Win 10, FireWire, Saffire Connectivity or New Interface?

I have been trying in vain for months to get my Saffire recognized by my Win 10 computer, or more accurately, the FW card recognized by the computer.
The Saffire is such a great interface for me that I would like to keep using it.
I have installed and re-installed the FW card many times, and the only time it was 'seen' by Windows was the first time I did it. It doesn't even show in the Device Manager anymore. I have run the 'check for new devices' thingy every time I did it, but nothing.
I'm not sure if there is a driver for it that needs to be installed, and the donated FW card (thanks, Bapu) didn't come with a disk.
Any suggestions?
 
I can get another interface, probably a Focusrite or TASCAM, maybe a Steinberg, but I'm so used to the Saffire and I'm old and set in my ways. The DAW computer is also old (almost 13!), running XP, and who knows when it will give up the ghost.
Any suggestions? Or what to be wary of in an interface?
 
Last year, I bought a Yamaha MX 49 to replace my broken Yamaha PSR GX 76, and It works great. It has an interface in it. Using the Steinberg/Yamaha ASIO driver and it provides excellent low-latency performance. I can record both MIDI and audio through it via USB, but I have yet to find a way to monitor the playback while recording and not have the playback also record on the new track. I would think that would be an essential task for an interface. And there are no mic or guitar inputs on it.
Oh, and the level is so low as to be unusable. Regardless of how loud I have the keyboard's volume, or how high the record level is on the computer, it rarely rises above -30 in the recorded track.
So really, unusable as an audio interface. On the plus side, MIDI works great!
Anyone familiar with the MX and using it to record anything?
 
Anyone got the winning lottery numbers? 

I have a Saffire.

You probably need to install the legacy FireWire drivers for Win10. Can't find the download link so try this:

https://answers.microsoft...2e-61a123d0de87?page=3

Also make sure you're on the latest mix control drivers.

MS did release a downloadable Win10 legacy driver somewhere seems to have disappeared. The Win 8 legacy driver might work though. I am assuming the discussion on my link is about it have not read it fully.

If non legacy drivers are working that's because you are on a different FireWire chipset.

Yup
But it will work correctly though with legacy FireWire driver.

Alex, here is the thread I started, on the www.tenforums.com about the "legacy" FW driver. 
https://www.tenforums.com/drivers-hardware/91787-1394-firewire-driver.html
 

It is a TI chip on the card. I'll have to pull it to see what brand the card is, though. Bapu may know.
It is PCIe.
My DAW computer uses VIA without problems (as someone in a very old thread wrote, "you got lucky").
 
I'll go through these recommendations on my days off and see what happens. I just think it's strange that the FW card was seen by Windows when I first installed it, but never again.
 
Thanks everyone for chiming in. I'll let you know the outcome.

Since Windows is not "seeing" it, the next step is the BIOS.  Some BIOS will identify added cards and some will not.  However as Windows is not seeing it likely the BIOS is not either.  Next step is to reset the BIOS (Clear CMOS memory).  Some motherboards have a jumper to clear CMOS, but the best way is, with the PC powered off remove the CR2032 CMOS backup battery on the motherboard for AT LEAST 10 minutes.  Replace the battery, observing polarity and then power up and Check the Device Manager to see if its installed (or has an error code).  If there were any BIOS customizations those will have to be set again, because of the clearing. 
 

I would think it will work OK.  
 

Have you tried the board yet?
 

It should work.  My Saffire Pro 40 went "bottom up" (died) back in the Win 8 days.   I liked it and thought it was great until I got something else to replace it and much better recorded audio.  
 
Before it died I had some problems with the Firewire interface, it stopped connecting so I was using my backup MAudio Fastrack Ultra backup unit.  I kept messing with the Saffire Pro 40 but neither Firewire port would work (connect).  Then all of a sudden one of the Firewire ports worked but the other didn't and I started using it again until it died completely.
 
The MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid I have now is connected via Firewire and I'm on Win 10 (current fall creator's upgrade).

Another thought.  If you have access to another Win 10 PC and can install the FireWire card in it, try that and connecting the Saffire Pro 40.  If it still will not connect, there may be a problem with the FireWire interface in the Saffire Pro 40.  The Saffire Pro 40, like many audio devices in that era, uses the DICE II chipset internally.  

mettelus
Ouch, that card not working is worrisome, since I found the same on on my own and asked Focusrite if it would work (it does have the TI chipset recommended by Focusrite). The response I got was that it wasn't one of the cards they specifically tested, so could not guarantee it, but is also the reason I haven't upgraded to Win10.
 
I am not sure if MixControl/firmware versions are playing into this, but those can have as much affect as drivers. Also there is an ohciTool recommended on Focusrite's help pages that would be worth running. In a couple weeks I will probably be in the same boat, so will see if I can get that FW card to work for me when the time comes and report back (I do not want to lose my 24 DSP either).
 
Quick note, all of the recommended cards on that page above are 1394b, and I need a 1394a port for mine.

The Syba card that fireberd linked to in post #2 has the correct TI chip, and has a 1394a port.

57Gregy

fireberd
Have you tried the board yet?
 

Yes. Recognized and working, but it just won't communicate with the Saffire.
I guess I have to accept that it won't work on Win 10.

There are is no doubt , it won't work for Windows 10 

I have the original Saffire, not the Pro 40. It's about 10 years old. It still works great on my XP DAW, which is even older that the Saffire.

mettelus
Ouch, that card not working is worrisome, since I found the same on on my own and asked Focusrite if it would work (it does have the TI chipset recommended by Focusrite). The response I got was that it wasn't one of the cards they specifically tested, so could not guarantee it, but is also the reason I haven't upgraded to Win10.
 
I am not sure if MixControl/firmware versions are playing into this, but those can have as much affect as drivers. Also there is an ohciTool recommended on Focusrite's help pages that would be worth running. In a couple weeks I will probably be in the same boat, so will see if I can get that FW card to work for me when the time comes and report back (I do not want to lose my 24 DSP either).
 
Quick note, all of the recommended cards on that page above are 1394b, and I need a 1394a port for mine.

Well, if I can't get the Saffire to work on my machine with this brand-new firewire card, I'll probably go with a USB interface.
Maybe we can work something out.