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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/13 15:47:33 (permalink)
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I didn't have to reauthorize AD2 after the update, though I had to log back into my Cakewalk account in the Command Center before SONAR would let me continue.


I did have to re authorize AD2, but not Toontrack, or any of the other plugin managers / manufacturers I use besides CCC..

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/14 00:29:00 (permalink)
I have to re-authorize if I change my shirt. :)

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/14 13:53:11 (permalink)
I have a 4k screen set to 100% and suddenly all desktop icons have huge gaps between them.
Does that mean this already got installed? We have no choice?
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/14 16:51:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby donbelisle 2017/09/12 22:47:43
I did it ! Apart from the usual AD2 minor issue, no problems so far.

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/14 20:21:28 (permalink)
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But life is still a game, no?




You're right.
 
Tag, you're it.


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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/15 15:01:55 (permalink)
FWIW, check the game mode setting - i found Sonar was very sluggish when saving (manual and auto) then i discovered the game mode of W10 was on.

Its now off, and rhe save function is back to normal.

And for those sceptics, no, i still don't regret early adopting.

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/15 17:48:46 (permalink)
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But life is still a game, no?


Well actually no......nowadays it's a service with feature and quality updates 🤓
You no longer have 5 lives and then it's game-over. It's more like Russian roulette....each next update might be your last

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/17 16:55:55 (permalink)
if its too late how can i fix it?

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/18 19:27:38 (permalink)
Updated 4 computers so far.
 
GAME MODE is ON as is all the other game crap. 
 
Definitely need a TWEAKui to cover all the dozens of settings that should be DISABLED by default.
 
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FYI:   the store updates outside of windows updates. Sometimes a gigabyte:  open store find settings and disable.
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The One drive nag is now started by an entry in the task scheduler: lots of stuff there that should be disabled for a dedicated computer: especially stuff like auto-defrag,...
 
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We have been told that Sonar handles background tasks associated with audio. So the setting should be PROGRAMS.  Other daws, like cubase,... do want the background setting.
 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/19 03:18:33 (permalink)
Good info here... I know this is not a windows forum, but I do have a question about Win 10.  If I were to purchase it now, I assume that I would be stuck with the Creators update for the default installation.   What would be the recommended way of installing Win 10 without it, if it is even possible?  Will I have to install it and then roll back to an earlier Win 10 version?  Yep, I'm still running Win 7, but the old audio interface is about to give out, and I'd like to get both the interface and Win 10 at the same time...
 
Thx!
 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/20 18:33:00 (permalink)
On my Dell Inspiron 17" Core i5 16GB Ram laptop with NVidia card I am noticing a distinct slow down in vsts being loaded. Was alot faster before Creators update. BTW Game mode isnt on by default is it??
 
Could be coincidental ..
 
 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 15:35:24 (permalink)
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On my Dell Inspiron 17" Core i5 16GB Ram laptop with NVidia card I am noticing a distinct slow down in vsts being loaded. Was alot faster before Creators update. BTW Game mode isnt on by default is it??
 
Could be coincidental ..
 
 


I installed the Creators update on three computers and Game Mode was "on" by default on all three computers.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 16:03:01 (permalink)
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aidanodr
On my Dell Inspiron 17" Core i5 16GB Ram laptop with NVidia card I am noticing a distinct slow down in vsts being loaded. Was alot faster before Creators update. BTW Game mode isnt on by default is it??
 
Could be coincidental ..

I installed the Creators update on three computers and Game Mode was "on" by default on all three computers.



Thanks JGMusic. I forgot to look, got distracted when i posted this and forgot :D Crazy that its on by default?

JUST TURNED IT OFF. But no real difference.

Sonar is definitely slower at loading tracks and also at loading Plugins since this update. On loading a file I am getting the NOT RESPONDING thing. I wonder are others experiencing the same?

 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 16:40:50 (permalink)
OK .. solved.

I decided to add a generic Win 10 Creators update thread here, I think the solution deserves it :D

http://forum.cakewalk.com/Windows-10-CREATORS-Update-and-Sonar-My-findings-DO-THIS-m3594991.aspx
 
 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 20:29:00 (permalink)
Sorry never read the post correctly first time round. Could be handy for a dedicated gaming machine.
 
post edited by interpolated - 2017/05/02 20:24:29

I have computer stuff.
 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 21:19:32 (permalink)
I have since the last post realized that my printer was a casualty of the latest Win update. This on my laptop.
I have the Home edition on that, so some trouble there.
It will not install drivers for it at all (asked to reboot several to no avail), and is rendered useless (for now).
I have tried anything I can think of, but I'm not PC savvy, so might just be user error..
SONAR wise, I haven't had any issues at all.
 

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 21:26:11 (permalink)
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I have since the last post realized that my printer was a casualty of the latest Win update. This on my laptop.
I have the Home edition on that, so some trouble there.
 
 


I had to reinstall the software for a Brother Printer after installing the Creators Update.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/21 23:50:39 (permalink)
Zargg
I have since the last post realized that my printer was a casualty of the latest Win update. This on my laptop.
I have the Home edition on that, so some trouble there.
It will not install drivers for it at all (asked to reboot several to no avail), and is rendered useless (for now).
I have tried anything I can think of, but I'm not PC savvy, so might just be user error..
SONAR wise, I haven't had any issues at all.
 



I take it you've checked for updated printer drivers on the manufacturer's website? If so, have you tried running them as Administrator?
 
If that's no good, uninstall any drivers, then try plugging in the printer and running Windows update to see if Microsoft will download and install the necessary files.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/22 13:11:42 (permalink)
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I have since the last post realized that my printer was a casualty of the latest Win update. This on my laptop.
I have the Home edition on that, so some trouble there.
It will not install drivers for it at all (asked to reboot several to no avail), and is rendered useless (for now).
I have tried anything I can think of, but I'm not PC savvy, so might just be user error..
SONAR wise, I haven't had any issues at all.
 



I take it you've checked for updated printer drivers on the manufacturer's website? If so, have you tried running them as Administrator?
 
If that's no good, uninstall any drivers, then try plugging in the printer and running Windows update to see if Microsoft will download and install the necessary files.


I have done all this  
On two different laptops..

Ken Nilsen
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/22 16:19:51 (permalink)
An update in the fall screwed printers for many of my clients. We replaced printers and still some of them would not work with USB. Some worked with wireless, and some network, some not. 
 
In January an update nuked printers for a client that i had "fixed" in the fall, and i had to change from network back to usb to get them to work. 
 
"Crative" has made the default printer "feature" far worse than it was. If the default printer is not powered-on when the computer starts the printer might be gone from the list of printers and the XML printer will be set as default. This was a big issue in w7. Fixed in 8 and now worse and worse with w10.
 
USB connections have been intermittent since 10. Updated a Dell laptop a year ago and none of the USB ports worked. Way annoying.
 
It is obvious the MS psychos are focused on data theft. Example: cannot get rid of OneDrive. with every update it becomes more insidious. Crative has added a task scheduler entry to nag and nag.
"Put your files on our servers so we can help you better."   Not me.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/22 18:06:59 (permalink)
Here's a script that allows you to take some control of windows update. It looks promising but as always, YMMV.
 
https://www.ghacks.net/20...dows-10-manually-only/
 
By the way, you can also use the Feedback Hub app to report issues or to register your dissatisfaction about aspects of Windows 10 to Microsoft. Microsoft Windows developers are sometimes less than scrupulous about checking this forum for bug reports. 

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/23 04:34:00 (permalink)
Gracias, por este articulo, auque creo que sonar, deberia tener su propia herramienta automatica, para el mejor rendimineto de todo el conjunto, ya que creo que a microsoft esto le va pero lo justo para cumplir.
Ojala sonar lo pudiera tener......muchas gracias

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/04/26 19:32:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/05/04 23:36:47
Just read this on The Register
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/
 

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/13 19:06:14 (permalink)
Tascam are warning owners of the US20x20 of issues and advising not to allow the upgrade until Microsoft has a fix.
 
And in the programming world, development environments are experiencing issues, apparently due to the way Windows now moves libraries around and this causes problems for debuggers.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/13 19:13:48 (permalink)
I have a laptop with a hi-res screen and an update just doubled the space between desktop icons.
Apparently you can fix it by changing values in the registry, but seriously.--
 
And disabling updates is also not a good idea as WannaCry proves. Not even easily done on the Win10 Home edition.
 
Oh, the joys of these updates. Someone should send Microsoft the bill.
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/13 22:45:13 (permalink)
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And disabling updates is also not a good idea as WannaCry proves. Not even easily done on the Win10 Home edition.
 



i disable updates on all my pc's, always have, both pro and home versions of windows 10, never had a problem, and it is just as easy to disable the updates on the home versions i have as it is on the pro versions i have, it's just a couple of mouse clicks and done
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/13 23:12:47 (permalink)
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And disabling updates is also not a good idea as WannaCry proves. Not even easily done on the Win10 Home edition.
 



i disable updates on all my pc's, always have, both pro and home versions of windows 10, never had a problem, and it is just as easy to disable the updates on the home versions i have as it is on the pro versions i have, it's just a couple of mouse clicks and done



As my machine as perpetually connected to the internet, I make sure all Windows 10 updates are installed whenever they are released. I also have system restore enabled just in case.

The way mine is configured is that Windows 10 updates are downloaded, but I choose when to install them so I know that the update has occurred. 

I have categorically, however, disabled the downloading of any drivers.  This is one thing I do myself from the manufacturer's website's rather than rely on Microsoft for these.

I have not had any issues with any Windows 10 updates to date, including the anniversary edition and the Creator's update.

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/14 16:19:33 (permalink)
I support a couple dozen comps.  For many, including my own, i have disabled the windows update service so i can manually update when required. But not for all depending upon our agreements of service.
 
Two clients lost all printers during January's update. Now i have remote access to the computers and the updates are disabled.
 
The MS asses have cost users with limited connections lots of overages.
 
and: the store updating is separate from windows updates.  I had caught the store starting to download 1 gig on a client's computer.  So i had to start opening it and changing the setting for every computer. A waste of time.
The new version is now defaulted to not auto updating.
 
And: updated 3 computers recently to the "Creative" update: game mode is ON.
 
I have also disabled a bunch of TaskScheduler tasks. The ONEdrive nag screen is started as a task. It might still happen even after One drive is uninstalled.
 
And so on.
 
There is still a need to tweek computers. No matter how fast they are, the imbeciles managing software development continue to add crap without permission doing stuff that is not needed.
 
A couple of years ago, at 1am on a wednesday, during a session, the defragger started. Lots of crap like that is run from the taskscheduler. 
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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/19 22:02:19 (permalink)
I updated to Win 10 Creator a few days ago and only had to reset my XLN/AD2 and Cakewalk accounts. Gaming mode is off. Everything is running sweet. 
 
If the upgrade causes issues then it can be rolled back.
 
Best with it
 
Gary
 

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Re: Windows 10 Creators Update - Your DAW is not a Game 2017/05/22 15:40:07 (permalink)
My USB MIDI devices are all jacked up since the update.  I have no idea how to get them working again.  Basically they randomly become "unrecognized/failed" devices.  When I reboot a different set will work or not work.  And, i can't seem to use a powered hub anymore.
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