rodreb
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What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
With the free Windows 10 upgrade ending soon, I was wondering what everyone is thinking of it with SONAR Platinum by this time. I have stubbornly been hanging on to my Windows 7 all this time but, thinking maybe I SHOULD go for it. Frightening!!! Right now, everything works for me so well, hate to add a variable . However, time marches on, I know.
Any opinions, experiences, info would be appreciated.
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Ruckman65
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 01:04:00
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Hello Rod. The upgrade from 7 to 10 has been flawless for me. I was worried about drivers and the usual hiccups that can happen. I remember only too well the troubles I had upgrading from XP to 7 (let alone upgrading from 3.1 to Win95!!!). But, this time around, perfect. Sonar works beautifully in the new environment.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 01:08:04
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Just did the upgrade to Windows 10 this weekend, for me the upgrade was like a root canal, painful, and it took all weekend . . . but that's nothing to do with Cakewalk, there were far too many Microsoft hoops to jump through on my system, which has much customization . . . but now that it's done, everything runs exceptionally well with Sonar Platinum on Win 10 Pro. I've read so many stories here on the forum about how smooth the upgrade was, but it just didn't go well for me.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 01:19:17
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At this point you might as well just wait for the Win10 Anniversary Update coming out next month.
Been running the Insider Preview on my laptop and it's been stable with a lot of new features and workflow improvements.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 02:30:35
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I'd say go for it. Free is free.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 03:02:34
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I'd say upgrade right away before the free upgrade period ends. Check out my post that has lots of details of the pros and cons, my concerns, etc. The bottom line is it's one of the best upgrades I've done as far as easy to adapt to. Also you can have a permanent dual boot system with both OS. You'll see how I explain all this in my post. I'm very pleased I did it on both my Win 7 and Win 8 machines. http://forum.cakewalk.com...o-Win-10-m3350657.aspx
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 03:23:41
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It was wise to wait. I upgraded too early and rolled back - no printers seen, 'spiky' text fonts - appalling. I tried again about five months ago and all was well, so they'd obviously fixed a lot. (Edge still has spiky fonts so I switched to Google Chrome.) I'd go for it, after all it's inevitable... 
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 03:31:54
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☄ Helpfulby Rocsee70 2016/06/20 05:41:54
You can have the best of both worlds Rob. Take a disc image of your win 7 system drive (I use acronis true image) before you update. I updated upon first release, and after 6 weeks found the constant windows updates messing with my studio drivers annoying, so I took a disc image of win 10, then just reloaded my win 7 disc image (takes about 15mins). I am still runnig win 7, but have the free, registered win 10 image for whenever I get bored enough to try again:)
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 03:40:36
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If you upgrade existing system, especially if you want to leave everything to avoid re-installation, it is better to know someone experienced in that. I have upgraded many system and there was no problems I could not solve within 10-20 minutes. But I can imagine "normal" users will write "that was a nightmare, I had to go back" hitting such cases.
Other then that, if all your hardware is supported, that is huge step forward from Windows 7. When the hardware is not powerful, the difference can be noticed immediately.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 06:03:26
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hey Rod, what are using for an audio interface ?
just make sure you have drivers for that.
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tzzsmk
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 07:25:27
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correct question would be, is your audio interface ready for Windows 10? because that's what really matters most - drivers,
from my own experience I can say RME drivers work well on Windows 10, on the other hand I am very dissatisfied with Windows 10 so far (using it only at work, not on my private workstation, staying with Windows 7 till its end which is supposed to be in january 2020) as it's basically fukcing up my audio and video drivers, file associations, ramdisks, system settings and plenty other stuff basically with every system update (using insider fasting ring releases, so it's indeed publicly not recommended, but I think it's worth seeing what's coming up next),
also if you don't have SSD and at least 4GB ram, then don't even bother upgrading, your PC will not handle Windows 10 well
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 07:53:10
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I'd avoid an actual upgrade of your hard drive with Win 7 installed, and install 10 on a fresh hard drive. You just need the serial that came with Win 7 and any Win 10 install disc will work for any level of 10, or download an ISO from MS. You can even boot the MS install from a thumb drive, you don't have to burn a disc.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 07:55:20
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tzzsmk
correct question would be, is your audio interface ready for Windows 10? because that's what really matters most - drivers...
This is the main thing. Windows 10 has been out long enough...If your interface supports it, go for it. If it does not, consider changing interfaces. With Windows 7 getting a little old, it is just a matter of time before support for it runs out... heck out what Noel is saying here... http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-meltdown-Failed-upgrade-Now-Sonar-wont-run-at-all-m3396892.aspx
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 07:56:04
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tzzsmk
also if you don't have SSD and at least 4GB ram, then don't even bother upgrading, your PC will not handle Windows 10 well
Only on SSD? That's just silly - windows 10 runs just fine on a standard HDD.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 08:33:55
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Loving Windows 10! Although, I have had an issue with the drivers for my Studio-Captures not wanting to play nice with other DAWs than SPlat.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 09:20:36
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I upgraded last week, and although a bit painful, all is well. The upgrade from 7 Home premium didn't work - it gave me error messages, so instead I did a clean install from a USB stick. This of course meant re-installing everything including Sonar (which I upgraded at the same time from X3 to Platinum life-time), Komplete 10, and my AKAI plug-ins.
The only hiccup was that my Tranzport needed to be installed in compatibility mode, because the driver is not Win 10 ready (and never will be). My Focusrite 2i4 installed without a hitch.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 09:44:39
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My upgrade was flawless. I bought a new Focusrite 18i20 because I knew it had support for Win 10. After I upgraded I found out the Tascam us-1200 that I had actually worked also although there was no support. Very Happy with the upgrade to Win 10.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 10:31:44
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My experience has been that newer desktop systems are no problem. Laptops not so, Seems laptops never update drivers to new OS. This has been my observation going way back. So you tend to losse things like battery management, card readers and the web camera.
My DAW is still on W8.1 and I'm also reluctant to fix what ain't broke but I guess I'll go ahead next month just before the deadline.
But my Daw laptop will stay w7 until it dies.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 10:46:10
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I moved form v7/8 to v10 on my work desktop, my DAW, two notebooks and a Surface. All have been better on v10 than they were on previous platforms.
Also, even though UAD doesn't officially support w10, my UAD platform has been much more stable on v10 than on 8.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 12:07:51
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Skyline_UK
It was wise to wait. I upgraded too early and rolled back - no printers seen, 'spiky' text fonts - appalling. I tried again about five months ago and all was well, so they'd obviously fixed a lot. (Edge still has spiky fonts so I switched to Google Chrome.) I'd go for it, after all it's inevitable...
I'm glad I waited too. I switched 4 months ago with no problems, except the usual upgrade problems, which were far less than any other upgrades. The thing that really convinced me was the fact that I can have a dual boot system with the old OS as long as I want, not the one month restriction on rolling back using control panel.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 12:30:16
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Resonant Serpent I'd avoid an actual upgrade of your hard drive with Win 7 installed, and install 10 on a fresh hard drive. You just need the serial that came with Win 7 and any Win 10 install disc will work for any level of 10, or download an ISO from MS. You can even boot the MS install from a thumb drive, you don't have to burn a disc. Good point. Although I'd suggest first making sure you have Win 7 backed up to another HD or an image file and then upgrade Win 7 to Win 10. If it all works fine and most of the time it does then you don't' have to install from scratch, which is very time consuming. If it doesn’t work out or you just want to go back to Win 7 to check something you have that other HD or image file to do so. It's really nice to know that we have that option of installing from scratch. I did make an install CD, because it's important to have it if there are booting problems. Also I did upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 using the install CD instead of the internet method. I felt it was safer. When I upgraded my Win 8.1 DAW to Win 10 I used the internet method and it worked very good. I had less hoops to jump through than the Win 7 to Win 10 upgrade.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 12:54:37
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After I DLed the drivers for my hardware and made an image of Win 7 I upgraded to Win 10 with no major problems. You may have to reactivate a program or two but that is no problem. I have programs from Win 95, XP and 7 running on Win 10. Sonar runs perfectly on Win 10.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 16:15:44
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I have Sonar Platinum running flawlessly on Windows 10.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 16:23:14
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I did the upgrade from Win7 to Win10 a couple weeks ago and had very few problems - no problems with SONAR that I can remember. I made a Win7 image first just in case things didn't go well. I was thinking that I might do a clean install after the upgrade, but things seem to be running so well that I'm forgoing that hassle. Things seem snappier and I got back about 20G of space after doing disc cleanup. There have been a few quirks but nothing major with Win 10. The advantages have far outweighed the disadvantages. Had a similar pleasant experience on a 2nd laptop not used for SONAR. Bummer though that we had to give up Windows Media Center but I have a 3rd laptop with that and Win8 serving as my DVR.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 16:43:41
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Only on SSD? That's just silly - windows 10 runs just fine on a standard HDD.
yes sadly, the excessive telemetry and spying makes system drive coonstantly being read and/or writing data to it, of course it's not a problem to install Windows 10 even on 5400rpm HDD, but honestly if I should go for Windows 10, then I would definitely install it on SSD, to prevent the problems caused by Win10's very bad optimization for non-SSD drives
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 17:35:20
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No upgrade problems here, everything went as smooth as possible, I highly recommend the windows 10 upgrade!
Purrrfect Audio: Intel i7 7700k (Kabylake), 32Gig DDR4/2133, Windows 10x64 Pro, USB RME Babyface, Sonar Platinum Current
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 17:44:05
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tzzsmk tenfoot Only on SSD? That's just silly - windows 10 runs just fine on a standard HDD.
yes sadly, the excessive telemetry and spying makes system drive coonstantly being read and/or writing data to it, of course it's not a problem to install Windows 10 even on 5400rpm HDD, but honestly if I should go for Windows 10, then I would definitely install it on SSD, to prevent the problems caused by Win10's very bad optimization for non-SSD drivesI'd like to know more about the the excessive telemetry and spying. This is the first I’ve heard about that. It may be happening or it may be other things that are causing the HD's to spin. With my DAW that I upgraded from Win 8, I have that optimized very well, because i was having some mysterious stability problems for months using Win 8. So I went through all the Cakewalk, Sweetwater, and Black Viper optimizations and stopped a lot of the useless spinning. I now have a very stable DAW and I’m using an SSD boot HD ON my other internet computer that I upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10, I do have some mysterious HD spinning, but I’ve attributed to the quirky Firefox and Windows Live Mail. But now you have me wondering if I need to optimize this internet computer in case it’s something else. ON this computer I have a standard SATA HD. Thanks for the info and any additional light you can shine on this.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 18:03:34
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(very long-time lurker here)
I don't think the HD is spinning due to telemetry (i.e. spyware) installed in Windows 10.There must be something else (anti-virus?)
I would however strongly recommend you google "gnu Proprietary Surveillance" and read all the references there - this will help you protect your system and privacy a bit better.
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 18:56:20
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Ruckman65
Hello Rod. The upgrade from 7 to 10 has been flawless for me.
^^^ THIS ^^^
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Re: What's the verdict on Windows 10 with SONAR Platinum?
2016/06/20 18:57:46
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Hello Rod,
I went the route of a "Full Clean Install" and so far it's been two weeks with No problem! I went on the Microsoft site and made a Image file on to a thumb drive, setup the Bio's to boot from the drive and it was a smooth instillation.
The install was on my Samsung SSD and the experience has been great! There was "A Lot" of items that I turned off just so I wouldn't have something "Auto-Load" later or send information to MS so that a Profile could be made for marketing (sharing). I'm coming from Windows 7 and so far, very good results and No problems with Sonar, my system is working great, but of course Win 10 is still new and there will be bugs. A lot of people I know don't like Windows update, so I made that an option if I want to install. No problems with "Drivers", good luck.
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