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2011/09/16 16:27:13 (permalink)

Windows 7 tweaks anyone?

Anyone got any?
In particular, what's with all the hard drive security permission stuff? 

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/16 19:32:17 (permalink)
    Well, I've got a "tweak" per se, if you own an asus board and you loaded (or maybe not) any utilities.
    I found an asus app attached to the windows scheduling thingy. deleted it.

    I would just really like to know, what tweaks are there that eliminate all the windows bloat that was written to protect us from ourselves and loved ones. Such as anything to do with "permissions".

    Anybody? 

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/16 22:35:43 (permalink)
    That's called UAC ("User Account Control").  To disable that annoying garbage, go into the Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Change User Account Control settings.  Slide the slider down to "Never notify".  It will prompt you to reboot after clicking OK.

    After disabling UAC, all apps will run with admin permissions (as long as you're logged in as an admin) without prompting you with consent anymore.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 10:56:52 (permalink)
    timidi,

    the only other tweak is to set your power plan to custom and go through every
    option (there are a few) to make sure your system is running at full tilt and things like
    HD's etc don't get switched off.

    I've found that messing around with Win7 services can really make things unstable,
    my advice? Do the UAC and Power Plan and leave everything else as is.

    Good luck! =)

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 13:36:03 (permalink)
    Thanks Danny. Yea, the UAC thing is a no brainer. For a while there the power options wouldn't stick to where I put it "High performance". Kept reverting to "balanced power". Still curious as to why it did that and if it will stay at high. 

    I noticed the The default HD setting for High performance is 20 minutes. There is no "off" .

    i Still don't get Aero. And, I don't get all the security and administrator crap. 

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 13:59:54 (permalink)
    You can turn off the HD sleep setting, just keep arrowing down until you get to "Never".  Aero is just bling and an unnecessary resource hog... I disabled it.  Strange that your power plan would keep changing on you.  Try creating your own custom plan and see if it still does that.

    Another tweak you'd want to do is disable hibernation.  It's enabled by default and if you look at the root of your C: drive you will see the file called "hiberfil.sys" (if you have show hidden files enabled and hide protected operating system files disabled) and it'll be rather large depending on the size of your memory.  To disable this, go into a command prompt (run as administrator if UAC is on) and type:  powercfg -h off

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 14:10:41 (permalink)
    Dream,
    Disabled AERO?

    yikes!
    That ain't gonna sit well with the x64 crowd...

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 17:27:43 (permalink)
    And, I don't get all the security and administrator crap.

     
    Um yesssss....its working....the doubt....the inconvenience...soon they will be mine.
     
    MS has for years produced a very security-weak by default set of operating systems for which it has been rightfully criticized. Actually the security stuff used to be difficult to understand too, but most of it was never used by the average user. And the black hats loved it.
     
    For a single user in a non-networked environment, the administrator/permissions thing makes more sense if you realize that it is not the person that needs the permission, but the account, and not just to view the person's files, but to run any applicatons that are permitted to run under that account. So if you happen to acquire a piece of malware by whatever means that needs to install or run some nasty process on your machine, and it finds itself running under an unprotected (actually a fully permitted) account, it will have no problem working its nefarious magic. It will acquire/inherit the permissions from the user as it were, and find itself unopposed. If it does not have/inherit/acquire permission to run from the user, it will not run/install/f**k up your machine. If a process needs a permission that it does not have, the system will ask you for that permission. It is called User Account Control--not a bad concept in most cases--for a reason.
     
    There is very little legitimate activity that your computer needs to run, that will not run under the appropriate permissions. Some old software might have problems, but you can set that software to always run as administrator with a little (tiny tiny tiny) bit of effort. Doing so does not confer a similar level of immunity to other programs. It does not slow down your machine etc. to have appropriate permission levels. It does provide substantial protection from monsters devouring your system.
     
     
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 17:33:31 (permalink)
    Depending on the size of your graphics card memory it's generally better to leave Aero on.

    There are many threads discussing this but Cakewalk themselves advise to leave it on,
    and I've not noticed any drop in performance or glitches by doing so.

    Do a quick thread search for aero.

    But trust me, it's safe to leave it on =)

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 17:36:28 (permalink)
    The only other tweak that springs to mind is core parking (for quad core)

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 17:53:39 (permalink)
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    You can turn off the HD sleep setting, just keep arrowing down until you get to "Never".  Aero is just bling and an unnecessary resource hog... I disabled it.  Strange that your power plan would keep changing on you.  Try creating your own custom plan and see if it still does that.

    Another tweak you'd want to do is disable hibernation.  It's enabled by default and if you look at the root of your C: drive you will see the file called "hiberfil.sys" (if you have show hidden files enabled and hide protected operating system files disabled) and it'll be rather large depending on the size of your memory.  To disable this, go into a command prompt (run as administrator if UAC is on) and type:  powercfg -h off

    Without AERO it seems my graphics card doesn't use it's own memory (1gb) but rather system memory. With Aero, it appears my card uses it's own memory. I like that. I was having some issues with wav redraws and that seems to be working better now. However, that was after a complete 'start over' on all installs, so, maybe there was something else mucking up the visuals. 


    Thanks for the HD info and the hibernation thing..  I'll check it out.


    right now, I'm trying to change my search provider to google or at least get rid of all the 'Bing" crap that keeps popping up.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 17:54:58 (permalink)
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    The only other tweak that springs to mind is core parking (for quad core)

    Sorry for the ignorance but, what is that and where do I get it and what do I do with it when I get it?
    I have an i7 2600k.
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/18 19:33:09 (permalink)
    No worries =)

    Have a read through this:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?&m=1861804&high=core+parking&mpage=1

    Some say it's worth it, others say it's not.
    I did it because it evened out core usage on large cpu intensive projects,
    and again, it's something that Cakewalk themselves have advised in certain
    circumstances.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/19 22:26:47 (permalink)
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    No worries =)

    Have a read through this:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?&m=1861804&high=core+parking&mpage=1

    Some say it's worth it, others say it's not.
    I did it because it evened out core usage on large cpu intensive projects,
    and again, it's something that Cakewalk themselves have advised in certain
    circumstances.

    Hey Dan. I tried reading that and my eyeballs sort of rolled backed in my head and started spinning around.
    Could you just tell me what to do and how to do it? Thanks. I can see my first core is taking the brunt of the pounding.
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/20 07:34:34 (permalink)
    Other than the user options, such as the "power" settings, etc there isn't really much in the way of "tweaks".  I see a lot of various tweaks around the internet but most of those are for specific items and not for everybody.  Same way with some of the Cakewalk tweaks.  I've tried some of them on my system and it didn't make a bit of difference. 

    One thing I've learned, having worked almost my entire working career in computers (in maintenance, programming and support), and I'm now retired,  that the OS companies really do know what is best for their OS.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/21 13:26:25 (permalink)
    I pretty much agree fireberd.

    However, there are many annoyances with Win 7. Especially things like the UAC. The whole UAC 'thing' is what windows is all about. It's more of a protection system than an OS anymore. So, I'm simply looking mainly for the tweaks that disable all the crap that makes running a computer an aggravation. 

    I still get all kinds of warnings about doing this and that, even with the UAC slider all the way down.

    Lately, I was trying to unzip a file from a DVD and it kept coming up with some sort of "this is not encrypted" message, then failure. I moved the zip to my MAC, unzipped it and networked it back to the PC unzipped. What a pain.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/21 17:57:21 (permalink)
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    One thing I've learned, having worked almost my entire working career in computers (in maintenance, programming and support), and I'm now retired,  that the OS companies really do know what is best for their OS.

    i have to disagree with that one in regards to audio/video. particularly the further back you go (win98 for example) with that said
    we do far less tweaks in win7 than we did for XP.
    about 20ish now vs well over 50.
    Win98 was so bad we even disabled printing ability/parallel/serial ports etc etc.
     

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/21 18:08:58 (permalink)
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/21 18:17:15 (permalink)
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/22 06:34:03 (permalink)
    I guess I consider "tweaks" as something different.  I don't consider turning off UAC as a "tweak" or power settings, etc.

    I look at a "tweak" more as messing with the system such as changing a Registry setting, etc.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/22 18:07:50 (permalink)
    also in device manger disallowing the computer to manage power for the nic..



    Couldn't find this in device manager Scott. Is that all I get?


    Speaking of Aero, The only place I've found to 'turn it on or off' is whether or not you choose an Aero desktop background. Is that it? Or, is there a "turn Aero on/off" checkbox somewhere.


    "UAC off before installing ANYTHING (including drivers) "
    LOL,uh huh. pretty hard not to.
    Thanks


    JC, that's a pretty well documented tweak.




     

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/22 19:15:52 (permalink)
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    JC, that's a pretty well documented tweak.

    Which one are you talking about? And if it's the one I think... (priority to background services) you've got to be kidding me.
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/22 20:54:42 (permalink)
    you've got to be kidding me.



    No, RME also recommends this.

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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/23 08:04:42 (permalink)
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/23 08:11:28 (permalink)
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/23 13:54:07 (permalink)
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/23 14:07:28 (permalink)

    But if you want to assign/prioritize cpu cycles to background activities as you're working in your DAW (a foreground app.)... knock yourself out.

     
    Noel B (CTO at Cakewalk) doesn't recommend setting priority to Background Services.
    However the tweak was (is) still recommended by several DAW software companies... as they feel it provides more resources for processing (plugins). 
    With modern hardware, it doesn't make a significant difference.
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    Re:Windows 7 tweaks anyone? 2011/09/23 17:41:28 (permalink)
    Thanks scott. It's running better already. Had some trouble with my DVD player (At least the DVD player was the symptom) 
    and it seems to be working better. .:)

    here's the link from RME I mentioned:
    http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5462

    (the 2nd link).

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