell file and a notice pops up that a license for that can't be found. Well I don't see in the Central page that Waveshell is an entity that needs a license!! Is it not just a holding folder of some kind for the plug ins.......he'll this stinks!!!
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 20:41:15
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Where does Waves Central think the licenses are?
I've used Waves plugins for ages without any problems on WIndows or Macs, but some systems using either OS seem have issues with licensing. If the licenses are supposed to by on your PC try sending them back to the license cloud and then transferring them back to the PC again. That sometimes seems to do the trick, though it seems it can take a few tries.
Another possibility is to try using their offline installer and see if that sorts things out.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 21:14:35
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You shouldn't have to wait long, Waves always get back to its customers very quickly.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 21:31:00
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It's weird, ever since I installed CLA Vocals from Waves, whenever I start SPlat now, the little blue box opens and quickly runs a plugin scan, but pauses for a second on "waves shell", then continues on. The whole process takes about 5 seconds. And I have other waves plugins previously installed, but now it pauses on waves shell.dll
It's not a problem, just thought I'd mention it, in the far remote possibility it means something to anyone. :)
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 22:37:00
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Leee
It's weird, ever since I installed CLA Vocals from Waves, whenever I start SPlat now, the little blue box opens and quickly runs a plugin scan, but pauses for a second on "waves shell", then continues on. The whole process takes about 5 seconds. And I have other waves plugins previously installed, but now it pauses on waves shell.dll
It's not a problem, just thought I'd mention it, in the far remote possibility it means something to anyone. :)
Lee you can set the Scanner to manual that way it wont run that scan every single time (Preferences/VST settings). mine is set to manual and any time I install new plug ins I simply hit scan. I find it less of a hassle running that scanner every single time when in fact you don't need to. Hope that helps man.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 22:48:52
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Leee
I just purchased CLA Vocals from Waves. I installed it with no problem. When I click on "insert audio fx" it's listed right there under the Vocal category. Or if you list your products by manufacturer, it will show up under Waves.
The most difficult part was authorizing it with my iLok, and even that wasn't terribly difficult...just a few steps.
Waves don't use iLok. You put your licences on a USB stick but whatever you do, don't put them on your iLok. You could end up up corrupting all your ultimate k licences.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 22:53:31
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If you're reinstalling make sure to delete the %appdata%\Roaming\Waves Audio. This morning the plugin cache that can become corrupted and cause problems. It's not deleted when you uninstall the plugins.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 23:02:44
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C:\Users\Your user name\appdata\Roaming\Waves audio
In the previous post %appdata%, can be replaced by C:\Users\Your user name. Bear in mind that the app data folder is a hidden system folder by default so you would need to i hide it using folder properties, or simply press Windows key in win 10 and type %appdata% then just follow the remainder of the directions to Roaming\and delete Waves audio folder. Don't do this till you've uninstalled Waves Licence Centre.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 23:29:01
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Leee
I just purchased CLA Vocals from Waves. I installed it with no problem. When I click on "insert audio fx" it's listed right there under the Vocal category. Or if you list your products by manufacturer, it will show up under Waves.
The most difficult part was authorizing it with my iLok, and even that wasn't terribly difficult...just a few steps.
Waves don't use iLok. You put your licences on a USB stick but whatever you do, don't put them on your iLok. You could end up up corrupting all your ultimate k licences.
Yes, I actually switched the license from iLok to my hard drive. It gave me the option to do that, as well as the initial option to choose an iLok license or a license stored locally on my computer.
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Re: Waves plug ins...
2017/08/16 23:38:04
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Leee
It's weird, ever since I installed CLA Vocals from Waves, whenever I start SPlat now, the little blue box opens and quickly runs a plugin scan, but pauses for a second on "waves shell", then continues on. The whole process takes about 5 seconds. And I have other waves plugins previously installed, but now it pauses on waves shell.dll
It's not a problem, just thought I'd mention it, in the far remote possibility it means something to anyone. :)
Lee you can set the Scanner to manual that way it wont run that scan every single time (Preferences/VST settings).
mine is set to manual and any time I install new plug ins I simply hit scan.
I find it less of a hassle running that scanner every single time when in fact you don't need to.
Hope that helps man.
This is not a normal VST scan that I'm seeing in that blue box. It does NOT quickly run through (and display) all the plugins as a normal VST scan does. The blue box which is labelled "VST Scan" appears for less than 5 seconds when I start up SPlat. But as I said, the only plugin that flashed by (in text), was the Waves Shell plugin. And then quickly finished, gave me a list of the number of total plugins, with 0 added, and 0 removed. Which is why it's confusing to me why it lists that Waves plugin every time I start SPlat. Anyway, I just switched the scanner to manual, and now the blue VST Scan box does not show up at all, and SPlat starts about 5 seconds quicker. So thanks for the tip!
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