FastBikerBoy
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 11:34:09
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What a difference 18 months makes. I'm now using just about all of those that I listed back then.......
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Re:What features do you never use?
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 11:58:36
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ACT Beatscape - CD Burner - Cyclone Dreamstation Loop view Lyrics view Matrix View - Pentagon Publisher - RXP SFZ Surround bus TTS-1 Synth Video View - CAL language File / Print Import Audio CD Import Video Navigator Surround panner Insert Bank/Patch change Insert series of controllers Process / Remove DC Offset Process / Fit Improvisation Set Default Groove Clip Pitch Window pulldown menu Video View Matrix View Beatscape Surround Sound Navigation view (Defender view) Step Sequencer Dreamstation synth Session Drummer - any version TTS-1 Synth Arpeggiator Publisher External Inserts ACT Guitar Rig I have and like the TH2 by Overloud Rewire. Dropzone
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 12:37:33
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Juan Sanchez ACT Beatscape - CD Burner - Cyclone Dreamstation Loop view Lyrics view Matrix View - Pentagon Publisher - RXP SFZ Staff View Surround bus TTS-1 Synth Video View - Track Layer solo/mute CAL language File / Print Import Audio CD Import Video Navigator Surround panner Insert Bank/Patch change Insert series of controllers Process / Remove DC Offset Process / Fit Improvisation Set Default Groove Clip Pitch Window pulldown menu Video View Matrix View Beatscape Surround Sound Navigation view (Defender view) Step Sequencer Dreamstation synth Session Drummer - any version TTS-1 Synth Arpeggiator Publisher External Inserts ACT Guitar Rig I have and like the TH2 by Overloud Rewire. Dropzone Wouldn't it have been quicker to type "the whole program"?
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 12:45:31
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Interesting thread. As someone alluded to already, it's a bag of tools to suit various peoples' needs, but it still gave me pause for thought at the sheer quantity of things I don't use. Most I don't need, or have tried and don't like and there must be some that may be helpful if I took time out to learn them better. Video View Matrix View Staff view Lyric view Console view (used only sometimes) Multidock Beatscape Surround Sound Navigation strip Step Sequencer V-Vocal (Melodyne instead) AudioSnap - every time I try to use it I can't get it to help me with what I'm trying to do) Session Drummer - any version (XLN Addictive Drums far better) None of the synths except z3ta+ All the plugins except Lexicon Pantheon! (Instead: TRacks3, FabFilter, Ozone5, EZmix, and others) Screensets (sorry, FBB!) Arpeggiator Publisher External Inserts ACT Rewire CD burning
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 13:14:53
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Its faster to mention the features I do or would like to use Rewire (would love to use it but I have ranted about that many times here) Video view Audio tracks vst support I do not compose in Sonar it just became a pain without rewire but its a great tool for mixing audio stems for me so I use it for what its good at and skip the bloat that is in it now. I will likely upgrade to X2 but doubt I will upgrade again for at least 5 or 6 years
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 13:35:09
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I use it for what its good at and skip the bloat Hey, one man's bloat is another man's must-have feature. Or to put it in Neo-like terms... instead, realize the truth - there is no bloat. Just sayin'...
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 14:25:26
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Mod Bod, What's wrong with Session Drummer? Just curious since I like it and am surprised you would never use it, at least for variety if nothing else. I doubt I will use Matrix view, but who knows? I may go through a Rave phase.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 14:47:51
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Matrix View Beatscape Surround Sound Navigation view Step Sequencer Dreamstation synth Session Drummer TTS-1 Synth Dropzone Cyclone SI Arpeggiator Publisher External Inserts ACT Rewire Lyric View External Inserts Rapture LE Dimension Pro All the bundled plugins V-vocal
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 16:00:34
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FastBikerBoy Juan Sanchez ACT Beatscape - CD Burner - Cyclone Dreamstation Loop view Lyrics view Matrix View - Pentagon Publisher - RXP SFZ Staff View Surround bus TTS-1 Synth Video View - Track Layer solo/mute CAL language File / Print Import Audio CD Import Video Navigator Surround panner Insert Bank/Patch change Insert series of controllers Process / Remove DC Offset Process / Fit Improvisation Set Default Groove Clip Pitch Window pulldown menu Video View Matrix View Beatscape Surround Sound Navigation view (Defender view) Step Sequencer Dreamstation synth Session Drummer - any version TTS-1 Synth Arpeggiator Publisher External Inserts ACT Guitar Rig I have and like the TH2 by Overloud Rewire. Dropzone Wouldn't it have been quicker to type "the whole program"? LOL There is a lot that I do you use and love!
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/07 20:02:13
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I never use the "Let's Make This Song Better Than All The Others" module. It don't work anyway.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 03:07:46
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I was amazed at all the people who had ACT on the list. Then I realized that I only took the trouble to learn and use ACT in any detail on account of the PC not supporting any of the bi-directional protocols, i.e. automap, frontier, mackie. But it - ACT - was really nice to have and I use it to control PC now. As to the real question, somebody already nailed it - I don't know what I don't use. Except matrix. I do not use it because you can't record and replay performances with it, i.e. control it with a midi track. And I was so excited at first. Then I got mad. I am still mad, matter of fact.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 07:58:25
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konradh Mod Bod, What's wrong with Session Drummer? Just curious since I like it and am surprised you would never use it, at least for variety if nothing else. I doubt I will use Matrix view, but who knows? I may go through a Rave phase. I have better drum samplers than Session Drummer. Session Drummer has been improving but it got off to such a slow start, that it will be hard to catch up with the leading products. One thing that has improved Session Drummer 3 is that it's gotten the attention of 3rd party sample producers like Platinum Samples and they have created SD3 compatible sample sets.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 08:38:04
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Dappa1 What happened to the punch in punch out lol totally ridiculoous that was. Press record record over part. Thats, that! Hmmmm.... Miles may vary, I use that feature all the time
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 15:35:36
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Nobody has listed Offset Mode. I don't think that opening something by hitting a key accidentally counts as properly using it.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 16:02:27
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Mod Bod, Just saw your comment about Sonar adding "me too" features. I see it a little differently. There are various types of users (and some of these overlap): • Self-contained writers-producers • Producers who record bands • Producers of loop-based dance music • TV/Film composers • Songwriters • Users who depend on or prefer virtual instruments or in-the-box mixing • Those with a good deal of external gear • Studio-based users • Portable laptop recordists If a DAW specialized in providing a solution for just one or a few of these groups, the DAW market would become very fragmented. Every time a producer or writer took a new direction or wanted to try something new, he or she would have to buy, configure, and learn a new tool. For example, there a people here who vehemently argue how pointless a Staff View while I, on the other hand, cannot imagine composing in a PRV or Matrix view—but I do not want Cakewalk to drop support of the PRV or Matrix views just because I don't use them often right now. To your point about support and development costs, if a function has few users, then I doubt it has many bug reports or requirements to handle.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/08 19:15:07
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This thread worries me. I always thought the answers to all my problems (well almost all) were here in the forum. Now I see that a lot of people don't use many of the features! Please reassure me you have the answers. I'm from the school of "I've paid for it, I'm going to use it!" I try all features a few times and keep the ones that suite as part of my regular work. The ones that bite the dust are ones where I have a better version from elsewhere: V-Vocal (Melodyne) Session Drummer (BFD2) Video (Vegas Pro) Sometimes I find using a feature you've neglected can give you a fresh outlook, even old out of date ones. Never been a fan of surround sound so have no use for it. Hardcore user of Staff View (please improve)
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 05:24:49
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ProjectM why do you use it. It serves no purpose. Obviously you can see where you need to make that take again. If it's vocals set the time line to intro your self whilst recording. If you then sing or play it will record that part anyway!!! I don't know????????
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 05:26:31
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Hey FastBikerBoy, long time no talk, hope you are ok? you know, us fanbois have to stick together you know!
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 05:40:12
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ProjectM Dappa1 What happened to the punch in punch out lol totally ridiculoous that was. Press record record over part. Thats, that! Hmmmm.... Miles may vary, I use that feature all the time Best feature ever. Nothing like trying to re-record a 3 minute guitar solo with two bum notes.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 05:49:36
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Dappa1 ProjectM why do you use it. It serves no purpose. Obviously you can see where you need to make that take again. If it's vocals set the time line to intro your self whilst recording. If you then sing or play it will record that part anyway!!! I don't know???????? Serves no purpose? How often do you record precise and challenging instrumental or vocal tracks? Sometimes you get a great take with one or two small mistakes. It can be excruciating to get another full take that sounds the same or as good, especially if it's a longer take like a 2 minute guitar solo. Punch-in will allow you to fix a gaff extremely easy and there is no cut/paste nonsense involved. You simply play along with the original take and it will grab and fix that one small piece which could be a second or less in length. It's seamless if done correctly and you never know it happened, it just feels like you were playing/singing along with the other take. It may serve no purpose to you but punching-in is a vital and time-honoured tradition.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 05:59:04
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Dappa1 ProjectM why do you use it. It serves no purpose. Obviously you can see where you need to make that take again. If it's vocals set the time line to intro your self whilst recording. If you then sing or play it will record that part anyway!!! I don't know???????? Of course it serves a purpose, and I've hardly met a recording engineer who doesn't use a feature like this at some point. Say I'm doing six tracks of harmony vocals in a chrous. I set up the punch in and punch out part, set now time a bar or so before punch in and hit record. Do the part until it's good, arm the next track and work on that. Repeat until done. Move the punch times to the next part and do the same. It's nice and tidy. Not to mention if I need to replace a bar that I either decide to change or need to fix - regardless of instrument - then I can play along with the part and Sonar punch in and out and all I need to think about is playing the part. Then of course it's the whole fix the little bits when doing laybacks or ADR or whatever for broadcast material where Sonar is synced up to a Digibeta, Multitrack recorder or something like that. Trust me, the punch in punch out is not as ridiculous as you may think because you are not using it.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:19:27
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I tried it once or twice> I just had to let it go and work in the time honoured way. Maybe cos its something that you dont need to use so often. But then again if it works for you then its all good but for me. I just hit record and do away with the part recorded in error. tsk Simples!
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:21:09
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Stoones: that would be just wasting time in the studio. You need to learn how to utilize your time better.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:23:18
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konradh Mod Bod, Just saw your comment about Sonar adding "me too" features. I see it a little differently. There are various types of users (and some of these overlap): • Self-contained writers-producers • Producers who record bands • Producers of loop-based dance music • TV/Film composers • Songwriters • Users who depend on or prefer virtual instruments or in-the-box mixing • Those with a good deal of external gear • Studio-based users • Portable laptop recordists If a DAW specialized in providing a solution for just one or a few of these groups, the DAW market would become very fragmented. Every time a producer or writer took a new direction or wanted to try something new, he or she would have to buy, configure, and learn a new tool. For example, there a people here who vehemently argue how pointless a Staff View while I, on the other hand, cannot imagine composing in a PRV or Matrix view—but I do not want Cakewalk to drop support of the PRV or Matrix views just because I don't use them often right now. To your point about support and development costs, if a function has few users, then I doubt it has many bug reports or requirements to handle. Best post on this thread. There are so many things I could say but it also occurred to me that I have asked for features that I found useful in other DAWs. CW has implemented some of them. Is that a "me too" situation? Can any one user use every feature in Sonar? My question is why worry about it? I look at it as its there when you find you need it. You may never use it but if its not there and you do need it what then? There are many that only use Sonar as a tape recorder. Does that mean they are missing something? Are they limiting themselves? Do they really need X1 Producer? If they don't why did they buy it? There are lots of things I have not used in Sonar but I have found that things I thought I would never need became essential under the right circumstances. To me X1 has a lot of things that could be added and others that could be upgraded. I don't think there will ever be a point when CW is done putting features into their DAW. If one sees it as "I don't need it therefore I wont want anyone else to have it" do we really think that is a good way to interact with our fellow forum members? I want X1 to appeal to the broadest user base possible. For me that will insure a healthy CW. I'm also not too sure that proclaiming pride in never using a feature is a sign of wisdom or intellect but rather a very narrow minded view about a very powerful software program. Perhaps a lack of curiosity too. This is just another perspective.
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:48:29
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John I'm also not too sure that proclaiming pride in never using a feature is a sign of wisdom or intellect but rather a very narrow minded view about a very powerful software program. Perhaps a lack of curiosity too. I wish I had a Gold, Silver or Bronze Medal for this.. but I don't. I wish I could show up at your local pub and buy a round of brews for this, but I cant. Therefore, on behalf of all the users on Cakewalk.com, I'd like to present you with this silly meme; for a post well done!
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:53:11
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It's not wise to not use a feature that some one else has used. The wise thing would be to use it erm why John? Why should I be curious to use something that I used before and I am happy to use that function in a way that works for me? I am struggling to see your logic Spock!
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 06:56:09
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Dappa1 I tried it once or twice> I just had to let it go and work in the time honoured way. Maybe cos its something that you dont need to use so often. But then again if it works for you then its all good but for me. I just hit record and do away with the part recorded in error. tsk Simples! FWIW - I do that too
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 07:00:46
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ProjectM "it's possible in X1". :)
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Re:What features do you never use?
2012/08/09 07:03:38
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Dappa1 Stoones: that would be just wasting time in the studio. You need to learn how to utilize your time better. Unh, OK. You might want to better educate yourself on the subject before making such comments. I initially learned about punching-in while working as a session player (guitarist and backup vocals with co-writing credits on two songs) , in a studio no less, for a band engineered and produced by Nick Blagona: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Nick+Blagona#t=Credits_Technical&q=&p=1 Post up your resume and it'll give me a better idea whose opinon I should consider as more valid for my needs.
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