Piano!!??

That's not Wow! That's Lol! 
The only thing I play on a midi key is 1. One at a time...if I'm forced.
My left hand likes to work turned the other direction. I think it's a mental thing as I can type very fast. 

Can't even do that now. I have the Axiom 61 and naturally they don't know Window's 7 is out. Can't use my midi guitar because Roland doesn't think the GI-20 needs any drivers either. 

I'm about a hair away from selling all this computer stuff and getting another Harley or two. ( and a tape machine, mixer and CD burner.) 

I'm old but I really think the analog days were the way. Musicians had to play it right and the tape didn't lie. 

Grumpy from fighting with all this new stuff...Christmas gave me heartburn this year. Sorry for the rant...kinda. 

Janet


Well, you said something like...it doesn't matter what guitarists say....I do this...sorta thing.  Then you proceeded to write a 13th chord.   Those things irk me to death.  I say, 'just call it a 6th, for pete's sake!!  There's no way in the world most pianists are ever gonna reach a 13th, so get real!!! lol

I understand your grumpyness.  I'm trying to install SW on a new DAW, and true to form, most of it is giving me fits.  This time it's not ALL from user error, but enough of it is to make me tempted to get rid of it all and getting another...well, I have no idea what I'd get.  Not a Harley for sure. lol 

And besides that, drywall dust is drying out my skin big time, and my fingers are raw from sanding the dumb stuff.  So...hang in there!  We're all in this together. :-)

     Em7 to A13 with one hand on piano.

  I call the fingers T 1234

   Em7
      T  B
      1  D
      2  E
      4  G

     A13

     T  G
     1  A
     2  C#
     4   F#

No How

 
That's an adventurous pair of keys.   I bet it's very cool.  Could the problem be tying the two together?  a C chord is a fairly close common denominator if you can sneak it in between the the keys.  It may work in a bridge between.
Also a Db chord (and all it's variations) will work with both.  It's the III in Amajor and the VI in Fminor.
Keep hammering away.  If you can tie those two keys together you've just learned a lot about harmonic theory.
 

 

mgh


no how - i was thinking Db too, also E, with its common G#(Ab) to F minor and of course the dominant to A.

 
 
Hey Rick, Mark - big thanks for the input guys
 
I have a reasonable understanding of music theory so what really interests me when I experiment is trying to find something that isn't orthodox.
 
If you swap the tonality of the two chords to Am and F you'll find a progression that appears everywhere - I just fancied seeing what it would sound like the other way!
 
Another one I like (but I can't make work either ) is to basically take a standard twelve bar blues progression, for example:

• A-A-A-A-D-D-A-A-E-D-A-E7

But instead of using the E and the E7 chords, I've tried playing Eb instead... very much a different animal:

• A-A-A-A-D-D-A-A-Eb-E-D-A-Eb

 
So you're now playing a classic blues progression, but with the 'tritone' interval or the Diabolus in Musica - the use of which is much favoured in many metal genres.
 
I've even tried using Am and Dm with both Eb and then Ebm:

• Am-Am-Am-Am-Dm-Dm-Am-Am-Eb-Dm-Am-Eb
• Am-Am-Am-Am-Dm-Dm-Am-Am-Ebm-Dm-Am-Ebm

I know there's something there but I can't seem to nail it down
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
 

Can't even do that now. I have the Axiom 61 and naturally they don't know Window's 7 is out. Can't use my midi guitar because Roland doesn't think the GI-20 needs any drivers either. I'm about a hair away from selling all this computer stuff and getting another Harley or two. ( and a tape machine, mixer and CD burner.) I'm old but I really think the analog days were the way. Musicians had to play it right and the tape didn't lie. Grumpy from fighting with all this new stuff...Christmas gave me heartburn this year. Sorry for the rant...kinda.

 
... Goodness ... now you sound like me!
 
I got totally frustrated and feel that I got ripped off ... and the software stuff out there is insane and is not for musicians ... it's for geeks and idiots that barely know music ... but want to feel like they are "musicians".
 
I'm waiting for one of these Sonar gods to finally do a piece of music without a drum beat! ... which pretty much tells you how comfortable they are as muciains ... they simply can't flow without the beat or number ... in other words, it's not about the music and its flight! ... and my friends, that is the difference between a Jimi and the rest! ... you gotta fly ... you have to trust that inner flight ... but software is not for that ... never was ...
 
It's bizarre ... Tangerine Dream and AshRaTempel (Manuel Gottshing) were very important in the development of Abelton Live ... and their music is not even close to dependant on 95% of the stuff that you hear with it ... including the "artists" listed on their page ... or Sonar's ... or ... but it tells you that some folks like the freedom ... and too many of those programs are not like the TEAC's of old ... you just recorded the guys and gals ... and enjoyed the music ...
 
I really think that a lot of this software needs to get easier and allow more intuition ... and separate the 10k VST's and samples ... from the real creator ... but in the end, the issue is that most computers are not designed or capable of recording you properly ... and you need a myriad of **** to get to that point ... and kill the feeling of the music, on the way --- because it can't even record what you did properly!

Moshkiae

Can't even do that now. I have the Axiom 61 and naturally they don't know Window's 7 is out. Can't use my midi guitar because Roland doesn't think the GI-20 needs any drivers either. I'm about a hair away from selling all this computer stuff and getting another Harley or two. ( and a tape machine, mixer and CD burner.) I'm old but I really think the analog days were the way. Musicians had to play it right and the tape didn't lie. Grumpy from fighting with all this new stuff...Christmas gave me heartburn this year. Sorry for the rant...kinda.

 
... Goodness ... now you sound like me!
 
I got totally frustrated and feel that I got ripped off ... and the software stuff out there is insane and is not for musicians ... it's for geeks and idiots that barely know music ... but want to feel like they are "musicians".
 
I'm waiting for one of these Sonar gods to finally do a piece of music without a drum beat! ... which pretty much tells you how comfortable they are as muciains ... they simply can't flow without the beat or number ... in other words, it's not about the music and its flight! ... and my friends, that is the difference between a Jimi and the rest! ... you gotta fly ... you have to trust that inner flight ... but software is not for that ... never was ...
 
It's bizarre ... Tangerine Dream and AshRaTempel (Manuel Gottshing) were very important in the development of Abelton Live ... and their music is not even close to dependant on 95% of the stuff that you hear with it ... including the "artists" listed on their page ... or Sonar's ... or ... but it tells you that some folks like the freedom ... and too many of those programs are not like the TEAC's of old ... you just recorded the guys and gals ... and enjoyed the music ...
 
I really think that a lot of this software needs to get easier and allow more intuition ... and separate the 10k VST's and samples ... from the real creator ... but in the end, the issue is that most computers are not designed or capable of recording you properly ... and you need a myriad of **** to get to that point ... and kill the feeling of the music, on the way --- because it can't even record what you did properly!

You know what Mosh, I think you are totally correct. One of the reasons I have not posted any music in my two year journey (so far) into the wonderful world of DAW technology is that I am just not satisfied with what I am producing. Yet in this time I have put together 2 bands and played live all over the south of England (and a couple of shows in Spain) and put together a duo with one of the girl singers in my band to do some of my original material written for my self produced album project and played our first gig at a summer festival last year. When I play live I tweak the sound and more often than not get happy with the sound we are producing, but when I get near my project studio, I am still not conversant enough with the technology to let it flow and get the sound I hear in my head. The two people, the musician and the newbie engineer, are totally at odds with each other. I am not sure how I will reconcile this, but I intend to by, exactly as you say, eschewing some of the more constrictive elements of the technology and simply recording. Even multitracking, who says you have to quantize, work to a metronome, use drum tracks and so on and so on.
 
My favourite chord progression, C, Fmaj7, F, G, C
I often use substitute chords as well in the second and third verses of songs with a strong melody, including one my band call "The Kiosk Chord" which I try to blend in somewhere in every major key song

 
I thought we'd done this recently - same chap posted it again it seems.
 
 
 
 

Beagle
 

there was no punishment intended, strummy!

He he, I've been thinking about this whole 'pun' being used as an abbreviation of 'punishment' in forum shorthand and so I've done some research, just to make sure I'm not a moron.
 
However, whenever I come across the phrase 'no pun intended', there is always a pun there - i.e. it never means 'punishment'.
 
I wonder if Bobby is the only person in the world who thinks 'pun' is forum-speak for 'punishment', and not just the word 'pun'?
 
Now I've thrashed (pun intended) it about, I'm still not sure
 
 
 
 
 
 

wtf?? Did someone hack my account?? I didn't make this thread but I made the other one that seems the same
but is different..

Raba_licious


wtf?? Did someone hack my account?? I didn't make this thread but I made the other one that seems the same
but is different..

 
No hacking - I just remembered it so I checked back down the forum!
 
It's defintely your log-in though.