Rain

mike_mccue



"How do idea get passed along? By making them trendy. And Lennon and his wife were geniuses at marketing slogans."

Yes, both of them were clever enough to realize that pop culture and media such as music and television was just as effective for sharing ideas as any other social "network" or more traditional culture.

They didn't come up with that idea. They just used it effectively.

I think it may be helpful to appreciate that a person like Mr. Lennon and his peers lived through the very time when information and media distribution went from being provincial to universal.

How many other entertainers have made as good a use of popular culture?

I'm not to distracted by hero worship... I'm not in to it either, but that's a criticism best directed at the worshipers and not the "hero".

I happen to think that Mr Lennon was indeed a prophetic voice for a significant portion of the populace.

all the best,
mike

That's an interpretation I can agree w/ - that he was seen as such. And timing helped, and no matter the motivations, some good came out of it. 

But seeing him as a "prophet" of some sort eludes me. The beatniks had planted all the seeds of the American counterculture before The Beatles even started playing music together. Kerouac, Ginsberg and their friends had spelled out the whole thing before the Beatles landed in America. And of course, they themselves were distilling what H. Miller, LF Celine and their contemporaries had themselves distilled from the existentialists who themselves were...

He was heard, that's the difference I guess. But it was all there - which is why I can't look at him a a prophet - a ferociously efficient pamphleteer, yes.
But as you say, the problem isn't w/ Lennon, but w/ the followers. And that's why I insisted on the fact that I do respect the man.

Rain

bapu

I'll definitely try I'm A Loser

Common, you get by, w/ a little help from your friends. No?

Jonbouy

57Gregy


Before this thread gets locked for discussing religion and politics, I'd like to say I like the song.
Was that an accordion, harmonium or mellotron in it? Or some other instrument?

Me thinks.

A Mannborg or Mustel one I think if that makes any difference.

Guitarhacker


Lennon obviously was a brilliant songwriter and artist....personally one of my favorite writers from that time, and so influential in how he affected the entire music world as we know it....

However, having said that,  he was also like so many other artists who operate under the false impression that because they are brilliant in the area of music, they assume that also means they are brilliant in other areas of thought, and for the most part, that is wrong.  They should concentrate on the music, which they do well, and forget about making idiotic comments on religion, politics and other subjects they know little to nothing about. 

bapu

Guitarhacker


Lennon obviously was a brilliant songwriter and artist....personally one of my favorite writers from that time, and so influential in how he affected the entire music world as we know it....

However, having said that,  he was also like so many other artists who operate under the false impression that because they are brilliant in the area of music, they assume that also means they are brilliant in other areas of thought, and for the most part, that is wrong.  They should concentrate on the music, which they do well, and forget about making idiotic comments on religion, politics and other subjects they know little to nothing about. 

But we non-pro musicians are allowed to spout off about anything we want (whilst knowing very little about it), roight?

mike_mccue


I'm on YouTube, hear me roar.

craigb

Rain


I hate stinky Hip-peas!

mike_mccue

bapu

craigb

Is that ALL we are really saying?

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