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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:46:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FanCake 2016/03/31 12:13:48
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Thanks.
 
There's something weird going on with server time on these forums. Posts seem to have 30 minutes added on top of the timestamp.

 
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You are a difficult person to please. HAHA.



Just saying, I wondered what happened with 30 minutes of my life for a while, and had to check if I took my meds..
Enjoying reading the ezine right now. Thanks again.


Hmm, maybe something is going on. Like every time you post, you lose 30 minutes of time. If that's the case it's best to choose our posts wisely. Like maybe not complain about losing 30 minutes of time :)
 
Or maybe during those 30 minutes of lost time, you are doing something super creative and you don't even know it. Definitely requires more investigation.
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:49:32 (permalink)
Andrew, it's clear the time travel plug-in still has bugs. I recommend removing it before the release drops, unless you already did so the future, and I don't know it yet because I'm still in the present. 

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:49:59 (permalink)
Thanks for the eZine!
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:52:04 (permalink)
Anderton
I do understand Mr Andertons predicament, however I think any sort of public release without documentation available is a mistake.

 
Anderton 
The public release does have the eZine. I believe early access has the online help. Early access is an "as is" release for those who want it. It is not intended to replace the official public release.



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To repeat again I think any sort of public release without documentation is a mistake, that's just my opinion which obviously does not matter, and I appreciate your clarification.

 
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Your opinion doesn't matter because it's not based on fact. Online help, which is indeed documentation, was available with early access. Click "What's New" under Help. In fact you don't even have to download the early access release to see What's New.



Craig why can't you leave things as it is without having to have a nit picking fight? The ezine is out and it is all history and I'm enjoying reading the ezine.


We all know there are help files included. By documentation I obviously mean release notes up front don't I? That way we can decide whether we want to install it or not. I don't use CCC unless I have to. I notice I'm not the only person who has said this. If you didn't know this for some odd reason here is your clarification.
 
It just so happens we've got these within 24 hours, that's fine. Maybe next month it can be done simultaneously. I suggest we all get on with better things now life is too short, I'm still enjoying reading your ezine.
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:56:50 (permalink)
Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 11:58:24 (permalink)
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We all know there are help files included. By documentation I obviously mean release notes up front don't I?

 
I didn't realize that in your opinion, including information on all the new features didn't qualify as release notes. Now that you've made that clear, carry on.

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 12:02:55 (permalink)
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We all know there are help files included. By documentation I obviously mean release notes up front don't I?

 
Anderton 
I didn't realize that in your opinion, including information on all the new features didn't qualify as release notes. Now that you've made that clear, carry on.




Release notes should include new features and bug fix information which I can read away from CCC and before I download the patch. I am now extremely sorry I expressed my opinion have a nice day.
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 12:19:20 (permalink)
There was a hold up on the final release to be sure it was fully ready. I am fully with CW in their care in being sure the quality of the final release is working as they wish it to. Noel has said it will be released sometime next week. At present if one can't wait one can get the early release. That is online and working fine. 
 
I for one think CW is doing the right thing here. 
 
 
 

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 12:19:39 (permalink)
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Release notes should include new features and bug fix information which I can read away from CCC and before I download the patch. I am now extremely sorry I expressed my opinion have a nice day.

 
No problem, I just didn't realize exactly how you defined "documentation" until the last post. You are correct that bug fixes are not listed in the online documentation.
 

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 12:30:06 (permalink)
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We all know there are help files included. By documentation I obviously mean release notes up front don't I?

 
Anderton 
I didn't realize that in your opinion, including information on all the new features didn't qualify as release notes. Now that you've made that clear, carry on.




Release notes should include new features and bug fix information which I can read away from CCC and before I download the patch. I am now extremely sorry I expressed my opinion have a nice day.


i think the "release notes" should be a simple text file, listing features and fixes (with appropriate CWBR numbers), completely separate from the in-depth e-zine, which has a more consumer flavour than a technical/engineering scent
/fwiw

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:02:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Keni 2016/03/31 20:41:11
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Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?


So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:07:24 (permalink)
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So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 




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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:13:51 (permalink)
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Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?


So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 


Thanks for the decoder ring.  (I'm pretty sure the scheme was self evident though.)
 
But...where's the fun in that?  How are we now going to ponder and speculate about what the next release name is going to be?
 
This Guy: Hey...I bet it's going to be 2016.04.
That Guy: Naw...that's crazy talk!
Other Guy: I'm voting for 1812.Overture
 
(How disappointingly corporate and completely sensical.)

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:15:32 (permalink)
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Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?


So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 




Hold on here. What if you're in a country that starts numbering months from zero? This numbering scheme may require some rethinking. 
 
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:16:10 (permalink)
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Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?


So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 


Thanks for the decoder ring.  (I'm pretty sure the scheme was self evident though.)
 
But...where's the fun in that?  How are we now going to ponder and speculate about what the next release name is going to be?
 
This Guy: Hey...I bet it's going to be 2016.04.
That Guy: Naw...that's crazy talk!
Other Guy: I'm voting for 1812.Overture
 
(How disappointingly corporate and completely sensical.)


HAHA. Yeah I know. But you have to admit it is simpler to understand. 
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:20:10 (permalink)
In fairness, Andrew did not claim the release identifier would always correspond to the year and month of the release just that the first part of the identifier is a year, the second is a month and they happen to coincide for this release and the next one.
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 13:55:45 (permalink)
kevinwal
 
 
Hold on here. What if you're in a country that starts numbering months from zero? This numbering scheme may require some rethinking. 
 
Yeah, I don't miss sitting in on requirements meetings at all. 


Or another planet in another galaxy far far far far away? with no concept of months in a solar cycle?

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 14:13:28 (permalink)
This is really going to screw things up for me when I retire to Mars. Even the astronomers can't agree on whether a Martian month is 56 sols, 42 sols, or something else altogether. However quite a few Martian calendars distribute the year over 24 months, which allows Cakewalk to include a convenient disclaimer of "innovation delivered monthly (except on Mars, when it's bi-monthly)." But then there's the confusion of when bi-monthly means twice a month vs. when it means every two months...never mind, just make the update available when you can.

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/03/31 15:22:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/04/01 05:33:04
Hey guys, it could be worse.  It could be 03.2016

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/01 04:17:13 (permalink)
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Uh...What happened to the 'O'?
 
2016.03 doesn't start with 'O'.
 
Is there some little burg in Massachusetts named 2016.03?


So we moved to a more conventional naming method as to offer better clarity. Here's a decoder for it.
 
First four digits = year (in this case it 2016)
Last two digits = month # (in this case month 03 for March)
 
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month. So if you want to ask a question about the April 2016 release, it would 2016.04. 


Thanks for the decoder ring.  (I'm pretty sure the scheme was self evident though.)
 
But...where's the fun in that?  How are we now going to ponder and speculate about what the next release name is going to be?
 
This Guy: Hey...I bet it's going to be 2016.04.
That Guy: Naw...that's crazy talk!
Other Guy: I'm voting for 1812.Overture
 (How disappointingly corporate and completely sensical.)

HAHA. Yeah I know. But you have to admit it is simpler to understand. 

MUCH SIMPLER!
Will any extra updated/patch be termed as 2016.03.16 - if that is released on 16th, or it will be 2016.03.01
 
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/01 04:59:37 (permalink)
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
So moving forward if you have a question about a release, you don't have to go back and try to figure out what city came in what month. Instead, you just refer to it by year and month.


I think it would be cool to do it both ways. Have the date and a name. I might remember what was in the Cambridge release but probably wouldn't remember what was in the 2015.03 release.
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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/01 17:56:28 (permalink)
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Here is the ezine:
 
http://static.cakewalk.com.s3.amazonaws.com/cakewalk/products/sonar/release_notes/Welcome_to_the_SONAR_2016.03_Update.pdf
 
 


Here it is! lol.... maybe it should be posted it in plan sight :) for lost people like me.



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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/05 17:44:52 (permalink)
OK, is it just me, or did anyone else notice that the '2016.03' (March 2016) release, was actually released in April?

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/05 17:48:15 (permalink)
Personally I was looking forward to seeing what"x" and"z" might be. Oh well.

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/05 18:03:15 (permalink)
I kind of liked the names rather than the number approach- it felt a bit more.........exclusive ! Like being in a club of sorts.
No worries - thanks for the updates nonetheless and thanks for not releasing it until you were ready. It probably saved us more time than we even know. Everything seems pretty stable to me so far. A little light, maybe, on features for us poor, hard up, Professional users haha (unless I'm yet to discover everything) but as long as I have stability and I know that I can rely on Cakewalk support should there be any problems then I'm happy. I just hope that the UI updates that arrive eventually will support all 'flavours' of Sonar and not just SPlat :)

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Re: What happened to the 'O' eZine? 2016/04/05 18:09:02 (permalink)
Saying that though - I love the help module :)

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