joakes
V Control with Ney-Fi is much more reliable than AC7 plus rtpmidi (agreed, that only works occasionally)

And i don't remember forking out 50$ every year for V-Control 😜

V-Control Pro version 2 is now a $50/year subscription and requires ilok.

pwalpwal

Anderton
It's not some idiot, it's the same idiot from Australia who comes in here periodically, using a variety of alts, to dump on SONAR and the forum community.

fwiw, what i don't understand is why the forum "hosts" don't use their hostly powers to delete off-topic posts and ban regular ot posters? it would make for a much tidier forum... as it stands, they tend to just answer the regular should-be-in-a-faq type questions, and sometimes move posts to other forums... but, i supoose, it is what it is...

Why because that post in particular did not violate any rule that would trigger a ban or a delete. It was a close call on my part but as much as I wanted to act I restrained myself because I believe we can handle a little disruption. I value freedom and as much free speech as we can tolerate. I'm sorry it was my inaction that you may be upset with.
 
However I don't believe any real harm was done by that poster. He only made himself look silly.  

I use my iPad more than the desktop these days except for time using Sonar. With that said, YES, I want Sonar apps to control my desktop but even more for remote recording. I think it will be offered in the future, I realize it would be a sizable undertaking with all the cool things we're getting now. But count another user in support of Sonar related apps!

LJB
Anyone who spends as much time as I using a mouse starts running into physical issues like numb wrists and sore shoulders - most of those are to do with the unnatural position one has to be in when holding a mouse for 10 hours a day. I have been looking at getting a touch screen for my main monitor (a'la Raven 2.0) just to have more physical movement in the day, but I'm not having any luck finding an affordable option.

Touch control via a monitor is not a panacea. First of all not everything in SONAR responds to touch. For example you can't move clips around with touch, and there's still no touch-based right-click option. Also, you need to accept some changes in your physical layout. I have my touch monitor laid flat but angled up slightly, like a hardware mixer. At least for me, a touchscreen doesn't work set it up vertically like a standard monitor because your arms have to spend so much time elevated to touch the screen. However the "pseudo-mixer" setup is great, because I don't have to keep bending my neck backward to look up at a vertical monitor. 
 
What the touch monitor does best for me is allow two-hand control. I work the mouse with my left hand for "fine" control and use the right hand for the touch gestures. The main advantage this has is speeding up workflow, and it does require less mousing around. I also have a second traditional monitor where I park things like plug-ins and VIs.
 
As to whether Cakewalk will develop a remote, I have no idea. PreSonus already had the nuts and bolts in place for controlling StudioLive, so they just needed to adapt what they had for Studio One. Yamaha already had apps for synth control surface applications so again, it didn't take much to adapt that to Cubase. As to Logic, if anyone knows how to write an iPad app, it's Apple. I assume Cakewalk would need a separate team to do a remote, or contract a third party to create one. Particularly in the latter case, the company would have to decide if they would sell enough remotes to cover the cost of a third-party developer. I suspect the answer would be no, but they'd have to do some research to find out. They'd also need to find out if people would be disappointed if other features/fixes weren't implemented in its stead.
 
 

LJB, I'm doing a separate post about RSI so it doesn't get lost. I've spent decades in front of computers using keyboards and mice and have not had RSI problems (at least not yet ). With the advent of USB it's easy to have more than one "human interface device." Plug in a trackball and a mouse, then alternate between the two. Cutting the number of repetitive gestures in half by distributing all your gestures over two devices can really help. 

Paul P 
Bruce's (tenfoot) use of a tablet is pretty amazing, but I don't see that as a common requirement for Sonar use.  A simple app similar to a TranzPort controller would probably make most people happy (I'd prefer a hardware version myself).

 
For me the main function of a touchscreen/tablet controller is that I can move multiple mixer track and bus pans and faders at the same time like a hardware console. Some things are much easier to do when you're not restricted to moving one control at a time.
 
I use an iPad for this because I've got an iPad :-)
 
Also because using a touch screen like a mixing console means switching off touch gestures in the operating system otherwise chaos results. I prefer to leave the OS settings alone and just turn off gestures on the iPad.
 

Not sure if this is what you mean by a simplified Now time indicator, but although it appears that the Big Time allows only point sizes up to 72, you can type in point sizes up to 144.
 

 
 

subtlearts
 
Back on topic, I saw recently that Wild Blue Sound is releasing a control platform for their Orbit and Eclipse instruments that is based on the Lemur app - which is expensive as apps go but seems solid and crazy flexible, likely more so than TouchDaw or other free/cheap options. It is likely a whole lot easier to program a template for Lemur and take advantage of their established system, than to code a dedicated platform from scratch. Of course users would have to buy the app, but we would get a bunch of other possibilities into the bargain. Anyone checked it out?

 

Marcus mentioned Lamur a couple of posts back:
 

mdages
I'm using Lemur App on Android tablet. I know, Lemur is almost a Midi Controller but this beast is very flexible and Sonar is capable to remote control many things by midi.
 
Such a tablet solution is usable for all of us sitting alone in studio and in recording room. Ok, walking hundred times from studio to rec-room and back is nice for feet muscles, but brain frustrating.
 
A nice idea would be some voice controlled commands for Sonar, maybe a little bit Siri to Sonar?
 
Markus

 
 I checked it out and there seems to be just one template in ipad resolution for Sonar. Whether that could be loaded in the Android version I don't know.  
 
The app looks great.  Maybe Marcus will chime back in to give some more details on how he uses it with Sonar,. 

For remote control of Sonar I have been using Team Viewer on a Fire HD6. The program running on the main daw is duplicated on the hd fire. You are forced to use the mouse cursor on the HD Fire, but I can control anything I can control on the main daw with the Fire HD. You get no sound from the Fire HD, but what ever can be controlled in the daw can be controlled by the Fire, which with Team Viewer the daw is acting like a server to the  Fire HD, and it works great. I learned about this here.

I posted this s few years back

Well - I purchased the Custom keypad - bout £2.50 - there's a version for ipad and iphone..

I then installed the free "tightvnc" on my computer.   Selected portfwarding on my router for VNC.



Now the only 2 niggles I had was.... the custom keypad has a problem sending capitals..

It also has problem with the shift key so using ctrl+shift+1 to get a whole note in score view was worked around by doing ctrl+!   .

I've only had this for a brief time so the icons I have created are note perfect to look at yet...  

For notation users it adds the ability to select rhythm values which is missing...   Its seems possible  make keystrokes for dotted rhythms too - which I will have a look at ...


  



Trying to make shortcuts for screensets soon...

 

Hope images appear

Thatsastrat
For remote control of Sonar I have been using Team Viewer on a Fire HD6. The program running on the main daw is duplicated on the hd fire. You are forced to use the mouse cursor on the HD Fire, but I can control anything I can control on the main daw with the Fire HD. You get no sound from the Fire HD, but what ever can be controlled in the daw can be controlled by the Fire, which with Team Viewer the daw is acting like a server to the  Fire HD, and it works great. I learned about this here.

That's absolutely brilliant!

mdages
A nice idea would be some voice controlled commands for Sonar, maybe a little bit Siri to Sonar?

 
VoiceAttack will give you all that and more for very little outlay, but it's still a bit gimmicky at the end of the day.  I think the point here is that 'options' should be the key - everyone works in a different way and if Sonar provides flexibility to accommodate that then it should.
 
On my setup I have 3 screens, an X-Touch controller, and an additional wireless mini-keyboard that sits on my main midi controller keyboard to save me twisting at 90 degrees to change patches or transport.  I don't really need an app in addition, but it could be useful for some.  Spectrasonics have a great app that sits alongside Omnisphere to give control over the multi's as well as the Orb.
 
I'd like to see the obvious transport controls in a Sonar app, but also something more innovative such as sliders for eq, panning, ACT for synth filters etc.  That would be great for automation writing.
 
I also predict that before the year is out people are going to be asking for Rift and Vive support.  Anyone fancy something like 'Fract OSC' as a genuine DAW?
 

Now that Humatic has updated their (ugly) TouchDAW product to include a better GUI (they call is pseudo hardware) I am now much more willing to use it. It's shallow, perhaps, but we've been spoiled by great GUI's, and it's one of the things that I find depressing about using Logic Pro X; and I cheer up when I'm back in SONAR.
 
TouchDAW runs well on my 2011 vintage 10-inch Toshiba Android tablet that connects through WiFi to SONAR.  So far, it seems the time display when stopped is 200ms off from the Windows/SONAR displayed time, but other than that, the responsiveness seems good with the new (beta) mnet driver.  I haven't yet tested long enough to make any observations about stability. 
 
All of this remote stuff (I also use the X32 app called Mixing Station) is leading me to buy a 13.3-inch Android tablet to fully take advantage of the workflow options this offers.  
 
My parochial view of the top two things the Bakers should make is as follows:

• Dedicated Android and iPad remote apps that do a large fraction of what TouchDAW does, but offering a high quality integration of ProChannel remote control along with convenient use of FX Chain VST's within the ProChannel.
• A Virtual Mix Engine that takes over two or more cores like a hypervisor, to run VST's and ultimately super low-latency (sub-millisecond) ASIO devices.  Take a cue from what Pyramix does.

Lets not forget a windows app for remote control of Sonar.

No Paul. After using the Studio One remote for Windows and touch its clear to me that an app designed for the job is the proper way to do this.  In the picture I posted I only showed one screen. There are others that control all sorts of things. From sends to FX to in and outs. It has very little to no documentation yet its very intuitive and easy to use. Only an app that is thoughtfully created to do the single job of remotely controlling a powerful DAW is going to do the job properly. That is what Studio One Remote is. 
 
I have tried many other general purpose apps for controlling Sonar and none of them are worth the hassle.