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It is always "1709". Before and after Fall-update.
You must have a look on the BUILD-number.
1709 - 15063.674 before "Fall"
1709 - 16299.19 is the fall-update.

I get loads of missing .dll files when trying to launch Splat after this update. I ran latest version of VC c++ 2017 and it seemed to solve the problem. Then today I downloaded the early update for Splat and had to re-activate AD2 and some more .dll files are missing again. Something about grooveplayer >dll s missing. Windows 10 turning out to be a bit of a disaster.  

I've always had to register XLN plugins and anything that requires iLOK after upgrading Windows OS as it changes the computer's ESN (electronic serial number)
 
I tried updating to 1709 twice, 1st time it failed at about 70% in the final updating mode then rolled back and reinstalled 1706.
 After following all the steps and procedures listed for the Blue Screen error code which included check for disk errors scan, checking for all new driver updates, uninstalling Trend Micro virus protection, unplugging all unnecessary USB devices  I tried again and it failed again at 86% in the final updating mode, and rolled back again.
 It was kind of scary and agonizing wondering for an hour or so if this update was going to create compatibility issues that could/would knock my Scarlett 18i20 off line... Perhaps my router or printer or maybe refusing to let me reinstall Trend Micro??? 
 Screw that because if it ain't broken, no need to be the first in line for upgrades, especially if I have not much of an idea if I even need or want to use or "beta test" these upgrades.
 Only guarantee I know when upgrading is things change, and when things change, ****happens and that's not always a good thing. ;-(
 
I actually consider myself very lucky for only losing several hours of my time as everything is working correctly and my configuration hasn't changed, so I think I'll wait a couple of months before trying again.
 I've read some ugly reports by irate people who's computers are now in a Blue Screen perpetual loop state between BIOS and Windows starting, every time their machine starts to boot before they even get a chance to enter "Safe Mode".

I upgraded yesterday and today I have found something quite bizarre that I'm sure has to be caused by the upgrade.
 
I tried to open an MP3 in Windows Media Player and nothing happened, no error message of any kind but it just wouldn't play.
So I started going through my music library and found dozens that wouldn't play but most did.
 
I only went a little way through my library as it's gigantic and would take me all week but after finding about 15 songs and 2 complete albums that wouldn't play it was obvious that something was wrong.
They play fine in groove music and vlc player and they open in sound forge.
 
I run a dual boot system so I booted into my other version of windows 10 and the songs in question played fine so it has definitely been caused by the upgrade.
 
Really odd, wondering if I can uninstall windows media player and if so whether it would do any good.
 
Steve

I upgraded to 1709 this afternoon.
 
Just loaded SPLAT and then Kontakt, Sample Tank etc in separate tracks. It seems to me that SPLAT and the loading of plugins is way faster than before .. for me anyway. Way slicker ..
 
 

You don't get a complete new Windows 10 ("fresh install") anymore.  The new update procedure only installs what modules are needed.  This speeds up the download since it doesn't download a complete new OS.  
 
On the systems I've upgraded, the PC still runs (visually) the same speed as before.

I've just got off the phone to microsoft support and I'm not happy :-(
 
For those out there who use windows media player and have large music libraries I'm afraid you're either going to have to use another player or avoid the current, "1709" (Fall) Update because microsoft have just told me that they are dropping media player and it won't be able to play MP3's any more.
 
Not sure what I'm going to do, I have VLC player but I much prefer the lay out of media player when it comes to libraries and microsofts other player, "groove music" is just horrible in comparison.
 
Steve

I just checked my WMP and it still plays MP3's. ???
 

Does it make sense to the computer gurus on this forum that some users would have these all these missing .dll files and other users would have no problem at all? My computer hasn't updated itself yet, but I am so NOT a computer troubleshooting guy, and I am just mortified at the thought of Splat being inoperable because of a stupid Windows update. I hope I'm lucky enough to be someone whose system still works fine after the update.

fireberd
I just checked my WMP and it still plays MP3's. ???
 

And you definitely have the Fall update?
Mine plays some but for no reason that I can see refuses to play others and there is no apparent difference between the ones that do play and the ones that don't in terms of bit rate and other properties.
 
It's strange that yours do play, have you been through a lot of random MP3's to make sure?
 
The woman I spoke to at microsoft was quite certain that Windows media player is being dropped but couldn't tell me why my copy would play some MP3's and not others so she may well have been wrong in so much as, the fact WMP was being dropped had nothing to do with my problem which I suspect is the case.
 
My friends laptop has windows 10 without the new update and media player plays the MP3's fine.
 
I found this article about WMP.  http://www.fudzilla.com/n...s-windows-media-player
 
Either way, I am certain that the update has done something, reinstalling media player and deleting it's library hasn't resolved it so I'm now going through the 100's of players in the app store which is not something I wanted to be doing but perhaps I'll get really excited about a player that's everything I ever dreamed a media player could be and wonder where it's been all my life. 
 
Steve
 
 

Hi all,
Interesting, I  had to actually go looking for 1709 update.....or as they call it 'upgrade'. Most of the time I  am able to update through system updates....you know check for updates etc.... I  kept getting the notice that I  was up to date as of 10/21.......  went to micro assistance for the update. Took awhile, but now I have 1709. Haven't  had chance to check Splat,......took awhile for download. Now I  read that we should go back in and remove previous versions of win 10....I ll look into this further, unless someone knows the real scoop.
MJ

Steev
1709 is an upgrade, not an update, and it will change you configuration settings.
 Last upgrade on my main workstation (1706) changed the configured order of MIDI devices in Splat and I had to reroute everything to the correct ports and instruments. Grrr..
 
 I also had a similar problem where Windows Media player no longer recognized all .mp3's depending on bit rates.
 To correct that, all I had to do was to go into "Default App" settings, click on "Groove Music" which it most likely defaulted back to during the upgrade and choose Win Media Player from the drop down menu to choose it as the default player for music. Also scroll down and do this for default video player and Windows Media Player plays every format, even Quick Time .mov, .mp4, and DVD's.
 
Hope this fixes your problems, as it fixed mine.

Thanks Steev
 
I did try that but sadly no joy :-(
 
Steve

1709 build 16299.19 installed.
 
Only had to reregister Addictive products. Waves, iLok, interface  etc. all seem to be running pretty fine - no antivirus or other performance issues.
 
Gary
 
 

I upgraded to Windows 10 Home 1709 build 16299.19. I had to uninstall a Yamaha USB Audio driver which was preventing Sonar Professional from booting and then re-install it which cured the problem. I also had to re-authorize XLN Addictive. No re-authorization of any of the iLok licenses and that's about it. What I did noticed is that Windows 10 boots up much faster than before.                 

Back to Windows 10 Version 1703. Nothing but heartache with the 1709 Version. Seriously considering going right back to Win 7. Surely Cakewalk who make windows only DAWs must have some clout when it comes to major updates from Microsoft. TTS-1 which is a DX instrument refused to launch.