jbow
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 18:44:14
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bapu
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Word.
2003 was my fav but I am on 2013 at home and 2010 at the office.
The DAW uses open office.
Should this be moved to the Computers forum now?
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 18:51:11
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jbow
bapu
yorolpal
Word.
2003 was my fav but I am on 2013 at home and 2010 at the office.
The DAW uses open office.
Should this be moved to the Computers forum now?
You're collective silliness is endless and seems to finally be making me smile. You folks are relentless. lol
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SteveStrummerUK
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 19:04:11
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☄ Helpfulby jbow 2015/02/15 20:27:39
Beepster
Again, guys... please don't take this out on John. This is not his fault...
With all due respect Beep, this is all about John. Whether or not the thread should have been locked is one thing. But to me, what's more important here is that we now have a situation whereby a host, who virtually never sets foot in here, now has the authority to moderate a community he knows nothing about, and furthermore, is on record publicly announcing his distain for. That is not a healthy situation, and to be honest, it stinks. Like I said in post #4, I'd love to know how our 'own' three hosts stand on this. How on earth can they be happy with this preposterous and plainly laughable state of affairs. I know for a fact that when we've discussed the possibility of user-moderators before, John's name came up again and again as the one man nobody seemed in favour of. If I remember correctly, at least one of our three 'CH hosts' actually said something along the lines that they would leave the forums if John was ever made a mod. And now we have the bizarre situation that this same person has not only not left the forum, that person is actually happily working alongside John. Well, all I can say is that if the rest of you (apart from those who support me on this) are happy to be pushed around and have your words and actions censored by this man, then more fool you all. You'll end up with the forum you deserve.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 19:27:48
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I think the intent was to have him dealing mostly with the main Sonar forum. He is quite good at getting n00bs up and running and feeling welcome. He was one of the first people to greet me when I stumbled in here freaking out about how "MY THING!!! IT NO WERK!! HALP?!!". He got me sorted quite quickly and without making me feel like an idgit (and I really REALLY was an idgit at that point... now I'm just a gidget). In other sections it's obvious he's a controversial character (and I won't speculate as to why... that was all before my time) but he seems liked in the Sonar forum. I really don't get the impression he's out to get anybody either. I mean, if he were I'd imagine it would be more apparent by now. As to what was said by the other hosts... I have no frame of reference for that so I honestly have no idea what's up there.
Anyway... I've said it before. They should have stuck with the original plan of having certain people dealing with certain sections of the site. I don't know why they scrapped that idea.
That's all I'll say on that because I know it's a hot button issue. Just thought maybe as someone who hangs out "upstairs" regularly I'd offer up an alternate perspective. I don't really expect to change any minds.
Cheers.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 20:36:56
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SteveStrummerUK
Beepster
Again, guys... please don't take this out on John. This is not his fault...
With all due respect Beep, this is all about John.
Whether or not the thread should have been locked is one thing. But to me, what's more important here is that we now have a situation whereby a host, who virtually never sets foot in here, now has the authority to moderate a community he knows nothing about, and furthermore, is on record publicly announcing his distain for.
That is not a healthy situation, and to be honest, it stinks.
Like I said in post #4, I'd love to know how our 'own' three hosts stand on this. How on earth can they be happy with this preposterous and plainly laughable state of affairs.
I know for a fact that when we've discussed the possibility of user-moderators before, John's name came up again and again as the one man nobody seemed in favour of. If I remember correctly, at least one of our three 'CH hosts' actually said something along the lines that they would leave the forums if John was ever made a mod. And now we have the bizarre situation that this same person has not only not left the forum, that person is actually happily working alongside John.
Well, all I can say is that if the rest of you (apart from those who support me on this) are happy to be pushed around and have your words and actions censored by this man, then more fool you all. You'll end up with the forum you deserve.
Yes... you are correct. Something is wrong and it could be fixed but it probably wont be. It didn't seem like a good idea at the time so here we are. Maybe we need a new sub forum, the Bier Haus. Like I said, just put my junk where it goes.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 21:33:48
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☄ Helpfulby Karyn 2015/02/16 05:14:04
Are we seriously going to chase behind every post John moderates on a power abuse witch hunt? Yes, there was probably no need to lock a thread that had basically worked itself out, but there was even less need to make a minor case like this be a referendum on whether John has the right to moderate in CH. Cakewalk evidently gave him the green light, so that answers itself. To continuously chase down his posts that you are not even directly involved in to keep repeating the same mantra of "forum hosts are evil" that you have been chanting since before they were made active seems like white whale chasing. We get it. you don't like the idea of forum hosts and you like John even less. Duly noted. You say it's not personal, but it sounds highly personal and a case of serious sour grapes.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 21:40:24
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bapu
yorolpal
Word.
2003 was my fav but I am on 2013 at home and 2010 at the office.
The DAW uses open office.
Agree...I use Open Office here...much better. Sorry Beep...this, IMHO, IS John's fault. Just too fast and too arbitrary on pulling the trigger. I really wish he would weigh in here with his reasoning. I'm willing to hear his argument.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 22:26:39
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I have no problem with John as a host moderating here or anywhere.
And if he, or any host, occasionally errs on the side of excessive caution it's no big deal. It's not like any discussions here are of such terrible importance that an occasional thread getting locked matters.
But there's nothing wrong with pointing out that a hosts action might occasionally be a bit overzealous for the circumstances at hand. I don't expect the hosts to always be just exactly perfect and as long as they are willing to work with us I just don't see a problem.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 22:41:16
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jbow
bapu
yorolpal
Word.
2003 was my fav but I am on 2013 at home and 2010 at the office.
The DAW uses open office.
Should this be moved to the Computers forum now?
You're collective silliness is endless and seems to finally be making me smile. You folks are relentless. lol
Your. YOUR!
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 22:57:16
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Actually I think "you are collective silliness" is a pretty good description of us. 
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Godling
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 23:16:00
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"Your!"... sigh. When are they gonna take spell checking to the next level and implement 'context' checking damnit!
/grumbles something about telling mom... walks off pouting ;)
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/15 23:18:51
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Godling
"Your!"... sigh. When are they gonna take spell checking to the next level and implement 'context' checking damnit!
/grumbles something about telling mom... walks off pouting ;)
I'm pretty sure my iPhone tries that and fails miserably.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 02:24:06
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 Oh you guys! Bobbie Er, I mean Carissa
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 09:38:07
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Well we had one apology, things got sorted out, a new member to Cakewalk and hes a pretty big man to admit it publicly and to mover forward. I think u/Godling will fit in just fine.
Now do you think IF a host made a mistake about something***, they would admit it?
**like, say, oh, banding or locking a thread...
Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 09:40:01
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craigb
Oh you guys!
Bobbie Er, I mean Carissa
nice try bobby.. actually "jessie" wasn't bobbie, a little searching found jessie samlier posting in some other forums(not CW) admitting their gender confusion.
Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 12:59:04
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Ham N Egz
actually "jessie" wasn't bobbie
True, Bobby had nowhere near the wit to camouflage himself like that. Every one of his umpteen personas was obviously 'him' as soon as he typed anything.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 13:04:28
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 13:17:33
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 13:39:48
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Ham N Egz
Now do you think IF a host made a mistake about something***, they would admit it?
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/16 17:03:14
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SteveStrummerUK
Ham N Egz
Now do you think IF a host made a mistake about something***, they would admit it?
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 02:19:26
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Ham N Egz
Now do you think IF a host made a mistake about something***, they would admit it?
i bet that happens before an irrational forum members owns up to being so. i have seen forum hosts admit to errors. i have had forum hosts send me messages to explain why they took a course of action i have not agreed with. What i have not seen is anyone proclaim "I'm a crotchety whiner who can't accept change and will complain about it every chance i get as long as i can get people to join in". The boo hooing about forum hosts is even sillier than the bizarre war on IK. If a thread getds moved or closed...so what...so the **** what. make another one. When my life gets to be so hollow that a thread on a a forum being closed upsets me enough to go on repeated rants, just shoot me, please! All this talk about "power abuse" is absurd. Forum hosts have about as much authority as a crossing guard or mall security. Sure, they have a badge of sorts but it just ain't the same as being a police officer.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 02:31:26
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Ok, here goes!  "I'm a crotchety whiner who can't accept change and will complain about it every chance I get as long as I can get people to join in!" Unfortunately, I've never been able to get people to join in... 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 02:34:35
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craigb
Ok, here goes!
"I'm a crotchety whiner who can't accept change and will complain about it every chance I get as long as I can get people to join in!"
Unfortunately, I've never been able to get people to join in...
It's very easy on these forums. it's like watching lemmings ;)
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Karyn
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 06:26:38
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 06:58:19
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Karyn
Post by Paulo deleted.
Yes, humour must not be tolerated here. Well done.
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Karyn
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 07:00:45
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It was not humour, as you well know.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 07:17:31
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Karyn
It was not humour, as you well know.
Absolutely was - but hey, you clearly know me better than I know myself. Well Done.
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 09:30:17
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I'm a crochety whiner, but my whining is generally confined to things that only bother me. I moan and fuss like a toddler when my bagel falls face down on my lap. When I can't reach the remote without getting up, I wail like a mewling infant. I complain whenever my brain itches and I can't scratch it without a coat hanger.
I usually don't whine about things that bother others. Forum hostiness doesn't bother me. If something I wrote was deleted or moved, I might PM the host(s) to inquire about it, but that would be the end of it. The way that I look at it, I'm just surprised I'm allowed in here in the first place. That doesn't happen often.
Hang on. My coffee is cold. (throws head back and moans theatrically) Why does this always happen to me? Why? For the love of all that is warm and caffeinated, is it asking too much to demand that my coffee remain at the perfect sipping temperature indefinitely? Is it? Now I have to walk all the way across the room to the coffee pot to pour another mug. I can't stand it. This is too much to bear. My day is ruined! Ruined, I tell you!
Ok, I've got a refill. I'll take a sip and try to put this behind me. Ow! It's too hot! Why does this always happen to me? Why? (puts head on desk and kicks feet) Why?...
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 09:31:36
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Here we go again...... BTW Karyn, my pithy comment was not directed at you , Heck you know if I saw you in a pub I would chat you up and buy you a pint and we would talk ham radio and guns, and nary a word about this place.. 
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Re: Why was this thread locked?
2015/02/17 09:39:31
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Ham N Egz
Heck you know if I saw you in a pub I would chat you up and buy you a pint and we would talk ham radio and guns, and nary a word about this place..
One of these days our shack will be finished then there might be a chance of a rag chew. dah di dah
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