Myriad_Rocker
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 15:36:34
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If this has already been posted, I apologize. According to this link, Windows 7 supports multi-touch. Way more than the 10 digits that are on your hands. :D I bought a touchscreen not all that long ago. I sold my Mackie control and got it while I still could. The way I figure it, once touchscreens become more accepted, it'll be the way to go. That being said, I haven't had the chance to mess with it with the holidays. I've hooked it up, but haven't tested it out.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 15:48:22
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Still have to do the hardware upgrade for this... Current hardware still working nicely....
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 16:17:29
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bandso
As much as I'd like to have a MTx I'm not going to drop $30K even if it is one of the coolest new tool around. NewEgg.com has 46" touch screen monitors for as low as 23 hundred. Give that a few years and they will be under a grand.
It's not "$30k it's $3500. Big difference.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 21:55:21
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I too am an early adopter of Touch Screen and SONAR... it works great by the way. I have 2 touch monitors (a 23 inch and a 27 inch) both from ASUS (very nice monitors BTW and not too expensive).
At first, the novelty of touch intrigued me but now after about 6 months with this setup, I still find myself using the mouse MORE then the TOUCH features. It's more than just habit, I realize the precision tweaking of knobs is easier with a MOUSE versus TOUCH.
I am using WIN 8 and Xc. I also use a SURFACE RT as a remote desktop for tracking sessions, where in the mouse is OUT and I have to rely on keyboard shortcuts to control the transport during tracking. The RT screen is too small for precision TOUCH moves but this beats walking back and forth to the DAW PC to start and end tracking sessions.
So, despite the WOW factor of having touch, I have to say that the mouse and keyboard shortcut combination is my preferred method of working with SONAR. Glad I found this out without buying a SLATE multi K setup. :-)
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 22:04:43
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 22:50:27
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4K has to go cheaper first ,then we start talking touchscreen.
Nothing less can work good with today`s DAWs,too many small boxes.
My humble opinion.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/01 23:49:18
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Im not sure if 4k will catch on in th manstream enough to lower price. 3d tvs have been a total failure so far. We are still tweaking delivery of hd content.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/02 01:20:22
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MacFurse
As much as I 'want' to stay touchscreen, (the reason I bought my all in one touchscreen desktop), after losing many weeks of work due to a bug that crawled across the screen and deleted a complete project!!!!!!!!!, I have resisted the urge to return to that work environment.
This one is news to me! I've been concerned about accidental touches (not using a TS yet) , but I've never come to think about an actual bug being able to do such damage. If this can really happen, living in the countryside, it sure is one more reason to wait and see. Well, I'm aware of crawlers of respectable size in city flats as well. Does anyone have any idea of how big a bug you need to edit your projects anew?
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/02 01:40:21
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Just got a Dell touchscreen - 21.5 inches. It tilts almost flat, so it has replaced my 61 key keyboard underneath my big (non-touch) screen - right underneath. I double the screen so they each show the same thing. I've gotten familiar w/ D & B shortcuts (when I used 2 screens stretched I floated the dock on screen 2) and a slim browser to the right of the track view.
I'm still on windows 7 so props to the link above about touch 7. I'll dig into that tomorrow, time willing.
As several people have remarked, it is an adjunct to mouse and keys, not a replacement. So far, I've found it great for the alchemy performance pad. Now, if I can figure out how to record those movements in SONAr. Touch does work great w/ softsynths & effects w/ lots o' knobs. Most of the other stuff I'm still working the old fashioned way. A mouse does give better fine control, but I can switch easily from right hand on the touch w/ my left over the space bar for start/stop. I'm sure we'll all figure out our optimum way of working.
It would be nice of Cake to walk us through a video using touch, not working on a project but methodologies of using touch for certain features.
Touch is here but still evolving - glad Cake is on the cutting edge. A lot of things are just more natural w/ touch.
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bandso
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/04 04:59:20
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/04 09:30:16
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I don't know... I think touch is an interesting idea, but you have to LOOK at the screen. With 'knobs' etc it's by feel - in the same sense I can't imagine playing 'touch guitar' or 'touch keyboard'.
I think work needs to be done on what touch really works well for - and that may be a subset of 'everything you can do with a mouse'.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/04 09:44:18
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cityrat
I don't know... I think touch is an interesting idea, but you have to LOOK at the screen. With 'knobs' etc it's by feel - in the same sense I can't imagine playing 'touch guitar' or 'touch keyboard'.
The greatest part of touch is I touch what I want to automate. The controllers don't always map to what you need at that moment. I think that with ACT the controllers map very fast and about as well as you could hope, but still, you monkey around when you change to a VST or back to the Console or to Track View. When I touch something on the screen I get what I'm after. I'm able to control the variance fairly well. there are times when values flicker high and low or something while I change a parameter, but that's something that happens far less with practice. For me, I tend to use touch or use the mouse. I don't switch quickly back and forth. I love touch when I am actually playing my guitar or keyboard. Switching from the instrument to the mouse is much clunkier than just touching the screen. I also like it for adjusting faders. I have used it some on the fly out EQs and it does work, but I am more likely to EQ with the mouse while mixing. I find touch hard on some plugins like the BlueTube plugs. They have buttons too small to use touch with. I repeatedly stab at the buttons with my big fingers and get frustrated. I'm very fast with a mouse, so it doesn't take much frustration for me to switch to the mouse. I do a ton of envelope automation, so not being able to work with envelopes is a touch constraint which pushes me to the mouse. Once I sit back and put my hand on the mouse, it takes a while before I switch back to touch. ************************************ Touch is tons of fun with a friend! ************************************ Read this as you want. :-) Using touch makes it possible for two people to tweak a mix together in a really fun and cooperative way.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/16 11:51:02
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Any recommendations for a large touch screen monitor?
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/16 14:10:35
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Define large.
Also, touch monitors come with different numbers of concurrent touch points.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Why isn't there more hype about SONAR and touchscreens?!
2014/01/16 17:58:37
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dubdisciple
Im not sure if 4k will catch on in th manstream enough to lower price. 3d tvs have been a total failure so far. We are still tweaking delivery of hd content.
I think we'll see 4k touch pretty soon with the competing tablet/phone markets and the development of the Oculus Rift. Tablets require very high resolution touch at the under $500 price point and the Oculus Rift needs 4l since it's so close to your face. IMHO, 3dTV was a failure because consumers don't like wearing something on their faces to consume media. I'm fairly certain 4x will catch on pretty quickly.
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