Bristol_Jonesey

Why don't they sort out all problems first and add stuff (in free upgrades) that people really want

The upgrades to X1a, X1b & X1c were all free.

So will the next round of bug fixes.

Just saying......................

No they weren't, you paid for them, just as you have already paid for the next round.

Just sayin'

I expanded to S1 2 today. But I'll eventually think about buying X2, and see where that leads, when it comes with all the latest and expanded 'plus whatever' upgrades and such. 

I don't mind having more than one DAW or VST, ect... for me making music is all about getting creative results with optimum immediacy and efficiency. My time is valuable, because time is not a renewable resource. Spontaneity does not often wait for updates and troubleshooting work-arounds, or fiddling with malfunctions and limitations. I like a lot of what X1 does, but I'm not bound and tethered to it as if it were an anchor holding me in place.

I have every hope that Sonar will continue to evolve

Kreative


I expanded to S1 2 today. But I'll eventually think about buying X2, and see where that leads, when it comes with all the latest and expanded 'plus whatever' upgrades and such. 

I don't mind having more than one DAW or VST, ect... for me making music is all about getting creative results with optimum immediacy and efficiency. My time is valuable, because time is not a renewable resource. Spontaneity does not often wait for updates and troubleshooting work-arounds, or fiddling with malfunctions and limitations. I like a lot of what X1 does, but I'm not bound and tethered to it as if it were an anchor holding me in place.

I have every hope that Sonar will continue to evolve

+ 1

I got expanded and the PC4K. I'm into cakewalk for thousands already over the years. i hoped it was going somewhere but it continues 2 steps forward and 1 step back. Fix a bit break a bit.

Studio One 2 - now that's smokin with innovation.

I've already expanded to Studio One (right after X1 came out). I gave Cakewalk every chance to get it together. I see posts all the time on these forums about how "You need to set your computer up right", etc.... Bull! Try the Studio One demo (or Cubase, Reaper, etc.). I just can't see how so many folks on these forums seem to think that a crash is no big deal? If Studio One crashed on me even once a month, I'd be looking for another host. I can't imagine a DAW crashing once per project, yet I've seen so many post over the years on these forums where people seem to think that this is OK? Just 'Part of the deal with complicated things such as DAWs'... Really??? Look... I understand that a DAW is a complicated thing, but I again point you to Cubase, Studio One, Reaper, etc... Don't know what I'm talking about? Be honest... I'm pretty sure that Cakewalk know what I'm talking about. I really liked Cakewalk as a company when I invested in SONAR 7. It seems that the Cakewalk I was impressed with back then is not the Cakewalk of today. The Cakewalk back then was innovative, filled with passion, and determined to be 'IT'. What happened? C'mon man... If I want bells and whistles, I can buy Garage Band Ultra Mega Super Sized, Magix Music Maker Extraordinaire, My Magic Songwriter Tonka Edition Elite.... OK.. I'm going a bit overboard here, but seriously, I felt pretty burnt by the SONAR X1 (DAW 2.0!!) upgrade. Knock it off with the marketing crap, and get down to business. X1 is a step in the right direction, but it was released far, far too early IMO. And I'm pretty darned sure that Cakewalk knew it. If they didn't, well.... I'll leave that one alone.

Dappa1


The yearly cycle or greed whatever you want to call it has really caused a real big dent for me. Personally I think that if your going to play games just to get peoples money, (like what they have been doing waving the carrot then sayig they will fix the carrot just to get more money from you) I say that one day you will get your come uppence and I think this day is coming unless Cake start to play fair with their paying customers and not just siphon money out of unaware users of their DAW.

I don't know if Cakewalk realize how perilously close they are to this point.

Well, I certainly won't be buying SONAR X2 (or whatever they call it). They say that SONAR X1 has been the most successful SONAR yet. I  would reckon that is fallacy. The true tale will be told by how many people upgrade from SONAR X1 to whatever the next version is. I haven't totally given up on Cakewalk yet. I'll keep my eye on them, but I certainly won't be upgrading anytime soon. Maybe in a few years.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I downloaded the s1 2 demo and have been playing with it a bit. I think I could get used to its work flow pretty quick and a few things jump out that are nice. Like the separate lanes for the automation. However they do not have a bridge to use the 32 bit vst/i in the 64 bit host. I could buy Jbridge I guess but why. I will play with it some more to see what else it may offer. I have had pretty good luck with stability using Every version before X1 and with the x1c update things seem pretty stable to me. back on topic for this thread: I have not yet updated to x1 expanded. I may but the new stuff will not do a lot for me. As far as the up coming updates go Cake has already stated there will be more unpaid updates to both x1 and x1ex. The fixes they put into the expanded were needed to provide the new functionality IIRC. So no worries it will come. Sorry for the block text I am using Firefox at the moment.

Not upgrading either... Hawky

Expanded, but I don't know what to do with it! Hm, ... is there a new "simple" userguide like on the reaper site? 


Software didn't has to be difficult!Cakewalk Sonar is more and more difficult for me!

Expanded...  small sum to continue to keep bakers in Starbucks/jolt/other legal stimuli.

Incremental but worth it. 

Studio One? Went to their forum hoping for peace, harmony and creative bliss. NOPE! Same bucolic nonsense we have here. So why spend $400 to dance with a new set of problems.

ggg

Here you go Mr Fawlty:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2403055

I did it..I now own the most expensive DAW other than Pro-Tools. Oh yeah, but to do THAT, I'd have to switch to the apple thing, drop my Christianity and worship Steve Jobs, hmmmm, still thinking on that one...

Without starting a new thread...can anyone tell me what X1 has in the way of metering?

thanks

The Studio version wasn't Expanded - so, no option for me. That's OK. X1 is still a toy for me, 8.5 is my real program. RB