Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface?

Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Author
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/07 15:33:44 (permalink)
I would like to keep the Saffire Pro 40, if I had one, but I have the original Saffire from 10 years ago.

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#31
Pragi
Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1120
  • Joined: 2010/09/19 11:46:59
  • Location: Village of the sun
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/08 11:03:50 (permalink)
57Gregy
I would like to keep the Saffire Pro 40, if I had one, but I have the original Saffire from 10 years ago.


Hello Greg ,
seems that I cannot read ,
it´s the third time you havewritten it.
Hope you will finally get it fixed.
 
regards



 
 
#32
Pragi
Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1120
  • Joined: 2010/09/19 11:46:59
  • Location: Village of the sun
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/08 11:03:50 (permalink)
57Gregy
I would like to keep the Saffire Pro 40, if I had one, but I have the original Saffire from 10 years ago.


Hello Greg ,
seems that I cannot read ,
it´s the third time you have written that.
Hope you will finally get it fixed.
 
regards



 
 
#33
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/08 15:27:16 (permalink)
Pragi
57Gregy
I would like to keep the Saffire Pro 40, if I had one, but I have the original Saffire from 10 years ago.


Hello Greg ,
seems that I cannot read ,
it´s the third time you have written that.
Hope you will finally get it fixed.
 
regards



 
 




Thanks for commenting.

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#34
mettelus
Max Output Level: -25 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 5018
  • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
  • Location: Maryland, USA
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/17 00:37:12 (permalink)
Quick followup to the comments made earlier in this thread. I got my new system (Win10 Pro i7-8700K) in yesterday along with the Syba SY-PEX30016 Firewire card and my Saffire (PRO 24 DSP) came online without issues using MixControl 3.4 (same version I was running over Win7) on Win10 Pro.
 
Ironically, I went hunting for Roland A-300 PRO drivers and got messages on Roland's site to simply connect it and turn it on, and that Win10 installs the drivers automatically. Even blowing that off and downloading the "drivers," they were nothing more than pdf notices saying the same thing . Turns out it was accurate... just plugged it in, turned it on, and a few seconds later it came online. No configuration utility though, so will have to look into that later.* I was sorta spooked it wouldn't work from the comments I saw when Win10 first came out.
 
It is refreshing in a way loading a machine from scratch, since I am only going to install things that I use, not just because I have them. A lot of things are getting kicked to the curb on this machine.
 
*Quick Edit: I guess the A-PRO Control Map and A-PRO Editor are not OS specific, they are way down near the bottom of the Support page on Roland's website.
post edited by mettelus - 2018/02/17 03:50:48

ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1071Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
#35
abacab
Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3872
  • Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/17 02:01:25 (permalink)
Yup, the A-300PRO still works fine with Windows 10!  I just wish that Roland used a mod wheel rather than the joystick with a spring, but it is what it is.  As a minimal control surface it seems to work fairly well.
 
I don't have a Saffire, but I am still running a legacy M-Audio FireWire interface with Win 7 drivers on Win 10, and that is fully functional.  So far, so good with Win 10.  Other than the rapid release schedule for new versions, I am finding Win 10 to be a good system.

DAW: Sonar Platinum; Sonar Home Studio; Studio One 3 Pro; Tracktion Waveform; Ableton Live  Other: AIR AIEP; Akai VIP; BIAB; Ignite; iZotope Iris 2; Notion; Overture; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; Waves  OS: Win10 Pro x64 1703  System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000
#36
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/21 15:23:45 (permalink)
Pretty much gave up on getting the Saffire to work, then on a whim yesterday, I plugged it in and got a message "Installing Saffire" then "Setting Up Saffire" followed by a message that set up couldn't be completed because there were no drivers installed. Checked Focusrite's web site and of course there are no drivers for Win 10 as I expected.
Previously, I downloaded the Windows legacy firewire driver from their web site, as some of you noted that it's the driver that will (may) work.
Where is it and how do I try it? The download is in my 'downloads' folder, and I ran it (weeks ago) but nothing seemed to happen.

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#37
mettelus
Max Output Level: -25 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 5018
  • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
  • Location: Maryland, USA
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/21 17:41:34 (permalink)
The legacy (OHCI) driver is from Win7 (I think it was removed from Win8 onward). I didn't find info on installing that in Win10, but I *think* Win10 recognizes Win8.1 drivers. Here is a link on installing on Win 8.
 
https://support.microsoft...ly-in-windows-8-1-or-w

ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1071Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
#38
abacab
Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3872
  • Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/21 18:05:36 (permalink)
The Win10 device driver for FireWire is already included [Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller] with Windows 10.
 
I remember having to install that driver separately when using Win7.  But Win10 found and installed my PCIe FireWire card automagically.
 
You will also need a driver (audio device driver) for your audio interface from the manufacturer [Focusrite]. 
 
My suggestion would be to see if Focusrite has a Win7 or 8 driver for that interface and try it.  As with my M-Audio experience, using a Win7 driver can be good under Win10. 

DAW: Sonar Platinum; Sonar Home Studio; Studio One 3 Pro; Tracktion Waveform; Ableton Live  Other: AIR AIEP; Akai VIP; BIAB; Ignite; iZotope Iris 2; Notion; Overture; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; Waves  OS: Win10 Pro x64 1703  System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000
#39
Racery
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 10
  • Joined: 2018/02/02 09:16:12
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/02/25 07:44:14 (permalink)
abcab
The Win10 device driver for FireWire is already included [Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller] with Windows 10.
 
I remember having to install that driver separately when using Win7.  But Win10 found and installed my PCIe FireWire card automagically.
 
You will also need a driver (audio device driver) for your audio interface from the manufacturer [Focusrite]. 
 
My suggestion would be to see if Focusrite has a Win7 or 8 driver for that interface and try it.  As with my M-Audio experience, using a Win7 driver can be good under Win10. 


Thanks , i will try it next time , (Windows 10 64 bit )
#40
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/01 03:13:02 (permalink)
abacab
The Win10 device driver for FireWire is already included [Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller] with Windows 10.
 
I remember having to install that driver separately when using Win7.  But Win10 found and installed my PCIe FireWire card automagically.
 
You will also need a driver (audio device driver) for your audio interface from the manufacturer [Focusrite]. 
 
My suggestion would be to see if Focusrite has a Win7 or 8 driver for that interface and try it.  As with my M-Audio experience, using a Win7 driver can be good under Win10. 




Thanks. The FW card works fine (as far as I can tell. Windows says it's enabled and working, but I have nothing to connect to it except the Saffire, and it ain't talking), it's the Saffire drivers that don't work.
Tonight, I tried something else; when installing the driver from the disk there is supposed to be a pop-up during the installation to "Continue anyway" when a Windows notice about unsigned software pops up. I get neither the Windows message nor the "Continue anyway" message, and the driver doesn't load.
So I thought maybe there was something in the Win 10 security overzealousness which was preventing the pop-up from... popping up. I disconnected from the internet and turned off all the UACs I could find, including virus scan, and that didn't work, either.
Went to the Focusrite sire and downloaded the 2.7 driver, again, same result. I must be crazy, if you go by the definition of insanity, "doing the same thing over again and expecting different results", but I sure would like to continue using the same interface on each of my machines.
I guess I'll have to do that with a new FW device.  

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#41
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/01 03:17:45 (permalink)
I should add that I ran it (many times) as administrator, and tried all of the compatibility modes, ran the comp. troubleshooter with recommended settings, too.

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#42
mettelus
Max Output Level: -25 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 5018
  • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
  • Location: Maryland, USA
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/01 03:24:15 (permalink)
One other quick comment about that card above, there is a power supply connection (4-pin from the computer P/S) on the end of the card to provide power to units which get power from the FW cable itself (i.e., no wall wart). Initially, I had installled the card without that, and although the unit ran, it had EMI noise from the GPU. I did the Win8.1 driver install from the above post (it does seem a newer build), but the EMI didn't go away until it had an active P/S connection.
 
I wanted to throw that out just to make sure you have that P/S connection made if your Saffire is powered from the FW cable itself (it may not come on otherwise). Be sure to power off the computer at the plug if you are making/breaking that P/S or FW connection though so you do not send a voltage spike to the unit.

ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1071Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
#43
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9593
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/14 13:41:23 (permalink)
FWIW, The 4-pin Molex power connection on the Syba Firewire controller is there to provide bus-power for using bus-powered Firewire devices. 
 
For audio interfaces, I'm not a fan of bus-power... as it often compromises fidelity on the mic preamps.
If you're not using bus-powered Firewire peripherals, there's no need to connect power.
 

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#44
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/21 20:27:53 (permalink)
Thanks, Jim. The Saffire came with a wall wart; it's still in the box, unwrapped after all these years.
The computer I use it with came with a FW card already installed (VIA, works great), so when I plugged it in when I first got it, everything worked fine so I never saw a reason to use the power supply.
I did connect the power connector when I installed this Syba card, despite you mentioning years ago to me in another thread that it wasn't necessary. But that's the only thing that works with this Saffire. The lights are on but nobody's home.
I'm looking at getting a MOTU Express, which has both FW and USB, but they seem to indicate that when using FW, you must use bus power.

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#45
tecknot
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 734
  • Joined: 2004/10/31 17:09:29
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/24 04:38:00 (permalink)
I am a little hesitant to mention, but I have a Saffire too, but instead of relying on a FW card, I went the TH (thunderbolt) route and have been loving it ever since.  All I needed was a FW to TH adapter and all is fine in Win10.  If your PC is compatible with TH, I would ditch the FW.
 
Kind regards,
 
tecknot
#46
tecknot
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 734
  • Joined: 2004/10/31 17:09:29
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/24 04:38:02 (permalink)
deleted
#47
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9593
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/26 17:37:33 (permalink)
If the audio interface doesn't have a 64Bit driver, there are *zero* workarounds.
 
Switching from a PCIe Firewire controller to Thunderbolt>Firewire adapter will have no benefit.
Even if the audio interface HAD a 64Bit driver, there would be zero advantage to using Thunderbolt>Firewire verses a PCIe TI chipset Firewire controller.
 
Thunderbolt provides access to the PCIe bus.
By very definition, it can not out-perform PCIe.
Another facet: Some audio interfaces will not be compatible with some Thunderbolt>Firewire adapters.

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#48
tecknot
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 734
  • Joined: 2004/10/31 17:09:29
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/26 21:11:50 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
If the audio interface doesn't have a 64Bit driver, there are *zero* workarounds.
 
Switching from a PCIe Firewire controller to Thunderbolt>Firewire adapter will have no benefit.
Even if the audio interface HAD a 64Bit driver, there would be zero advantage to using Thunderbolt>Firewire verses a PCIe TI chipset Firewire controller.
 
Thunderbolt provides access to the PCIe bus.
By very definition, it can not out-perform PCIe.
Another facet: Some audio interfaces will not be compatible with some Thunderbolt>Firewire adapters.


Hi Jim.  I'm not trying to pick a fight, but some of the points you made above are inaccurate (knowing you have much more experience on computers than I do).  First, a 64bit driver wouldn't make a difference, a 32bit driver would work just as well in Windows 10. Next, switching from a FW PCIe card to a TB one would be beneficial because it eliminates the conflict of TI vs DICE etc. controllers.  Further, the adapter I was referring to was one that you would use to connect a FW device to a TB port.  There was no suggestion that an adapter would "out-perform" in any fashion.  It's all about the connection, that's all.  Although some interfaces may not be compatible in this scenario, I am talking about a Saffire interface which is compatible as verified by Focusrite and by myself as this is the way I have my Saffire interface working with my PC (via the TB card).  So, I just want to clarify that.
 
Kind regards,
 
tecknot
#49
abacab
Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3872
  • Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/26 22:11:53 (permalink)
tecknot
 
a 64bit driver wouldn't make a difference, a 32bit driver would work just as well in Windows 10



It matters.  If you run a 64-bit Windows, you must run 64-bit drivers.

DAW: Sonar Platinum; Sonar Home Studio; Studio One 3 Pro; Tracktion Waveform; Ableton Live  Other: AIR AIEP; Akai VIP; BIAB; Ignite; iZotope Iris 2; Notion; Overture; SampleTank 3; SONiVOX; SynthMaster; Syntronik; Waves  OS: Win10 Pro x64 1703  System: Homebuilt Asus; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 1.0TB 7200rpm; PCIe FireWire  Audio: M-Audio FW-410  Controllers: A-300PRO; Alesis VX49; CME Xkey  Hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000
#50
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9593
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/28 15:23:07 (permalink)
tecknot
 
Hi Jim.  I'm not trying to pick a fight, but some of the points you made above are inaccurate (knowing you have much more experience on computers than I do).  First, a 64bit driver wouldn't make a difference, a 32bit driver would work just as well in Windows 10. Next, switching from a FW PCIe card to a TB one would be beneficial because it eliminates the conflict of TI vs DICE etc. controllers.  Further, the adapter I was referring to was one that you would use to connect a FW device to a TB port.  There was no suggestion that an adapter would "out-perform" in any fashion.  It's all about the connection, that's all.  Although some interfaces may not be compatible in this scenario, I am talking about a Saffire interface which is compatible as verified by Focusrite and by myself as this is the way I have my Saffire interface working with my PC (via the TB card).  So, I just want to clarify that.
 



No intention of arguing on this side... but where are you getting this information?
It's absolutely wrong...  
 
Have you ever tried loading a 32Bit driver when using 64Bit Windows?
The driver won't install/load/operate...
 
Regarding running Firewire protocol via Thunderbolt>Firewire adapter:
There are compatibility issues with certain combinations of audio interfaces and TB>Firewire adapters.
There are zero issues when using a quality PCIe TI chipset Firewire controller.
At best, you'd have performance equal to using a PCIe TI chipset Firewire controller.
At worst, you'd be trading one set of (incompatibility) variables for another... with the same result.
 
DICE-II is the Firewire chipset on certain audio interfaces.
Cheaper to integrate than chipsets used by MOTU and RME, but has significantly higher round-trip latency (requires larger "safety-buffer" to avoid glitches).
 
When it comes to a Firewire audio interface, there are varying degrees of "incompatibility" with certain Firewire controllers. 
Incompatibility with the Firewire controller could cause anything from diminished performance, flaky behavior/symptoms, to full on crashes. 
 
MOTU and RME units are typically more "forgiving" about the Firewire controller.
They'll work fine with many VIA chipset Firewire controllers.
 
M-Audio units would typically not work with non-TI chipset Firewire controllers.
 
Some audio interfaces (Apollo, Tascam, Mackie - mostly older units) are finicky about the specific TI chipset controller.  SIIG PCIe TI chipset Firewire controller works with these and every other popular Firewire audio interface.  These units typically won't work at all with non-TI chipset Firewire controllers.
 
 
Without a 64Bit driver for the audio interface, there's no way to make it work (with 64Bit version of Windows 10).
Any further discussion/details are absolutely (unfortunately for the OP) moot.
 
 

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#51
tecknot
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 734
  • Joined: 2004/10/31 17:09:29
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/30 16:15:49 (permalink)
Hi Jim.  With all those considerations, it would seem that my configuration would unlikely work, but I do have a TB card and no FW card in my PC with a 64bit CPU and 64bit Windows 10 .  I am using a Focusrite Saffire interface via FW to TB.  Focusrite has only one driver from what I can tell, so I had no reason to believe that the driver was 64bit and knowing that anything 64bit is not going to work in a x86/32bit system it would seem obvious that Focusrite is providing a 32bit driver for dual compatibility.  In an effort to save the OP's interface, it would make more sense to purchase and install a TB card and to buy a new interface.  It's working here, why not give it a shot?
 
Kind regards,
 
tecknot
#52
fireberd
Max Output Level: -40 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3506
  • Joined: 2008/02/25 14:14:28
  • Location: Inverness, FL
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/03/30 17:33:14 (permalink)
Not all motherboards support Thunderbolt, even with a PCIe Thunderbolt card.  I have a Z170 ASUS motherboard that will support Thunderbolt but I need a special interface adapter.

Franklin D-10 Pedal Steel Guitar (primary instrument). Nashville Telecaster, Bass, etc. 
ASUS Maximus VIII Hero M/B, i7 6700K CPU, 16GB Ram, SSD and conventional hard drives, Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Pro Insider Pre-Release
Sonar Platinum/CbB. MOTU 896MK3 Hybrid, (backup unit Tascam US 4X4)Tranzport, X-Touch, JBL LSR308 Monitors,  
Ozone 5,  Studio One 3

ISRC Registered

Member of Nashville based R.O.P.E. Assn.
#53
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9593
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/04/02 12:39:23 (permalink)
tecknot
Hi Jim.  With all those considerations, it would seem that my configuration would unlikely work, but I do have a TB card and no FW card in my PC with a 64bit CPU and 64bit Windows 10 .  I am using a Focusrite Saffire interface via FW to TB.  Focusrite has only one driver from what I can tell, so I had no reason to believe that the driver was 64bit and knowing that anything 64bit is not going to work in a x86/32bit system it would seem obvious that Focusrite is providing a 32bit driver for dual compatibility.  In an effort to save the OP's interface, it would make more sense to purchase and install a TB card and to buy a new interface.  It's working here, why not give it a shot?
 



You're using a newer audio interface that has a 64Bit driver.
The OP's audio interface (ever though it's the same brand) was created prior to 64Bit Windows Vista.
It doesn't have a 64Bit driver.
Thus, there's **zero** chance that it'll work.
Doesn't matter if you connect via PCIe TI chipset Firewire, Thunderbolt>Firewire, etc.
Without a 64Bit driver, there's no way for the hardware/OS to communicate/function with the audio interface.
 
It's unfortunate for the OP... but there's no moving forward with that particular audio interface.
For those who go all the way back to the beginning of PC DAW recording; it would be like trying to use the Digital Audio Labs CardD+.  
 
 

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#54
57Gregy
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 14241
  • Joined: 2004/05/31 17:04:17
  • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface? 2018/04/02 14:25:23 (permalink)
Thanks, everyone who responded.
Like death and taxes, upgrading is certain in this life.
 

Greg 

Music Creator 2003, MC Pro 24, SONAR Home Studio 6 XL, SONAR  X3e, CbB, Focusrite Saffire, not enough space.
Everything is better with pie. 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=609446
http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/gregfields 
#55
Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Jump to:
© 2018 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1