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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/13 05:47:07 (permalink)
Try.

1. Delete AUD.INI (google for details).
2. In Sonar preferences disable arm changes during record.

Thx.

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/17 10:50:31 (permalink)
Wow, OK, Now my space bar (stop) at the end of every track recording, MIDI, Analog, effects, no effects, prompts a crash, wait, not true, an "APP Hang"...... been going on since about 3am.  Maybe I'm just crazy, .....now I've recorded 20 tracks..(tried to record, er played...) with the same result, finish and press the space bar ..or.. use the Mouse and click stop, and voila! Sonar stops responding. Ya see, I keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results... that's a sign of insanity right??   Stumbling out to the woods now........

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/18 06:18:09 (permalink)
I've updated to Win10 64bit to get the updated driver for the OctaCapture, everything was seemingly playing nice when (mid recording, not on a transport stop)...

Unlabored with only four tracks, 2 MIDI coupled with analog voices and two straight analog.
I dunno, ...obviously beating my head against a tree in the woods didn't help at all, ...maybe I'll go lay down...
I did the tune with 6 tracks in audacity just fine earlier Saturday, maybe that's the answer, but I will miss those wonderful toys!

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/18 10:05:14 (permalink)
Please check my last post. Do it again if you've updated to Windows 10.
Please post new errors from windows event viewer.
 
I notice you have SI in that screenshot, that would be my first suspicion other than drivers.
Also run the XLN installer and run updates.
I assume CCC is fully up to date.
 
Otherwise you might want to go the nuclear option, that is backing up, formatting the disk and performing a clean Windows 10 installation from installation media.
 
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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/18 12:35:47 (permalink)
I am using window 8.1 with Sonar X3e, and the Octa-Capture with the latest drivers.
I use Sonar strictly for live performance playing back tracks. I am very suspicious of Oct-Capture. Some weird things are happening, such as the USB connection stops responding for no apparent reason. I'll have to reboot and then everything is fine for the rest of the show. This happens randomly.
I have a fast dual processor laptop computer with SSD drive 6 Gigs of ram. It's definitely fast enough, up to date with everything. All connections to Internet are disabled. Windows update is disabled as well as the windows virus protection program. Basically I have nothing running in the background. Sleep mode disabled etc.
Also I've tried to use the direct monitoring of one vocal channel, while playing back tracks, and it turned into a nightmare.
Just thought you should know.

P.S.
Have you tried this.
http://www.cakewalk.com/S...n-Install-Instructions
post edited by micdim - 2015/10/18 12:51:43

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/18 12:38:57 (permalink)
Octacapture problems come up time and again in these forums. It might be buggy as hell or it might be lots more Sonar users bought the interface because of the brand association.

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/18 12:45:03 (permalink)
Wow, don't see how I missed your post, I did delete the AUD.INI before, something CakeAlex got me into the habit of doing a few years back. I didn't do it with the new upgrade though. I did (had to) to and update of all the XLN stuff, Drums and Keys, and I also checked CCC for updates as well. I have since dumped the SI from my templets,(and the hanks continue) frankly the strings on my Fanthom are just as nice or better.  I'll give the AUD.INI rebuild another try. I think I'd rather go back in the woods and bang my head against a tree some more before the reformat and reinstall of everything. I know the DAW software is huge and consuming, I just thought it would be easier than this to get it to work.... Thanks again for your time and effort!
FWIW I hear a small static snap each time I hit the record key, not sure if that's incidental or coincidental, and also, I haven't noticed before, but the Place Marker for lack of a better term, doesn't follow the record line, it just stays at the 'home ' position, The triangular marker on the top timeline. Maybe its not supposed to, but I thought it used to..

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 11:16:09 (permalink)
I did the rename the AUD.INI, disable the allow change (already disabled), and reboot, (which I do more frequently than I would care to,..and where is the snappiness of win 10? I don't see it..) and things so far are indeed working better. I need to learn to pay better attention. I have a new grandbaby and so far have been able to complete 4 of his list of nursery music with no App hangs! Thanks a billion!
...and that tree in the woods is starting to regain some of its bark already...

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 11:24:42 (permalink)
I am glad it is working better. I catch this thread on my phone so can rarely type, but the thing that caught me is the "reformat/reinstall" comments. Please realize that those are extreme, last resort measures (and rarely help unless you are purging the registry and loading the machine differently). Do not make extra work unless forced to.
 
Plus it saves trees from excessive damage due to head banging!
post edited by mettelus - 2015/10/19 11:37:12

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 14:46:58 (permalink)
Thanks my Mettelus friend! Still crazy 'bout that vintage chunk of Muscle car!

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 16:35:18 (permalink)
If you've just installed Windows 10 it won't be "snappy" for the first few days...

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 17:17:56 (permalink)
Thanks Doc, Still having 'hang' problems.  Changing the AUD file does help for a while. I guess I should do that with each project. ...Need to make me a shortcut to there, always seems like such a long dark path...
Thanks Again!!

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 18:01:32 (permalink)
You don't need to delete aud.ini again that's not going to do anything...

Just pasting in some generic advice here...



Advice is generally (no particular order)...

1) Update audio interface drivers and firmware to latest. I strongly recommend removing old version and rebooting afterwards. Then when new one is installed reset the settings everywhere on the interface.

2) Temp disable your virus scanner. Before you do that though scan for your system for viruses and malware. Ie with AVG and Malwarebytes.

3) Make sure your audio interface is disabled in windows control panel sounds

4) Make sure the interface is plugged in USB2 socket. Not USB3.

5) Defrag. Don't use third party defrag utilities that monitor your system.

6) Update your display drivers

7) Update the rest of your drivers and firmware everywhere. eg controllers.

8) Disable unnecessary startup programs and services. Remove unnecessary applications from windows add/remove programs. Google and research this. Warning do not disable security features.

9) Update your motherboard chipset drivers (try Intel driver update site) and BIOS

10) Check windows event viewer for bugs.

11) Try deleting AUD.INI (google for details)

12) Check windows device manager. Can you disable any drivers you don't need? eg HDMI drivers.

13) Check task scheduler to make sure nothing is running whilst using your DAW. Google 'windows event viewer' for further details.

14) Make sure CPU in windows power settings is set to 100% for  min and max. Optimize your drivers for power management.

15) If you have ASIO4ALL remove it!!!

16) Tools latencymon, process monitor and process explorer are your friends here.

17) Run windows update!

And always backup

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 18:51:48 (permalink)
Thanks again Doc, I actually have that list written down on a pad here and go through it regularly. (Stole it from another thread .) All but the event viewer, like I said, I'm scared of that place...
I have Latency mon and it tells me no probs but latency isn't my issue. I will try the other two though. ...and I cant find windows update in Win10?
Thanks again

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Re: What else can I turn off to prevent Sonar from crashing?? 2015/10/19 19:15:38 (permalink)
Event viewer is read only it's just a viewer. You are looking for the red icons and crashes with sonar.exe esp.

Don't worry about windows update in win10 sorry it's gonna keep you up to date whether you like it or not nowadays..

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