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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/24 00:15:53 (permalink)
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and as far as programs vs background there mister i know everything..


FYI these tweak has to do with processor affinity... a little hint for ya there..

Scott, since we got you fired up and on a roll... 
What is your opinion on the issue of core parking on Sandy Bridge CPU's? Necessary?, helpful, irrelevant? 

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/24 12:00:39 (permalink)

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/24 21:13:19 (permalink)
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/25 13:34:53 (permalink)
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/25 20:45:21 (permalink)
more options/?opinions:
 
http://www.native-instruments.com/knowledge/questions/847/Windows+7+Tuning+Tips+for+audio+processing
 
http://blog.dubspot.com/optimize-your-windows-7-pc-for-djing-music-production/
 
Another Windows area where it seems inexplicably difficult to get anything that is incontroverably correct guidance.
 
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/25 22:28:33 (permalink)
Thanks for the more recent info. on this slartabartfast. Both articles are the same?? But they do offer good advice to get started on areas where optimizations can be beneficial. Lo and behold, they also mention "Background Services". But their interpretation of the feature is more in line with my understanding of it:
"NI Support - Knowledge Base :: Windows 7 Tuning Tips for audio processing"

The "Processor Scheduling" setting lets you choose if your computer should process "Programs" with higher priority, or "Background Services" with higher priority.



And they also mention this:

"NI Support - Knowledge Base :: Windows 7 Tuning Tips for audio processing"

Please note that some applications may work better if the Processor Scheduling parameter remains set to "Programs." If your audio performance worsens after following the steps above, revert the setting back to "Programs." You may also refer to the documentation of the manufacturer of the software for more information on what setting should be used.


So they imply that it might work (YMMV) and since NI will also install server software on your machine, it would be to their advantage to propose this "tweak". This option is after all a "server-centric" feature, first and foremost.


I can't seem to wrap my head around the last sentence though. Are they referring to themselves, the application that needs a setting of "Programs" to function properly or Microsoft?

EDIT: For clarity...
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/25 23:22:02 (permalink)
And to confuse things even further, this whole debate about processor scheduling may have been moot. One word. MMCSS.

MSDN - Multimedia Class Scheduler Service





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 00:20:28 (permalink)
And why are we arguing about these issues and linking to opinionated and contradictory threads in user forums, and the websites of other hardware/software developers regarding the most efficient settings of Windows 7 for Cakewalk products? Or trying to pick the brains of people who put together dedicated DAW computers and guard their tweaks as trade secrets. Surely the close working relationship with Microsoft often implied by Cakewalk should have yielded a clear and concise list of recommended tweaks on the Cakewalk support/developer pages, easily accessible to all Cakewalk product users.
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 00:47:14 (permalink)
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I can't seem to wrap my head around the last sentence though. Are they referring to themselves, the application that needs a setting of "Programs" to function properly or Microsoft?

I think they're deferring to the DAW manufacturer. iow- they're not too certain themselves so they want to leave some wiggle room.
With respect to disabling power saving on each USB root hub, will connected USB devices still be able to power down when the computer is manually put into sleep mode?

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 00:50:00 (permalink)
It happens all the time for all sorts of reasons. Human nature?

"slartabartfast"
Cakewalk should have yielded a clear and concise list of recommended tweaks on the Cakewalk support/developer pages, easily accessible to all Cakewalk product users.

Amen to that. On the other hand and if the will was there, there's many very smart members in these forums that could contribute pearls of wisdom (including Scott and Jim). The expertise is here, and then some. It's just a question of all pushing in the same direction for everyone's benefit. But I'm rambling...





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 07:50:16 (permalink)
"Cakewalk should have yielded a clear and concise list of recommended tweaks on the Cakewalk support/developer pages, easily accessible to all Cakewalk product users."



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Noel B. Doesn't say much.
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Also, Jim R. basically sums up what all the links say in basic English here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2394883





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 08:51:20 (permalink)
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 11:16:41 (permalink)
"timidi"
Also, Jim R. basically sums up what all the links say in basic English here

I beg to differ. Jim's reply was generic and incomplete IMHO but I understand why he intervened, and I really don't have a problem with it.

"timidi"
No, RME also recommends this.

And for the sake of accuracy, your statement above is misleading and also incomplete. You're currently using a multi-core CPU..., RME in fact does not recommend using the "pseudo-tweak" under these conditions (I've provided the link to this info. above). Feel free to correct me if need be but, RME has made it clear that the tweak was beneficial for Wind2k/WinXP single core processors. They provide few numbers to back up this claim though.





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 11:48:53 (permalink)
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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 12:48:48 (permalink)
Do you accept my offer Scott?





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 17:47:11 (permalink)
i deleted all my posts, i had already said way too much.
i really do not want to discuss my tweaks..

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 18:49:05 (permalink)
Ok Scott, I don't have a problem with that either and will simply drop it. 

As for the other issue which I won't mention here, if you allow me to bring your attention to the thread that started it all, it is located here:

Management Engine Interface

I'm asking you a question in the last post that you never replied to. I would appreciate a response but will not insist if you're unwilling to do so.

I also have no problems in asking the forum moderators to delete this thread as it really does not serve any particular purpose anymore. Do you agree? I believe Tim would be of the same mind... but I could be wrong. If this is not possible, I have no problems with deleting my own posts. Fair enough?!






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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 20:10:24 (permalink)
In spite of the testosterone match, I did find this thread useful. I was unaware of the USB hub tweak. And I do appreciate that link to that NI FAQ.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/26 20:32:33 (permalink)
Anubis, please accept my apologies for seemingly ignoring your reply to my query, I was distracted. And I agree with your "wiggle room" assessment. 

Glad you managed to get something out of it. Come to think of it, so did I. 





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/27 00:11:04 (permalink)
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Anubis, please accept my apologies  

Accepted! Here's a secret tweak of mine for use with NVidia graphics cards, particularly on notebooks where they are more prevalent and problematic.
Open up Control Panel and then launch the NVIDIA Control Panel applet. On the left hand pane click on Manage 3D Settings. On the right pane click on the Program Settings tab.
The optimization involves the Feature called Texture Filtering- Quality. Using the Add button you can navigate to the executable file of your DAW and click Open. When you click on the line to the right of the feature, Texture Filtering- Quality, it will open a drop down box with five choices. Choose High performance, then click on the Apply button. Now when you run your DAW it will run in high performance mode bypassing all the fancy visual effects of the NVIDIA card. You can do this for any application not just DAW's.


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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/27 01:45:11 (permalink)
ive seen lists that include 20 different things..and all these tweaks like shuting off aero and stuff..
what it comes down to is we shouldnt need to tweak windows 7..i dont.
those who do are either have an obsession with playing with settings or have a computer that is inadiquit.
i try to spend more time on making music than i do tweaking things..sometimes it screws them up worse than it was..ive done it..only thing i do is adjust for performance..thats it.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/27 14:14:24 (permalink)
Hi Charlie,
 
While I get what you're saying (brute force makes tweaks less significant), you have to realize that Windows was first and foremost designed for "General Purpose" use.  Thus, a "vanilla" install of Win7 isn't fully optimized for DAW purposes.
 
We're looking for maximum sustained thru-put... while a general-purpose user (internet surfer running MS Outlook/Word/Excel) will likely care more about power-saving and battery life.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/27 20:13:36 (permalink)
what it comes down to is we shouldnt need to tweak windows 7..i dont.



If you're doing stuff with 10 softsyths, 80 tracks, tons of effects, all with low latency, you want everything that your system has under the hood.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/27 22:02:47 (permalink)
"timidi"
you want everything that your system has under the hood

My thoughts exactly.





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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/10/05 21:37:51 (permalink)
I think win7 is god enough for me to do anything maybe cause i'm just ues it o do somthing easy just like movie and typing.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/10/07 13:01:45 (permalink)
MS has for years produced a very weak security, the default number of operating systems, for which it has been rightly criticised. In fact, the safety of products used to be difficult to understand as well, but most are never used by the average user.

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Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/10/07 20:38:02 (permalink)
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MS has for years produced a very weak security, the default number of operating systems, for which it has been rightly criticised. In fact, the safety of products used to be difficult to understand as well, but most are never used by the average user.


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