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Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
I have platinum working well on Windows 7 Professional, I do have a random audio dropout at times but that is about it. Windows 10 free upgrade is it to my advantage to upgrade?
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:04:25
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I upgraded from Win7 to Win10 and never looked back. It's working great for me and it seems to have a snappier response. I'm a believer.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:04:49
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I upgraded with a result of better performance, no regerts or regrets!
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:05:14
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I did a long time ago. I haven't looked back. All my computers are Windows 10. That is my desktop my laptop and my tablet. BTW Sonar runs great on Windows 10. The only thing is having drivers that are Win 10 compatible.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:14:22
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☄ Helpfulby wetdentist 2016/05/13 11:17:40
I tried Win 10 upgrade in place on Win 8.1 DAW. In the past I alway did a clean install. I thought I would try in place and if it did not work, I would just bite the bullet and do a clean install. All my programs were still there and work flawlessly. I had to re-register AD and Melodyne since it was essentially a new machine, but that was it.
Do not do it from Windows update. Download the upgrade and make a USB stick or DVD so you have a permanent copy.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:17:09
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The upgrade process itself was way easier than I had expected. The OS itself seems pretty snappy. Still sometimes have to look for settings in different places.
Make sure to check if all your hardware has Windows 10 drivers and that all your favorite programs will run. Other than that, keep your authorization codes/files close as some software (e.g. Addictive Drums) will complain about the change of OS.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:17:53
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Just know this: Win 10 IS great, but I just had to replace one of my PCs motherboards (still the same HDD), and now I have to pay to re-register Windows. That feels a bit like Bait n Switch IMO.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 14:23:38
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LJB
Just know this: Win 10 IS great, but I just had to replace one of my PCs motherboards (still the same HDD), and now I have to pay to re-register Windows. That feels a bit like Bait n Switch IMO.
I have found that if you call the MS number for manual registration and explain the situation they usuallly give you the update activation free...
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 15:13:41
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Hi. I have Win 10 on both my laptop and studio pc, and I am very pleased. Updated my laptop via Windows update, and a fresh install on my studio pc. Both are stable, and would highly recommend it (the Windows update on my laptop is a bit intrusive. Win 8.1 home to Win 10 home). As others have said, make sure everything is compatible (Audio Interface, and Motherboard as LJB pointed out). All the best.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 15:30:54
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 15:48:40
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I am not a believer. however, if you only use it for your music rig, but do your browsing on W7, W8, or better yet, Linux, IMO you're a lot better off. Unless you do a lot of configuring, Microsoft is going to be mining your computer for data to sell to advertisers (and God knows who else). some may consider this paranoia, but anyway that's just my 3 cents (inflation). Personally, I am on W7 on my music rig, and I do my browsing on Ubuntu on another computer.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 15:57:36
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michael diemer
I am not a believer. however, if you only use it for your music rig, but do your browsing on W7, W8, or better yet, Linux, IMO you're a lot better off. Unless you do a lot of configuring, Microsoft is going to be mining your computer for data to sell to advertisers (and God knows who else). some may consider this paranoia, but anyway that's just my 3 cents (inflation). Personally, I am on W7 on my music rig, and I do my browsing on Ubuntu on another computer.
I have to strongly disagree with that for one simple reason: the Edge browser! Windows 10 is really far superior to 7 or 8 for browsing because of it: built-in Flash plugin (YAY!!!!!), much smoother response than Firefox, Chrome or IE. It doesn't support plugins yet (coming this Summer), and has some other limitations so I keep Firefox installed as well, but for instance the Dutch Public TV video player is very unpleasant on most browsers (laggy etc) but on Edge it's a delight. I just did a fresh install of Windows 10 PRO on my main machine and I have to say it outperforms Win 8.1 on the exact same hardware noticeably. Sonar Platinum runs beautifully, and my beloved MOTU PCI is flawless on it, with proper sleep/standby and wakeup. Even all my legacy 32bit VSTs from more than 10 years ago still work perfectly, even on this 64 bit modern OS. Suck on that Apple!
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 16:25:24
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/05/12 18:01:37
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 18:18:42
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The upgrade from 8.1 went flawlessly for me. XLN software and Independence Pro needed reauthorization.
I think 10 is the best Windows ever.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 20:16:48
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Yes, Windows 10 has been great and is the future of Windows. I wouldn't hesitate. Best of luck to you! 
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 20:42:15
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I did an inplace upgrade and had all sorts of problems. I found the easy fix was to create a new user with an admin account.
I'm not sure there is an improvement from 7 -10 in the latency dept. There's still a lot of features I need to remove from W10.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/12 20:44:16
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BMOG
I have platinum working well on Windows 7 Professional, I do have a random audio dropout at times but that is about it. Windows 10 free upgrade is it to my advantage to upgrade?
Make an image of 7 install W10 and make sure it is authorized, make an image of 10 then you can load the image after the free period is over.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 06:30:15
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I'm in the yes camp as W10 has been great here for the most part, certainly as solid as any previous Windows for me and smoother and slicker in many ways. I did in-place upgrades on three machines and had no major issues on any of them (some fiddling with drivers as they're older machines, but that's to be expected). I'm not too fussed about the phoning home as I figure that's an unfortunate feature of modern digital life and anyone who thinks they can get around it entirely is either a lot smarter and more focused on it than I'm ever likely to be, or more likely, fooling themselves.
But the best advice if you're worried is probably just above - err on the side of caution, make image backups so you have a clean option to go back if it turns out you hate it or the upgrade trashes your system, and see for yourself if it's for you or not. Chances seem pretty good, based on the results so far, that it will be...
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 06:47:45
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There are free utilies in the ’net to fith out the win10 authorisation code from the registry (like ProduKey). So the way to do a clean installation of Win10 goes like this:
1. Download the Win10 installation DVD ISO file and burn it to a disk (or, alternatively, to a USB memory stick or whatever).
2. Update your Win7/8 with the installation disk/memory.
3. Use the ProduKey or similar utility to get the authorisation code.
4. With this code, do a clean installation of the OS. Remember to check the settings during the installation. Then install your other software. (The ones you really use, not the ones you have installed but no longer use 8-) )
I have a habit to do a clean installation about once an year to keep the system running smoothly (during the 98/XP days it was more like every six months). I reserve a couple of days to get everything right in no hurry, althoug the Win10 clean installation took only a day.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 07:11:32
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LJB
Just know this: Win 10 IS great, but I just had to replace one of my PCs motherboards (still the same HDD), and now I have to pay to re-register Windows. That feels a bit like Bait n Switch IMO.
I myself can relate to this... I bought the windows upgrade from 7 to 8 back 2 years ago or so. I took advantage of the limited 10.00 USD upgrade for windows 7 users. when my old Hard Drive failed, I decided to go SSD. when I installed the new internal SSD, I used the same windows 8 disk that I downloaded from Microsoft (full windows 8 version) it wouldn't register. seems the upgrade I bought was just that, an upgrade, not a clean install. I was very disappointed. though it was more the hassle. I had to re install windows 7 all over again, then go through the upgrade all over again. probably my own fault for not making a system image. its just something to think about when going with the upgrades from Microsoft.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 10:28:01
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There is no simple answer as there aren’t two computers that are configured exactly the same.
Last year I updated three of my systems from Windows 7 to Windows 10. One of them was a clean install, the others weren’t. On one of the latter I finally had to throw in the towel and downgrade, as I spent way too much time trying to resolve all the problems that occurred after each and every Windows update. I constantly had to go back to the last restore point to temporarily bypass these problems. Despite thorough searches all over the internet, uninstalling non-compliant software, updating almost every driver I had, and repairing every Microsoft C++ library installed, I couldn’t find any solution to these problems on that PC.
The other two upgraded PC’s are working so and so. The Lenovo ThinkPad that actually had a clean install lost a few utility functions in the process.
But my two critical systems are still running Windows 7. I’ve never had a problem with Windows 7 and most likely I will keep them that way. Security patches will keep rolling in until 2020. Good enough. By then, the hardware will be obsolete anyway.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 10:33:34
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My main rig ain't Win 10 and so far I've had no problems. I keep it that way since I do have a TC FW interface that was problematical on 10 (although they have put out new drivers for their out of production line of interfaces).
I downloaded the upgrade but haven't done it so far. I'm not sure if that protects me from having to buy a copy of Win10.
I would plan for having to upgrade at some point to Win 10
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 12:16:24
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☄ Helpfulby LaszloZoltan 2016/05/16 23:52:56
I hate to be seen as a contrarian. Whoever said that you are fooling yourself if you think you can get around the tracking may be right. Whatever, here is my approach: I use a two-year old W7 Pro computer for my music. I update it monthly, but keep it offline the rest of the time. I use another computer for my browsing, and that is on Linux Ubuntu, although I have two drives in there with W7, but they are basically storage at this point. (They will not update for some reason). So I use the Linux for browsing. Very safe, very easy maintenance. And of course, free. I will continue to update my music rig through the W7 supported period, Jan 2020. Then I could just keep using it, but keep it offline. That's what I'm doing now anyway.
The problem of course is that time moves on, and if you don't keep your system updated, it's going to become obsolete at some point. Unless you are content to use it as-is forever. So, my long-term plan is to transition eventually to Linux for music creation. There are not many options right now. Bitwig is the most professional, but it doesn't have a staff view. I will probably go with Reaper, as they will be releasing their notation edition soon, and they are working on making Reaper Linux-capable. I just don't like the direction Microsoft is going in. They practically have a monopoly, and they are being increasingly aggressive about forcing people onto their products. It just doesn't sit well with me. A shame, because I used to love them. My affection has definitely been transferred to Linux.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/13 16:08:33
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Upgrade. Not only worth the price of free, its worth the price of an OEM copy for Win 10 Pro. Don't do it when you have something important on the same day.. The install leaves the old windows version intact if you need to roll back.
I ran into a few SMALL problems. 1 - the update left out the windows media toolset in my case. Sonar complained. I looked on the Microsoft website, found it, downloaded (its free) and updated. 2 - the option to have Windows auto update wasn't working cleanly so I turned it off. I have built a new PC and bought a new copy of Win 10 - it doesn't have the same problems. In neither case would I say hold back.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/15 21:45:55
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/16 16:33:57
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BMOG
I have platinum working well on Windows 7 Professional, I do have a random audio dropout at times but that is about it. Windows 10 free upgrade is it to my advantage to upgrade?
You might as well because eventually you'll have to (when support for win7 runs out) so you might as well get it for free now... or in the near future. Unless you're planning to switch to either Mac or Linux. :)
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/16 19:53:31
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LJB
Just know this: Win 10 IS great, but I just had to replace one of my PCs motherboards (still the same HDD), and now I have to pay to re-register Windows. That feels a bit like Bait n Switch IMO.
So what is the status on this? Quite curious since I have a W7 OEM license. Supposedly they are less tolerant in these situations.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/16 20:03:30
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Linux = waste of time. Meanwhile I solved an issue with a W10 in place upgrade. I had plenty of stability issues and the fix was to create a new user since my previous user folder was corrupt.
I had to reauthorize Live, XLN, IK and Reaper. There were plenty of programs I had to reinstall because of the corrupt user folder. I had Sonar create an IRQ less than equal error and the solution was to remove ASIO4All. I'm using an old Terratec card with Vista beta drivers and for some odd reason Sonar would call up the ASIO4ALL and crash. Reason will not accept my Terratec ASIO and now I use that in WDM mode only for Reason.
I can't say I notice anything in the W10 upgrade that makes me say WOW! over W7. The quick launch icons are smaller in W10 which means I can add more of them.
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/16 21:10:06
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BMOG
After reading some of the post about the security issues with windows 10 I came across this video that goes into detail about how Windows 10 using our keystrokes, data, etc..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kGMCfb2xw
Here is a link to a program that helps block windows way into your system
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
If one thinks MS is reading everything you type or is at all interested in the content one produces I believe you need to rethink this. Also it seems to me that MS would be in deep trouble if the above did occur. They are interested in how often you use Edge but where you go I'm not so sure about that. Google is doing that anyway. Plus if you consider the total number of windows installs world wide the data that would generate seems huge in simply alerting that windows has been loaded. Getting the entire content that all the computers generate in a day seems to me to be so large as to be useless on a personal basis. I really don't believe there is any cause for alarm. I read recently how MS is going back on its word and going to stop offering Win 10 free in July. The authors attribute this to many motives on MS's part. It was written as if no one knew that this would happen or that MS made this very clear when it began offering Win 10 to the users. I knew about it and I think many here knew about it. Yet this publication pretends it is new information. I think there is a lesson here and that is be very skeptical of anything that taken at face value would tend to inflame people. When we know the full facts its not so inflammatory. If you wish to read it yourself you can find it here http://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/50388-three-reasons-microsoft-stopped-free-windows-10-upgrades.html
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Re: Windows Free Upgrade Should I?
2016/05/16 21:17:43
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If you ever used a program like Zone Alarm it would warn of which programs kept track of your keystrokes. Most software and especially multimedia software does this.
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