for me lower the price and take out the fanthom .

The same thing happened with me and the Fantom. Wasn't sure about it at first, but now I love it.

Scott

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ya i know... you missed me... lol just thought I'd drop one...

i bought the 700 system because i liked the look of a larger console. i know this sounds like a "Jones"  thing to say but it's kind of embarrassing to say... " look at my studio"  and all that's sitting there is a tiny little io box and a laptop... i guess I'm old but that's not a studio that's your computer.  that and i'm used to consoles... the bigger the better i say.  one nob for one job... to me it's way less confusing.  all that layered crap drives me insane.  i think maybe that's what Roland had in mind when designing the thing... make it look more like a professional studio than your sister's laptop.  if your that worried about having  too large of a console... well i say... "it's just not Cristian"  lol.  i wish the thing had 48 faders with a fully functioning eq section on each channel and a full meter bridge on top.  good god man... it's really the knobs, dials, leds, and all that other cool crap that you should be demanding... not... i'd like to  pay a massive amount of money for some gay little gadget(i-phone) that will fit in my pocket...  i choose to have my daw replace the reel to reels,  not my recording experience.  truthfully... the 700c pretty much just sits there looking cool anyways.  i still spend most of my time on the real console with the transport.  as for the edits(very few of them), it's easier to point and click. 

i know you missed me didn't you

sorry one comment about the vstudio....  i think some one else mentioned it... yah... get rid of the phantom... it's gay!  i don't care if you lower the price.

sorry one comment about the vstudio.... i think some one else mentioned it... yah... get rid of the phantom... it's gay!

 
Smoochy, where ya been dude? You know a hardware synth has no sex. It depends on the player and his choice of voices and playing style to supply the sex element. Hmmm.

You know, I haven't gone through the console controls yet when the Fantom is the topmost window. So, I don't know if the patch change thing is possible from the console. Right now I'm dealing with life and strife but as soon as I'm clear I'll look into it. I'm still working on organizing the complex set of voices I've selected. The Fantom Synth is an amazing Synthesizer. If you've studied all the pages involved in the construction of just one voice in the Fantom, you'll soon see that the Fantom can teach you much about the subject. All the negative hype about the Fantom Synth is pure B*llsh*t. The amount of sound structuring possible in the Fantoms pages is amazing. I have hit the 128 voice limit on several ocassions. In my attempts to see what is possible. I wish I had some finished examples to make public but they're not complete yet due to my own limitations. I know everyone is afraid of the price and they are reluctant to purchase because they haven't been able to test-play with the unit. Well all I can tell you "big boys" is if you can use the Fantom to it's full ability, I'll kiss your A**. 

nice,good,i'm pleased with you .

Yeah, that made sense.

Crg

CONCLUSION Despite my [ hopefully-objective-and sincerely-good-willed-critical-comments ] I am still having trouble dismissing it as my "ultimate-long-term" DAW controll

 
Well, the headphone and main controls being dependent on the V700R is only partially true because you can configure those buttons I beleive to control Sonars controls for such. But why would you need them when you already have faders for everything on the V700C? Admitedly, they are a conveinance when used with the V700R, along with the AUX input.
Perhaps it's just a money thing for you at this point but the V700R is a great interface and well worth the money in my humble opinion.

Ditto