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Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
The version 4 update really seems incredibly impressive, to the point of "how did that guy invent this?" Amazing software, for sure. These new upgrade prices are insane WHEN compared to just buying outright as well. Needless to say, my GAS is really being tested to the limit. But after thinking, I really don't use Melodyne that much. I've had "fun" with it, bought Editor upgrade last year, but really haven't delved into the polyphonic stuff either. So with it sitting in my computer for a year, I'd really haven't used it.
I record a lot of VSTi, and I also don't feel the need to really tweak my guitar tracks. Although I know you can get creative. Vocal recording is minimal, so that's probably why I don't use it that much.
So one question... who uses it...and is it for "creative" purposes or for "correctional" reasons?...(or both :-) )
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 10:22:55
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And who will ADMIT to using it? I read an article recently where Alanis Morissette was quoted as saying that she asked her producer once about the prevalence of auto-correcting vocals. Apparently only she and one other singer WEREN'T using it, although some had their vocals corrected without the artist's knowledge.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 10:40:12
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I have never used ANY pitch correction software of ANY kind! The people that I work with are all old school talented vocalists that pride themselves on NOT having to use Auto-tune or any other device to cover bad vocalists. I am very fortunate in that aspect. There is a joke sign on the wall of my project room that says "If You Can't Sing, Please Don't Sing!"
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
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Sidroe
I have never used ANY pitch correction software of ANY kind!
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:01:45
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I'm not dismissing the creative uses either. Some videos really caught my eye using it
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:02:04
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I find it indispensable. However, I can't remember the last time I used it on a lead vocal line?... I use it on backup vocals to create better (more interesting?) harmonies. But I also use it on metal guitar solos. When you play an almost perfect take but there is just one or two flubbed or overly dim notes? Fixing it in a snap, without having to attempt to punch-in during a finger pretzeling note blitz, is a guuuuuurdsend! But my main use for Melodyne has always been sound design! With the Editor version's polyphonic capabilities, it is a playground for sound mangling! How quickly you can slice, shrink, extend, morph and change bits n' pieces, is the programs true strong suit! Which is pretty amazing considering what it was originally intended for? I just purchase the upgrade to Studio and after looking at the videos, I'm not afraid to admit that I needed a wipe down... 
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:07:26
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I forgot to mention, if you're struggling to get the right feel when programming drums and your controller or midi device isn't getting tapped out parts down the way you want? Beat boxing the bits in Melodyne and then converting them to midi to trigger your drum sampler, is a handy and quick way to achieve loose feel drum lines!
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:12:55
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I will stand up and be counted. It can do amazing things for bu vocals and a lead vocal, bass or guitar clam. Rocky
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:23:46
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I use it often to create richer/fuller background harmonies. I have vocalists sing two or three parts, then use Melodyne to create four or five parts, duplicating, raising and lowering the original three. It can sound like I have a dozen or so in the choir.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:23:51
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Fixing bad notes in live performance recordings.
"Tidying" multi-part harmonies.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:30:45
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I used Essential in Sonar X3 Pro twice to play with it. but it seemed so limited that I haven't really used it since.
v4 studio looks like a lot of really cool features but I probably wouldn't really use it. but GAS doesn't prevent me from lusting after it haha.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:39:11
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I use it often but I am not running a commercial studio.
It is not bad in any way to have to use a tool to correct a live take for any reason.
I am a good singer but there are plenty of times I might have missed that high note at the top of my range.
I fix it.
Other times, I may be in tune but I rushed it or came in a touch too late but I like my delivery. So I fix it.
I also like to manually adjust the volume of a word or phrase by editing the blobs. It's very easy in Melodyne.
Now I am totally interested in how Studio 4 does auto tempo generation. This is something I have longed for for decades.
I would be very unhappy not to have Melodyne in my tool kit.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 11:43:12
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Yes sir, me sir. Along with most every other producer on planet Earth. And please don't kid yourself. Melodyne and Autotune are used on even the best of singers if only for minor tweaks. It is used just like you would use a compressor or an eq or any other processor...to enhance the recorded performance. If you are not using it or its equivalent on your singer you're shortchanging them. Why not just stick an SM57 in front of the artist(s) and record every instrument and vocal directly to a wax cylinder? Sheesh.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:01:12
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Ol Pal is right...
It makes it easier for the vocalist to relax to know that they CAN miss and still
be ok...and reduces the number of takes the Recording Engineer has to capture
and comp...
Granted, some singers just "have it", but, when making an album, and trying to keep
the costs to minimum, this is, by far, the best tool for the job...and only logical to use
it...even it you don't use it to make any adjustments...at least you can "see" what the singer
did, and where the notes landed...
But, hey, that's just me...it's a tool, like anything else...and you can either use it or not...
that's your choice...
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:04:02
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One use for editor not yet mentioned is converting to midi. Sometimes I have musicians over who record originals and I want to add tracks later that I play.
I convert the performance to midi. Then, I can easily change tempo without changing pitch, learn the part, then resume the original tempo and add my tracks.
I'm planning on the upgrade. I agree with the op that I don't get a lot of use out of it. And when I use it, I have to relearn how it works.
One of my constraints is always isolation. You can't pitch correct a guitar tone that is also going in the drum Mics.
Sure is tempting to be able to fix the same pitch across a set of tracks. And I feel no shame in making a great recording people like listening to by using a tool like Melodyne. Frankly I'm way more interested in the synth like controls in version 4. I love to distort and make weird sounds.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:31:19
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Use it, yes. Indispensable, no.
My usage has steadily decreased since I first got it back in 2006. At first I went overboard - and have some embarrassing Kanye-esque yodeling to remind me of my past excesses. But for the last 4 or 5 years, I've used it only rarely, typically to correct a previously unnoticed error after the fact.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:34:39
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If you EVER heard a raw vocal of mine you'd know why I use Melodyne.  IIRC I've only released one track of mine where I not only did the vocal from top to bottom but I did not need to pitch correct anything. It was a perfect storm for me.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:35:32
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+1 to most of the above. I've used it many times for lead and background vocal pitch correction and minor timing adjustment, for minor harmony changes when a note doesn't seem right after all, for dragging audio to MIDI tracks for synth doubling/reinforcement, and on occasion for purely creative purposes (something I should do more ). Yeah, I'm a Melodyne fan. Good thing the intro offer on v4 lasts until April.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 12:40:06
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I'll be all over the E2->S4 upgrade next week. I'm chomping at the bit.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 13:19:49
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I use it almost all the time. Everybody has a moment where they miss a note. But, for me, the strengths, other than pitch correction, are the ability to change the timing of a word, as well as stretch a single note. I think it's an amazing piece of software.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 13:22:54
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I'll be all over the E2->S4 upgrade next week. I'm chomping at the bit.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 14:06:21
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I use it all the time, and with my vocals it's indispensable. And not just for pitch correction.
I don't enunciate lyrics very well so I get notes that are held too long or too loud or too much emphasis on a syllable or a held note is too warbly.
Usually I can correct those things with Melodyne fairly quickly. But I do get some pretty bad artifacts once in a while too so then I'll have to redo that section.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 15:07:12
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I am not afraid to admit that I like Melodyne and I use it. I was very excited by the news of this new version. I will definitely buy it when I can afford it.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 17:11:41
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Yes sir, me sir. Along with most every other producer on planet Earth. And please don't kid yourself. Melodyne and Autotune are used on even the best of singers if only for minor tweaks. It is used just like you would use a compressor or an eq or any other processor...to enhance the recorded performance. If you are not using it or its equivalent on your singer you're shortchanging them. Why not just stick an SM57 in front of the artist(s) and record every instrument and vocal directly to a wax cylinder? Sheesh.
Hopefully you're not assuming I'm dissing using Melodyne. In fact quite the opposite and my 1st post hopefully showed that. I'm actually more interested in hearing about the "creative" uses (polyphonic mode, etc), versus the time and pitch correction or altering. When I use a synth like Z3Ta, I'm not finding a need for it on that track, as an example. However, making MIDI with Melodyne might offer some great input for my Z3Ta tracks....as a "for instance". Thx for all the replies so far!
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 18:27:17
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Yes sir, me sir. Along with most every other producer on planet Earth. And please don't kid yourself. Melodyne and Autotune are used on even the best of singers if only for minor tweaks. It is used just like you would use a compressor or an eq or any other processor...to enhance the recorded performance. If you are not using it or its equivalent on your singer you're shortchanging them. Why not just stick an SM57 in front of the artist(s) and record every instrument and vocal directly to a wax cylinder? Sheesh.
Hopefully you're not assuming I'm dissing using Melodyne. In fact quite the opposite and my 1st post hopefully showed that. I'm actually more interested in hearing about the "creative" uses (polyphonic mode, etc), versus the time and pitch correction or altering. When I use a synth like Z3Ta, I'm not finding a need for it on that track, as an example. However, making MIDI with Melodyne might offer some great input for my Z3Ta tracks....as a "for instance".
Thx for all the replies so far!
Absolutely... aside from pitch and timing corrections, that's one of my favorite uses! It's so easy to drag an audio clip to a instrument track and then see how different synths/patches can augment the corresponding recorded audio track - without having to play (or my case figure out) every note of the original audio. I can find better and more creative things to do with my time. 
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 18:57:58
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I use it on my guitar tracks all the time. I can take a great take with just one clam and turn it into a gem! I've changed a single note, changed a scale or tightened up timing. Definitely part of my workflow now.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/15 20:54:48
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I don't do vocals but I've used it for converting to midi. I had an old orchestra project that was done in Sonar using Gigastudio. Unfortunately I lost the midi files but the audio is still there.
Live's audio to midi conversion is on par with Melodyne.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/16 12:14:44
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Frank Sinatra, Patsy Clyne didn't have or need Melodyne. This old geezer does! Also need to pitch correct my son's trumpet parts. Normally he' spot on playing live, but put a set of headphones on and he's just a hair out of tune...
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/16 12:53:40
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Back up vocals almost every time.
I have used it as well to crisp up timing on rhythm guitar parts.
I use it like salt...not too much, but when it is not there I can taste it.
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Re: Who really uses Melodyne and considers it indispensable?
2016/01/16 17:01:41
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Pitch to MIDI is very useful. Sing a melody, convert to MIDI and send it to a synth. I have also used it (editor) to covert things I played on my mountain dulcimer to MIDI.
Editor could be useful if you use loops. You could for example edit a guitar loop to change a major chord to a minor.
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