What audio interface would you recommend?

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2014/06/09 01:52:16 (permalink)

What audio interface would you recommend?

 
What interface would you recommend for a PC used to create music with a MIDI
Strat, microphone, etc.?  I'd make one man recordings so I don't need many in/out
connections.  I'd pay more if I had to, but is there something very good for 400+
dollars?  I also play games on my PC--would it be good for that or should there be
a 2nd audio device for that?
 
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  The audio device should have:
  MIDI in/out for MIDI Strat, etc.
  XLR 3 pin balanced inputs for microphone
  Phantom power for mike
  XLR 3 pin or 1/4" balanced outputs for inputs of Event TR5 speakers
    Speaker inputs:
    http://www.soundonsound.c...3/articles/eventtr.htm
  Headphone amp (supposedly makes AKG K271 MKII headphones sound better)
  (Again, should I get a 2nd audio device for games?)
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    tomixornot
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 02:26:48 (permalink)
    I get good performance from the Roland Quad Capture. It has midi in/out, 2 mic inputs and another 2 ins via SPDIF and is more than sufficient for me doing music arrangement - I'm eyeing on the Studio Capture for future upgrade.
     
    I'm sure there are many other recommendations for this price range.

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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 04:11:36 (permalink)
    Roland Quad Capture or Steinberg UR44?  (I can use either for my general PC audio and gaming?)?
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 04:59:22 (permalink)
    Sure, the audio interface can be setup as your full time sound card via Windows sound control panel and your games will continue to work as usual.
     


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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 09:06:31 (permalink)
    Hi Glenster,
     
    I also have gaming DAW and just recently got the Focusrite 2i4. I'm extrememly happy with this unit as it's been rock solid without any hiccups whatsoever. The driver support for this is top notch and I believe it has all your input needs. I use it for gaming as well (on Steam I'm Meshodman:)).
     
    http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-2i4

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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 15:01:33 (permalink)
    I have a Strat with a Roland GK-3 pickup and a Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface.
    The latest driver for the GI-20 is for 7 64 bit and I planned to get Windows 9
    64 bit.  What's the least expensive remedy if the 7 64 bit driver doesn't work
    for 9 64 bit?
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 15:20:23 (permalink)
    glenster
    I have a Strat with a Roland GK-3 pickup and a Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface.
    The latest driver for the GI-20 is for 7 64 bit and I planned to get Windows 9
    64 bit.  What's the least expensive remedy if the 7 64 bit driver doesn't work
    for 9 64 bit?


    You're planning for Windows 9 (an OS that Microsoft hasn't come out with yet)? If so, then I suppose Roland will have to update their drivers for all their hardware and you'll have to wait until that's done. I would "guess" that if it works well with Win7 & Win8 x64, it should work fine with Win 9.......but, that's in the future and a lot of unknowns.  

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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 17:32:50 (permalink)
    It's been discontinued and the last driver they made for it was for 7 64 bit.
    I'd like a way to salvage it, to use the Strat with MIDI, other than staying with
    7 64 bit.  The most I've seen so far is this:
      http://www.stickist.com/v..opic.php?f=4&t=6687
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/09 20:48:38 (permalink)
    You can bypass the Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface usb/midi and use it's 5-pin midi connector to plug into the new audio interface midi in.

    Albert


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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/10 09:25:21 (permalink)
    Check out the RME BabyFace. Costs a bit more but compare the specs and RME has always been first with new and updated drivers.

    Purrrfect Audio DAW here.  Wow!...
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/10 17:54:05 (permalink)
      "You can bypass the Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface usb/midi and use it's 5-pin
    midi connector to plug into the new audio interface midi in."
     
      Are you sure that works for the Quad Capture? I've read in old posts (pre-Quad
    Capture) that won't work:
      http://forum.cakewalk.com/Using-Roland-GK2a-or-GK3-m200845.aspx
     
      I'd like the least expensive good solution.
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/10 20:08:05 (permalink)
    glenster
      "You can bypass the Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface usb/midi and use it's 5-pin
    midi connector to plug into the new audio interface midi in."
     
      Are you sure that works for the Quad Capture? I've read in old posts (pre-Quad
    Capture) that won't work:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Using-Roland-GK2a-or-GK3-m200845.aspx
     
      I'd like the least expensive good solution.




    I'm not familiar with the interface, is the GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface only handles midi or is it a sound module also ?
     
    If the purpose of the USB port for GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface is for MIDI data transmission (none audio), then it's standard 5-pin MIDI port should transmit the same information. 

    Albert


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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 00:20:13 (permalink)
      Roland GI-20 GK-MIDI Interface
      http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/563
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 04:13:30 (permalink)
    I've downloaded the manual and here is my observation :
     
    (ref : manual page 40, point 1 of MIDI Implementation)
    You only need the USB if you're connecting a sound module/keyboard to the GI-20 (via 5-pin MIDI out) and with a connection to the computer at the same time (manual example page 10). This is for recorded midi data from the computer (such as Sonar), during playback to pass via USB to the GI-20, and in turn, pass to the sound module.
     
    However, if you're using soft synth, there is no need to use external MIDI sound module.
     
    Alternately, if you're using a sound module and in the event that the driver doesn't work with newer Windows, you can always get a multi-MIDI in/out device and route your sound module to this device (G1-20 to MIDI in #1, sound module to MIDI out #2).
     
    Now, hopefully an actual user of the GI-20 can verify if this is indeed true; but I'm quite sure this is true :)

    Albert


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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 14:03:57 (permalink)

    Johnny V  
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 14:23:45 (permalink)
    The thing with Guitar synths is they have better latency when triggering their dedicated sound module, Things have most likely improved since I bought my GR 50 but if I use the MIDI outs to trigger a soft synth the latency is terrible. No problem as all you have to do is monitor the sound module while recording and then pull the midi track back a bit in time. 
     
    Seeing as the unit you have can send MIDI over both MIDI and the USB you actually don't need MIDI ports on your interface, but for what it's worth they are still an asset if you are ever interested in driving outboard gear that is older and doesn't use USB. If you use USB then you need separate drivers for it.  I like good old MIDI ports for this reason, your interface drivers take care of both audio and MIDI. 
     
    Make a list, like you just did, of all the ins and outs you would like and plan on possible future needs. Most important is you requirements for Round trip Latency performance. RTL
     
    You defiantly will want the RME interface if your planning on using things like Guitar Rig. 
     Most USB interfaces perform well in all aspects but the RTL. PCIe cards and Firewire are still the top performers. Read this very informative thread. 
     
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/618474-audio-interface-low-latency-performance-data-base-20.html
     
    note; Roland's are not even on the list  or is my  Focusrite. I don't need RTL to be low because I use direct monitoring and stay away from situations that require better performance. Down the road I will look into buying one of the interfaces from the top of the list here. 
     If good RTL performance is not on your list of requirements then it's really just about connectivity and reliable drivers.  Here is my review for the Scarlett 6i6 to give you an idea of makeing a shopping list. 
     
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/reviews/906141-focusrite-scarlett-6i6.html
     
     
    You don't mention if you have a version of Sonar at this point. One good thing about the Roland interface is it comes with Sonar X1 LE which will give you a cheap upgrade path to X3e so this has some value, otherwise the Scarlett line up beats Ronald in price point for features. 
     
     
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2014/06/11 14:29:11

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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 17:42:14 (permalink)
      RTL info on the Roland Quad Capture and Steinberg UR44:
     
      the Quad-Capture considerably better than the Duo-Capture Ex, and in the same
    ball-park as the RME.
      http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/899048-steinberg-ur22-vs-komplete-audio-6-vs-roland-quad-capture.html
     
      Steinberg UR44 review
      http://www.musictech.net/2014/04/steinberg-ur44-review/
     
      The Steinberg UR-44 is a new (relatively low cost) audio interface that offers
    good fidelity and low round-trip latency.
      http://forum.cakewalk.com/What39s-a-really-good-Audio-Interface-wlowest-latency-m3010201.aspx
     
      Latency-Free Monitoring with FX UR44 offers zero-latency monitoring with FX
    thanks to the included dspMixFx software with integration for Cubase owners with
    auto-setup, custom views, and much more.
      http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1018651-REG/steinberg_ur44.html
     
      I have a Roland-ready Strat with a (correction--not GK-3) GK-2A divided pickup
    and a GI-20, also Yamaha DD-55 drums and an Oxygen 8 keyboard. All this gear is
    about 10? years old.  Please bear with me: I haven't recorded yet and I'm not
    familiar with some of the terms being used.  I finally got a new PC and want to
    get whatever interface I need and Cakewalk or Cubase for one man recording.  I'm
    splurging but I'm actually on a low income and can't really use any $1,500
    solutions.
      http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/drums/drums_digital_percussion/portable_digital_drums/dd_series/dd-55/?mode=model
      http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-OXYGEN-25-Key-Controller-9900-41392-00/dp/B000ED4CUW
     
    post edited by glenster - 2014/06/11 18:00:21
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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/11 21:49:55 (permalink)
    Zero latency / direct monitoring may help audio recording. But in the case of midi guitar, it will depend how fast the GI-20 output the MIDI data, in turn driving the external sound module, or for fast soft synth playback, a fast CPU helps. You can still do direct monitoring from the actual Strat guitar sound.

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    Re: What audio interface would you recommend? 2014/06/13 13:39:21 (permalink)
     
      Roland support:
      Connect the Roland-Ready Strat with a GK-2a pickup to the GI-20.  Connect the
    GI-20 MIDI out to the MIDI in of the UM-ONE-MK32 interface, then connect that to a
    computer.
     
      Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI Interface  $40
      http://www.amazon.com/Roland-UM-ONE-mk2-MIDI-Interface/dp/B009D3CTVS
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