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2013/10/09 13:06:04 (permalink)

What it's like to work for Gibson

This is a site called glassdoor.com, where employees anonymously rate the companies they work for. A good reference for anybody considering taking a new job.
 
The page on Gibson is scary, and overwhelmingly negative. Now, I realize that employees griping about their jobs is pretty normal, but what's unusual about these rants is the consistency with which they specifically pin the blame on the company's owner.
 
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Gibson-Guitar-Reviews-E6869.htm
 
There are 5 pages of complaints. Granted, dissatisfied people are more likely to post than those who are happy in their jobs. But for comparison, look up Cakewalk; not one entry.
 
Anybody want to start a pool on how long Craig A. will remain on staff at Gibson?


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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 13:48:12 (permalink)
Not to seem trite, but there are actually 11 pages of primarily negative reviews.
 
I get the feeling that Craig A has finally found a place where his skills are appreciated.
 
I was already overwhelmed by a vivid impression of what it will be like to work at Cakewalk if Gibson chooses to actually buy it, and so I have chosen to not to make comments about the prospect.
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 13:56:36 (permalink)
bitflipperBut for comparison, look up Cakewalk; not one entry.
 



 
According to LinkedIn, Cakewalk has 51-200 employees and Gibson has 1001-5000 employees, so to be fair one should factor that in as well.

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 14:07:35 (permalink)
Sounds very bad.
People getting paid differently to do the same job combined
with long hours and no incentives...and knowing there is somebody
in line to take your place if you quit because jobs are hard to find...
sounds about normal for the US factory workers- what's left of them that is.
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 14:42:52 (permalink)
Naysayers, pfft.
 
I have it on good authority from Gibsons' Magic chief that Henry is a long-time Sonar fan.
 
That's enough to assuage any doubts I could have ever had.

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 14:51:40 (permalink)
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Naysayers, pfft.
 
I have it on good authority from Gibsons' Magic chief that Henry is a long-time Sonar fan.
 
That's enough to assuage any doubts I could have ever had.


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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 14:57:53 (permalink)
So there are a lot of pages of negative reviews for Gibson?  Well, what do you expect from a company that deals with a lot of dead wood?

 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 15:03:01 (permalink)
neat site....My company is primarily positive here.
 
Seems it is a good place to work.....better get back to it....
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 15:06:03 (permalink)
Well at least they now have the fringe benefit of all the cake they can eat.
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 15:44:53 (permalink)
And yet when you watch their factory videos, there are ones that have been there for many a year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqxN1IP9ng4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3WN-VyUak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEiiDa0twNM
 
It's a job not a freaky adventure.
 
usually like most jobs, fun is in the eye of the beholder perhaps.

or not.
 

 
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 17:03:32 (permalink)
 
Love that word 'assuage'.
 
Don't hear it too much around my neck of the woods.
 
I was thinking of using it once in a conversation but I was afraid I might get beat up.     :)
 
 

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 17:46:15 (permalink)
People ****ing about their job and blaming the boss probably happens just about everywhere.  All that really says to me is that any disgruntled CW employees haven't bothered to put their thoughts on that particular website or haven't even heard of it.
 
 
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 18:19:44 (permalink)
Ol Henry's got a longstanding reputation as something of a douche.  In and out of the company.  And just look at how he prices his "instruments".  We musicians are a gullible lot and he certainly has proven he knows, at least, that. 

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 19:09:00 (permalink)
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Ol Henry's got a longstanding reputation as something of a douche.  In and out of the company.  And just look at how he prices his "instruments".  We musicians are a gullible lot and he certainly has proven he knows, at least, that. 




Actually there was an interview with Henry in one of the financial papers (Wall Street Journal?) many years ago. He basically said that when he raised prices he sold more guitars. I think it's a matter of it being a "luxury good" model, where consumers follow a very different logic (if any at all).
 
And one of the interesting things about Gibson is that if you want to buy a Les Paul that says "Gibson" on the headstock, you can buy largely the same guitar at anywhere from ~$1200 for a Studio model (less for some other models) to $6000 or more. Any differences (PU's, binding, fancier wood) amount to a small fraction of the price difference. And often there's very little difference at all for widely varying prices, so they're basically saying, "pay what you want".
 
And people do.

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 19:11:31 (permalink)
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Ol Henry's got a longstanding reputation as something of a douche.  



And it's not just hearsay. It's documented in lawsuits. Craig appears to be Henry's golfing buddy at the moment, but he doesn't strike me as the type to kiss his boss' ass for very long. We'll see how that pans out. I give him a year, maybe two, although that would make his tenure longer than most. Being the PR face for a company struggling to regain respect has got to be hard anyhow, but to have a jerk for a boss on top of it...if he hangs on for the long term I'll be impressed.


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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 19:13:32 (permalink)
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Ol Henry's got a longstanding reputation as something of a douche.  



And it's not just hearsay. It's documented in lawsuits. Craig appears to be Henry's golfing buddy at the moment, but he doesn't strike me as the type to kiss his boss' ass for very long. We'll see how that pans out. I give him a year, maybe two, although that would make his tenure longer than most. Being the PR face for a company struggling to regain respect has got to be hard anyhow, but to have a jerk for a boss on top of it...if he hangs on for the long term I'll be impressed.


If Straummy can hang with The Bapu for all these years, Gibson ought to be a Cakewalk for old Craig A.
 
(see what I done there?)
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 19:35:33 (permalink)
For the record, I will NOT be part of any future upgrade for Gibson from Craig A. to Craig B.
 
(Just sayin'...)

 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 19:47:25 (permalink)
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Ol Henry's got a longstanding reputation as something of a douche.  



And it's not just hearsay. It's documented in lawsuits. Craig appears to be Henry's golfing buddy at the moment, but he doesn't strike me as the type to kiss his boss' ass for very long. We'll see how that pans out. I give him a year, maybe two, although that would make his tenure longer than most. Being the PR face for a company struggling to regain respect has got to be hard anyhow, but to have a jerk for a boss on top of it...if he hangs on for the long term I'll be impressed.


If Straummy can hang with The Bapu for all these years, Gibson ought to be a Cakewalk for old Craig A.
 
(see what I done there?)
 



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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 20:30:46 (permalink)
Oh I'm not faulting ol Henry's pricing model from a business perspective...just from a "human being" perspective:-)

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 20:52:50 (permalink)
"All jobs suck."
 
Just face it, because on one level or another, that is just the truth.  The best position to be in, "your own boss;" even then, work is work.
 
 

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 21:42:05 (permalink)
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"All jobs suck."
 
Just face it, because on one level or another, that is just the truth.  The best position to be in, "your own boss;" even then, work is work.
 
 



Except if you enjoy what you're doing, it doesn't feel like work.

 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 22:31:05 (permalink)
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Oh I'm not faulting ol Henry's pricing model from a business perspective...just from a "human being" perspective:-)



But note that it works both ways - if you want to pay 5x more for basically the same LP, you can. But you don't have to.
 
From a human being perspective it shows that perceived value is as malleable as the brains of humans who associate value with price alone. The expensive ones - and sometimes the pricing seems almost completely random if you look at the various models - are for human beings who care about status more than functionality (to go with their fancy designer watches and whatnot).

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 22:37:25 (permalink)
I think Henry is just pricing them high to jack up the value of the vintage Gibson gear.
 
Then he'll sell for his private collection for {DrEvilVoice} ONE MILLLLLIONNNN DOLLLLARRRRRRRRRRRS {/DrEvilVoice}
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/09 22:45:18 (permalink)
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Oh I'm not faulting ol Henry's pricing model from a business perspective...just from a "human being" perspective:-)



But note that it works both ways - if you want to pay 5x more for basically the same LP, you can. But you don't have to.
 
From a human being perspective it shows that perceived value is as malleable as the brains of humans who associate value with price alone. The expensive ones - and sometimes the pricing seems almost completely random if you look at the various models - are for human beings who care about status more than functionality (to go with their fancy designer watches and whatnot).


Yup, like I said above...we musicians are a gullible lot.
 

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 00:36:06 (permalink)
Dave, My brother in law's brother in law works at the Gibson Custom Shop. I've asked him how he likes it and he says he loves it.  He just finished work on Paul McCartney's Les Paul. I wish I could get a Les Paul.
 
P.S. right after that he did Ron Wood's Les Paul. Sounds like a good job to me 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 08:29:23 (permalink)
The beating will continue until moral improves.....
 
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 08:58:46 (permalink)
I don't know but can imagine that being a luthier working for Gibson
as a very good gig. Getting to do what one loves to do and not having
to deal with the business...and probably making a good income.
 
I can also imagine how easy it would be to get an attitude if one doesn't
or can't progress through the "line" to become a luthier for whatever reasons.
Stuck in one "stage" day after day...and maybe one doesn't realize that they
are just not cut-out to be a luthier and it's....just a job.
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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 09:01:40 (permalink)
I work for "a VERY large government contractor" - the company has over 125k employees.  the plant where I work alone has 13k.
 
on that website that Bit showed us, employee satisfaction for the company I work for was 3.4 stars out of 5 and the approval rating of the CEO was 84%.
 
I think those numbers are quite high for people who think that ALL employees complain about their boss and the company they work for.  I think it's bad to generalize like that and I disagree with it.

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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 10:08:53 (permalink)
Let's see, a "very large" government contractor in Texas...OK, so do you know anything about the billions Halliburton "lost"? If so, I'll keep quiet if you let me in on it.


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Re: What it's like to work for Gibson 2013/10/10 10:13:21 (permalink)
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Dave, My brother in law's brother in law works at the Gibson Custom Shop. I've asked him how he likes it and he says he loves it.  He just finished work on Paul McCartney's Les Paul. I wish I could get a Les Paul.
 
P.S. right after that he did Ron Wood's Les Paul. Sounds like a good job to me 


After hearing him sing lately I want less Paul too.
 
In all fairness he's not quite as bad off as Stephen Stills.
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