Treefight
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Windows 10, drivers, etc.
So what's the verdict? Between SPLAT, audio and other drivers, and other potential compatibility issues, is it still too early to comfortably go to Windows 10, i.e., are most of you that have upgraded finding that most drivers still work and that most other hardware/third-party software has caught up? Or is too much of a hassle at this time and probably wise to wait some more? Thanks.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 11:34:45
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Seems that the biggest problem is the drivers for Audio interfaces, there is no legacy firewire support for 10 at this moment much as with 8.x, though they did relent in the end for 8.x. Other than that annoying feature I have no complaints.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 11:44:33
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THere is a thread that lists what is working in the way of drivers. Sonar is good to go, it looks like Roland has updated what they haven't abandoned and Steinberg is issuing updated drivers. That covers my system.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 12:52:50
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Rwork arounds for those Roland/Edirol units (that i have) that were not updated, no problem with Focusrite (yes Doc, we know, if you have a TI Firewire) ....... There were and are other freds about this subject and i fully expect this one to join them ! I was and am good to go with W10. Cheers, Jerry
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 12:59:33
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All fine here. Check my sig for hardware.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 13:05:21
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I've upgraded 3 systems (2 laptops, one DAW desktop) and had almost* no errors at all. These upgrades were all from Windows 8.1, which also ran fine. For the first time ever, I didn't even have to reinstall any my software! It has been stable, super fast, no OS crashes. Nothing to speak of. *Slight usb port issue with Maschine
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 13:45:21
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 15:11:20
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Treefight So what's the verdict? Between SPLAT, audio and other drivers, and other potential compatibility issues, is it still too early to comfortably go to Windows 10, i.e., are most of you that have upgraded finding that most drivers still work and that most other hardware/third-party software has caught up? Or is too much of a hassle at this time and probably wise to wait some more? Thanks.
You will need to research for yourself and find out if your drivers are compatible. I won't be upgrading till new year first six months can occasionally get rough in the waters for any new OS upgrade. Cheers
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 15:17:50
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Wookiee Seems that the biggest problem is the drivers for Audio interfaces, there is no legacy firewire support for 10 at this moment much as with 8.x, though they did relent in the end for 8.x. Other than that annoying feature I have no complaints.
Hi there, I don't know where no legacy firewire support came from, but in windows 10, it's there. I have a TI Firewire card in my system for my Focusrite Pro 40 audio interface and it's working great..... Other than that, the only thing I can suggest to people who do want to upgrade to windows 10 is do download all of the latest drivers for your hardware and put them safe on another hard drive and when a windows 10 driver doesn't work right, you have the latest and correct driver for your hardware..
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 15:21:21
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Not sure if others are having this minor issue, but I've noticed that with Win 10 Pro my internet connection has been intermittent. I'm using a Broadcom ethernet driver (which Win 10 automatically installed and states it's the best available driver), but it keeps kicking me out every 20 minutes or so, and then in a minute or two I'm automatically connected again. It's very annoying as I also game online and do get kicked out in the middle of gaming. Microsoft is aware of this problem and suggest to use the Win 8/8.1 drivers in compatibility mode (until a better driver is available): [link=http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_web/windows-10-intermittently-drops-ethernet-andor/ea96e7bf-e1cb-4ed9-8782-f20dceab3e2d]http://answers.microsoft....4ed9-8782-f20dceab3e2d[/link]. With everyone being 'online' all the time, I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't already issued fix for this. However, at Broadcom there's a newer driver available, but it's only slightly better (dropping out after <= 35 min): https://www.broadcom.com/support/?gid=9 I'll test out the Win 8.1 drivers and see if it's more stable.......other than this issue, I've found Win 10 has been really good in all other applications. Certainly not a deal breaker here, but annoying nonetheless.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 16:19:32
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einstein36 Hi there, I don't know where no legacy firewire support came from, but in windows 10, it's there. I have a TI Firewire card in my system for my Focusrite Pro 40 audio interface and it's working great..... Other than that, the only thing I can suggest to people who do want to upgrade to windows 10 is do download all of the latest drivers for your hardware and put them safe on another hard drive and when a windows 10 driver doesn't work right, you have the latest and correct driver for your hardware..
Fyi if you are running mix control 3.X (latest is 3.6) Focusrite recommends that you do not use legacy drivers. Ta..
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/09 16:28:10
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 16:23:14
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I haven't had any issues in Windows 10. But I checked out driver support before upgrading.
BTW, I had 2 different 8.1 pcs exhibit intermittent drops from the network recently. Ended up being caused by avast antivirus. Replacing avast with webroot "cured" the problem.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 17:00:48
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Everything has been smooth here, using the same drivers I used for 8.1 (and I have a VIA firewire chipset)
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/09 19:27:01
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Doktor Avalanche
einstein36 Hi there, I don't know where no legacy firewire support came from, but in windows 10, it's there. I have a TI Firewire card in my system for my Focusrite Pro 40 audio interface and it's working great..... Other than that, the only thing I can suggest to people who do want to upgrade to windows 10 is do download all of the latest drivers for your hardware and put them safe on another hard drive and when a windows 10 driver doesn't work right, you have the latest and correct driver for your hardware..
Fyi if you are running mix control 3.X (latest is 3.6) Focusrite recommends that you do not use legacy drivers.
Ta..
Ahh...thank you for clarifying that up...you are quite correct in that don't use legacy driver mode...just use the regular firewire driver and everything will be great..:)
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/10 08:36:16
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DRanck I haven't had any issues in Windows 10. But I checked out driver support before upgrading.
BTW, I had 2 different 8.1 pcs exhibit intermittent drops from the network recently. Ended up being caused by avast antivirus. Replacing avast with webroot "cured" the problem.
I've been using Webroot's SecureAnywhere (fantastic little program BTW) for 2 years now and the intermittent drops only happened after Win 10 was installed. Looks like the Win 8.1 drivers (in compatibility mode) might be the trick. Thanks for posting this DRanck.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/10 09:35:02
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My Roland Juno Gi midi does not work on Windows 10. (USB driver)
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/10 09:41:45
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In my experience, all seems ok, including a Midas Venice F (firewire) console. No need to do anything, everything worked fine immediately. Giorgio
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/10 13:00:10
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einstein36
Wookiee Seems that the biggest problem is the drivers for Audio interfaces, there is no legacy firewire support for 10 at this moment much as with 8.x, though they did relent in the end for 8.x. Other than that annoying feature I have no complaints.
Hi there, I don't know where no legacy firewire support came from, but in windows 10, it's there. I have a TI Firewire card in my system for my Focusrite Pro 40 audio interface and it's working great..... Other than that, the only thing I can suggest to people who do want to upgrade to windows 10 is do download all of the latest drivers for your hardware and put them safe on another hard drive and when a windows 10 driver doesn't work right, you have the latest and correct driver for your hardware..
Just go to your device manager and try it the option is not available even after installing the 8.1 windoze legacy driver.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/11 17:41:27
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I updated my DAW to Windows 10, 64 bit and it is working great! I updated to Win 10 from Windows 8.1 and then performed a fresh install of Windows 10 from my USB drive so it could format the HD and give me a clean install. I re-installed Sonar X3e and all of my purchased plugins and soft synths. I first added a new MOBO and a new processor and some ram and then performed the update, now my DAW is working nice and smooth. My Roland Octa-Capture used the same drivers from Windows 8.1 also my old Legacy M-Audio Radium 49 keyboard, My Trigger Finger pad controller, my Motu Micro lite and my Mackie Universal Controller all works under Win 10 with their Windows 8 or older drivers. No problems here.
post edited by Jesse G - 2015/09/11 17:55:52
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 14:59:16
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I have upgraded to windows 10 only to find that some of my hardware does not work. There are no problems when it comes to software and windows 10. Sonar Platinum works well with it. I even have older software that would not work in windows 7 but it loads and works fine in windows 10. My PCR-800 does not work in windows 10 and there are no driver updates for it. I really don't know if Roland will come out with a newer version of this driver as this midi controller has been discontinued for some time. So I reinstalled windows 7 on the computer that i use for recording. I upgraded 3 other computers using windows 10 and all is fine. Just make sure your hardware works before you update. I am not sure what to do about my midi controller. I really don't want to replace it.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 15:25:08
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☄ Helpfulby Marcus Curtis 2015/09/19 02:24:59
Marcus Curtis My PCR-800 does not work in windows 10 and there are no driver updates for it. I really don't know if Roland will come out with a newer version of this driver as this midi controller has been discontinued for some time. So I reinstalled windows 7 on the computer that i use for recording.
See : Windows 10 / Sonar Plat/ and PCR-800
post edited by Paul P - 2015/09/15 15:34:01
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 19:04:57
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Thanks Paul I will give this a try when I get home later
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 19:21:38
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Try the Vista drivers for your PCR-800.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 19:34:40
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John Try the Vista drivers for your PCR-800.
Also to piggy back off of John Try the Windows 7 drivers too, they may surprise you.
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 20:24:25
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Hi all: It is really good that you got it to work well after the updates. For me, I did 2 updates and the computers work ok. Except that it is slow, boot up is slower than on Win 7, and network copying is very slow. For the non DAW computer, I did a clean reinstall from scratch, meaning erasing the whole hard drive and start new. For the DAW computer where it has my Sonar, I reverted back to Win 7. Had to say that after the clean reinstall, the non DAW computer works really fast, and everything is flawless. Btw, the clean reinstall does not require the Win 10 key code at all. Haven't got time to do a clean reinstall for the DAW computer yet. A lot of people complained about this on the internet and they are right. I am surprised that you got it to work really fast after the straight update. If anybody here has any idea on how to do it, meaning update from Win 7 to Win 10, and not having to do a clean reinstall, then please let me know. dan
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/15 20:33:13
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dan le Hi all: It is really good that you got it to work well after the updates. For me, I did 2 updates and the computers work ok. Except that it is slow, boot up is slower than on Win 7, and network copying is very slow. For the non DAW computer, I did a clean reinstall from scratch, meaning erasing the whole hard drive and start new. For the DAW computer where it has my Sonar, I reverted back to Win 7. Had to say that after the clean reinstall, the non DAW computer works really fast, and everything is flawless. Btw, the clean reinstall does not require the Win 10 key code at all. Haven't got time to do a clean reinstall for the DAW computer yet. A lot of people complained about this on the internet and they are right. I am surprised that you got it to work really fast after the straight update. dan
You can do a clean install if you have enough room on Win10 for a dual boot, then you can keep your old OS. Install Win7 on the new partition first, upgrade to Win 10 (make sure you run the upgrade from Win7). Then wipe and install Win10 again. That way you can do it slowly slowly when you have the time. Clean install is generally a pretty good idea. BTW you don't ever need a key code, it's all in the cloud. dan le If anybody here has any idea on how to do it, meaning update from Win 7 to Win 10, and not having to do a clean reinstall, then please let me know.
If you upgrade to Win10 via your old Win7 configuration, you then will need to spend some time troubleshooting your specific issues. So either way it takes time, there is no magic solution sorry. You are better off just biting the bullet IMHO.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/15 20:42:46
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/16 02:52:11
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Thanks Dok. Doing a clean install is no problem, but reinstalling everything and authorize it is a pain, I will probably do it next week. dan
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/16 07:24:36
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NP. To add if you dual boot, if it ends up being a dead end you still can carry on with Win7. Win10 ended up being a dead end for me because my audio interface drivers are not ready (Focusrite working on it). Always recommend backing up to something like Acronis and an external hard drive first in case something goes tits up. Cheers...
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/16 13:18:40
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Most folks' experiences seem expected in a general sort of way (that is, some good, some bad, some ok). Also, seems that the issues are mostly (all?) hardware related, which is not surprising. I'll be waiting, or not upgrading at all, b/c I use too many pieces of hardware (four interfaces - crazy, I know, but I have three drumkits and then use an additional interface for mixing and rendering). It'll be interesting to see how this plays out with the various hardware manufacturers, hopefully in a good way.
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igiwigi
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Re: Windows 10, drivers, etc.
2015/09/16 16:45:27
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Enjoy Music making Stay with 7 and your stay In heaven. Win 7 is supported until 2020 stick with It if It ain't broke By then get a Quantum Super computer with and Argon Accumulator and Photon Lazered Ram (PLR).
post edited by igiwigi - 2015/09/16 16:55:21
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