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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 14:48:03
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I keep wondering, now that he knows what they are, if Beagle is willing to bite cankles to get becan?
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 16:10:39
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"There aren't enough Mac users who want to use something that isn't Apple."
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The Apple People develop a blind spot and can only think "Apple". They get so brainwashed that they consider Steve Jobs was a really terrific guy when in fact he had erased the thin line between being prickly and being a prick.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 16:14:54
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We're actually in agreement here Backwoods.
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2012/07/16 16:18:56
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 17:14:40
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"There aren't enough Mac users who want to use something that isn't Apple."
+1
The Apple People develop a blind spot and can only think "Apple". They get so brainwashed that they consider Steve Jobs was a really terrific guy when in fact he had erased the thin line between being prickly and being a prick.
People are happy being blinded by over-generalizations on both side (the above statement demonstrates that). ;) I use Logic because it suits my needs and of all the ones I've tried it's the most efficient to do what I am trying to do. Obviously, the fact that it is an Apple product running on their OS and their hardware probably helps. Whenever I switch to other applications, I do find myself missing the little extras - like being able to use the trackpad to navigate through the project, to zoom in and zoom out, and other such things that make working in Logic a breeze. But even w/o those little things, it'd still be an incredibly powerful application. In other words, I don't use Logic because it's an Apple product - I use it because it is frickin' great (and I thought it was a great piece of software way back in the eMagic days). It's a rather bold statement to put a label on all Logic users based on an assumption (furthermore when that assumption is based not on facts regarding the actual product but unfavorable bias towards a company and a certain category of users).
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 17:24:01
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You are right as rain, Mr rain But it must be said that Apple does have alot of fanatics- sort of like Nintendo or something like that. So does Sonar too of course :) Growing up, Mum and Dad bought us kids an Amiga (what an awesome computer that was!) but the first coimputer I ever bought was a macbook with a trackball- mid 90's. Logic has slipped behind the competition in everything but price (where I feel it leads the field, better than reaper even). I don't think Apple is interested in it. They want to move iApps. I will be interested to see Logic X, if it ever eventuates. Sorry if I offended Rain.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 17:28:45
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So should Sonar be ported to anything? Linux.. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will continue to write an OS that will support Sonar. The backward compatibility with Windows 7 in Windows 8 comes with warnings from MS that eventually they will be moving to all Metro at some time in the future. Metro does not even come close to being a viable platform for serious audio work in its current form, and in the event that it does add the direct access code that would bring latency within a useful range, it would require pretty much a re-write of Sonar to run it on Metro. Linux remains a very iffy development platform. There is no guarantee that development will follow any given path in the future. One cost of free is that volunteers may not be interested in writing the code you need. Of course, Microsoft is not that predictable either apparently. Maybe the solution is for a consortium of DAW developers to take on the design and support of a Linux sound library that will run high end audio applications.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 17:43:50
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No offense, man. I'm well aware that there's a lot of zealots onboard w/ all things Apple. Usually, if I meet a musician or a producer who isn't working w/ Pro Tools, most of the time, it's because he's done his homework and didn't just succumbed to hype. (That's an over-generalization right there concerning Pro Tools users, I know... ;) A lot of the Logic users I know are also older folks who've been using Logic since way back or have used different things like Cubase and Sonar before - the people preoccupied w/ trendiness seem to have gravitated towards Live, Reason and Pro Tools LE. Still, I don't see how you can put forward a comment such as "Logic has slipped forward the competition in everything". Do you have any first hand experience w/ it? Can you tell me where it falls short of meeting your demands? Honestly, most of the complains I've heard were voiced by those "international DJ" who are such pros that they can't even pick the right tool for the gig. User's mistake 90% of the time. Logic 9 came out 3 years ago. It was the first to implement swipe comping (which others are starting to borrow), Varispeed, and other such features which have yet to make their way into, uh, Sonar, for exemple. I mean, it's not because Presonus "borrowed" the GUI and the Cakewalk borrowed that same GUI and went on to implement things like screensets (which have been in Logic forever) that Logic fell behind them...
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 18:01:50
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Apple users will tell you that they don't have to deal with any issues when dealing with a mac, unlike a PC........Then get a load of apple users together, and when they think there are no PC users listening, then they open up and they are start whinging.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 18:53:16
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So should Sonar be ported to anything? Linux..
Maybe the solution is for a consortium of DAW developers to take on the design and support of a Linux sound library that will run high end audio applications.
I like this idea... :-)
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:36:57
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Apple users will tell you that they don't have to deal with any issues when dealing with a mac, unlike a PC........Then get a load of apple users together, and when they think there are no PC users listening, then they open up and they are start whinging.
Yet another over-generalization which only contributes to stall the discussion and make sure that we never get above a certain level. You know that some people don't define themselves as PC users or Mac users just like there's dumb people on the corner of every street in every city - regardless of whether they use PC or Mac, they're still dumb. I used too build own my PC - now I'm on Mac. So what. You're on PC - does it mean you never had a GF, and that you spent every Friday night of the last 20 years playing Dungeons and Dragons - because that's the only social life you have - that you eat nothing but Pizza Pockets and soda pops, wear white socks, and have posters of Xena all over your studio walls (which is located in your parent's basement?)
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:42:37
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You're on PC - does it mean you never had a GF, and that you spent every Friday night of the last 20 years playing Dungeons and Dragons - because that's the only social life you have - that you eat nothing but Pizza Pockets and soda pops, wear white socks, and have posters of Xena all over your studio walls (which is located in your parent's basement?)
WOW! Seems like I'm a true die hard PC user after all...   I actually feel like I belong for once in my life. Just a point though, I do eat cereal as well.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:43:47
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WT? is wrong with white socks?
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Try bleaching black socks and see how that goes. Same thing for the argyles.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:50:29
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To be clear I've nothing against Macs other than the idea that one day they may become compulsory.
I also stated that I don't intend to get connected to any of Apple's milking machines subscription services any time in the future.
That has nothing to do with bashing Mac users, but I do enjoy doing that also.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:51:54
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Scoot
Apple users will tell you that they don't have to deal with any issues when dealing with a mac, unlike a PC........Then get a load of apple users together, and when they think there are no PC users listening, then they open up and they are start whinging.
Yet another over-generalization which only contributes to stall the discussion and make sure that we never get above a certain level. You know that some people don't define themselves as PC users or Mac users And many do. My comment was regards those that do, and with them the generalistion fits, these were DAW users.
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2012/07/16 19:53:09
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My experiences with iTunes and iPods, both of which I still use, have been enough to put me off Apple
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 19:56:48
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You're on PC - does it mean you never had a GF, and that you spent every Friday night of the last 20 years playing Dungeons and Dragons - because that's the only social life you have - that you eat nothing but Pizza Pockets and soda pops, wear white socks, and have posters of Xena all over your studio walls (which is located in your parent's basement?)
It's like John Maclean said in Die Hard 4 when the terrorist complained that someone had bought him to the "command centre". "This isn't a command centre- it's your parents basement". And hey, what's wrong with Zena, lucy Lawless is a good New Zealand girl. Unfortunately, she is a bit of a monkey-wrencher, save the environment born again hippie nowadays. I've used 7.2 extensively and i'll give you screensets. Can't say that Sonar has copied swipe comping alas. But about the GUI I wouldn't agree. Logic feels archaic to me. Very un-Apple. You might as well say Sonar and Presonus stole the Project 5 gui. That would be more accurate.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 20:06:48
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My experiences with iTunes and iPods, both of which I still use, have been enough to put me off Apple
I've used Windows ME. Windows suck. :s Many Mac users do define themselves as Mac user. And if you rely on internet forums to make an opinion, you might get quite a disproportionate ratio. Most of the musicians and producers I meet have one thing in common - they don't care. That's why they use Mac. They don't care that a finely tuned PC blows any Mac out of the water. They don't care that you can tweak Windows to cook your breakfast or skin it to look like a Mac. Typically, these guys are the extreme opposite of the obsessed geek who builds his PC, shops around for the latest components and constantly tweak his machine. My brother-in-law is the extreme example of that - he still runs an old G4 and PT MIX hardware. He's also one of the most talented mix engineers I've ever met. In fact, the more you meet, the more you realize that they are the exact opposite of typical compulsive Mac-addict. A lot of them run dated machines, legacy hardware, OS 9, Pro Tools 5 and whatnot.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 20:19:40
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You're on PC - does it mean you never had a GF, and that you spent every Friday night of the last 20 years playing Dungeons and Dragons - because that's the only social life you have - that you eat nothing but Pizza Pockets and soda pops, wear white socks, and have posters of Xena all over your studio walls (which is located in your parent's basement?)
It's like John Maclean said in Die Hard 4 when the terrorist complained that someone had bought him to the "command centre". "This isn't a command centre- it's your parents basement". And hey, what's wrong with Zena, lucy Lawless is a good New Zealand girl. Unfortunately, she is a bit of a monkey-wrencher, save the environment born again hippie nowadays.
I've used 7.2 extensively and i'll give you screensets. Can't say that Sonar has copied swipe comping alas.
But about the GUI I wouldn't agree. Logic feels archaic to me. Very un-Apple. You might as well say Sonar and Presonus stole the Project 5 gui. That would be more accurate.
7.2 came out in in what, 2006? Of course by today's standards, it's behind the competition. Version 8 was particularly painful it seems - because that was a transition period. Kind of like X1 when it cam out. But 9 is a different story. I'm not even waiting for 10. I could say that I'd like a better freeze function - though I am getting used to bounce in place. Sonar has the best Freeze implementation, imho. Inspector on the left, tabbed views at the bottom, browser on the right - Studio One even replicates the large transport at the bottom. I'm not going to pretend that Logic is perfect - and GU-wise, it is a bit boring. Though at least it is consistent, and there's nothing that jumps out as offending to anyone w/ a sense of aesthetics. I do hope they bring back a bit of contrast.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 20:21:31
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The thread was not about mac vs pc. Sonar is already working on PC... Not to mention the fact, that we are a few years shy of complete cloud deployment of our music tools.
For all we know, Muto had to Re-code, re-write or, "whatever," digital performer because they want to deploy on Windows Azure, instead of, "Candy Apple," or whatever snazzy name Apple is going to come up with next."
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/16 20:36:19
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The thread was not about mac vs pc. Sonar is already working on PC... Not to mention the fact, that we are a few years shy of complete cloud deployment of our music tools.
For all we know, Muto had to Re-code, re-write or, "whatever," digital performer because they want to deploy on Windows Azure, instead of, "Candy Apple," or whatever snazzy name Apple is going to come up with next."
My answer to your original question was that I didn't care one way of the other as I'll be continuing with the PC anyway. What's the best that's going to happen when you bring up the idea of a Mac version of a native windows app? It was bound to descend into PC vs Mac debate, there is a universal law that states it has to... I'm looking forward to when we can all argue the case for our favourite mobile devices and handsets, there is so much more scope for more diverse and elaborate flame wars in the future... 
Not to mention the fact, that we are a few years shy of complete cloud deployment of our music tools. Are you sure about that, have you seen the plans for Bitwig which is currently in beta, seen the Propellerheads new plug-in format, bought anything from the 'Custom Shop' of your favourite Amp Sim lately? Complete deployment maybe some ways off but there's plenty of it arriving daily already. Can you even buy Logic in a box anymore or even from an independent reseller as a download (I don't know the answer to that btw)? I've seen the future and currently it's looking like it's all gone 'pear-shaped'.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 04:26:35
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"There aren't enough Mac users who want to use something that isn't Apple."
+1
The Apple People develop a blind spot and can only think "Apple". They get so brainwashed that they consider Steve Jobs was a really terrific guy when in fact he had erased the thin line between being prickly and being a prick.
Actually, this is not what I meant. And I'd say you're wrong in your statement there by the way. What I meant is that Apple users lean towards using Logic for the reasons Linear Phase said in the OP. And this is a rather important part of this whole thread and this is also the reason why MOTU port DP to Windows for example. I wasn't intending to slam Apple nor their users. Also, that quote is related to Mac DAW users, of which there aren't many compared to the Windows counterparts, not everyone else.
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2012/07/17 04:55:51
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I actually had hopes that this thread would have a reasonable and healthy discussion - since the OP actually had some well thought out points. Well, whatever Maybe next year? I have to say, though, Apple haters are so much more annoying than the Apple fanbois IMHO. I don't even see the point to be so angry about one or the other. Apple is Apple and Windows is everything else. And it's the world's most used platform. Don't worry, Windowsers already won But both Windows and OSX are great platforms and they run on excellent hardware. We can do whatever we want no matter what we choose to use - except when they crash, which both PC's and Mac's do all over the world at every second of the day. Mac's just have a much better way to deal with it - but my PC is cheaper. BTW - my DAW is a PC, my live laptop is a PC, my office machine is a PC, I have an iPad, and iPhone and I'm saving up for a Mac Mini to use as a media centre, I use both Macs and PC at the post studio I freelance in and I can't stand Pro Tools - but I still work in it when I have to Either way, I try not to be biased towards anything. But what I prefer is Sonar X1 on a PC In an attempt to de-rail this de-railed thread to where it started: If Sonar was ported to Mac, it would be a disaster for Cakewalk. I can agree. The development and support costs, I'm guessing based on what they say about DP, would be too much compared to what revenue Cakewalk would make of the Mac users who bought Sonar, of which there wouldn't be that many - I'm sure. Not that Cakewalk completely ignores Mac users, their instruments are Mac compatible and now z3ta+2 is being ported to Mac as we speak. So not making Sonar Mac compatible is probably a well calculated desicion. However, I think it would not be that hard as it were ~10 years ago since the hardware architecture is almost identical these days. But what do I know, I'm not a programmer. Either way, I'm happy that Sonar is what it is and that they manage to keep the price low. As far as the future goes - we're already screwed! Ever used Google? Then they own your arse! But that's a different thread
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 06:28:01
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Scoot
My experiences with iTunes and iPods, both of which I still use, have been enough to put me off Apple
I've used Windows ME. Windows suck. :s
Many Mac users do define themselves as Mac user. And if you rely on internet forums to make an opinion, you might get quite a disproportionate ratio.
Most of the musicians and producers I meet have one thing in common - they don't care. That's why they use Mac. They don't care that a finely tuned PC blows any Mac out of the water. They don't care that you can tweak Windows to cook your breakfast or skin it to look like a Mac. Typically, these guys are the extreme opposite of the obsessed geek who builds his PC, shops around for the latest components and constantly tweak his machine. My brother-in-law is the extreme example of that - he still runs an old G4 and PT MIX hardware. He's also one of the most talented mix engineers I've ever met.
In fact, the more you meet, the more you realize that they are the exact opposite of typical compulsive Mac-addict. A lot of them run dated machines, legacy hardware, OS 9, Pro Tools 5 and whatnot.
I've already stated I'm reverring to people I know. Brighton in England probably has more Macs per population that the rest of the UK. I'm not relying on the interent, I'm stating my experience My issue with iTunes is it's got worse, iTunes store has lost fuctionality. Trying to get through to their customer services is a ball ache. Its not the blissful experince Mac users tell you to your face, but more the experience they tell each other
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2012/07/17 06:44:22
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Roland dropped 29 yen just yesterday. That was 4.73% of it's value. A few years ago that would have only been a 0.9% hit. It dropped from 679Y to 584Y in the past 8 days... and that's more like 14%. Cakewalk is pushing copies of Ozone Stutter edit to keep the keeping on, keeping on. Maybe Z3tA sales for Mac will turn it all around. If that happens... well, you know what's next. Bright shiny iPads for eveybody!!! Oh yeah I forgot... no iOS support. :-S I'm stocking up on strings for my acoustic guitar.
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2012/07/17 07:21:14
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I actually had hopes that this thread would have a reasonable and healthy discussion - since the OP actually had some well thought out points. Well, whatever Maybe next year? Threads only degenerate when somebody gets angry and personal at the fact that someone has an opinion that differs from their own. I pointed out that I'd answered the OP's original question in full. I always tend to stick to the point of principle that seems relevant to the discussion. I've noticed that's when people start getting nasty and personal. A good recent example I stick up for the no advertising rule in the TOS people start hatin' or adapting that condition of the TOS to where it suits them. To be fair though more people spoke out in favour of the stance I took than those that took umbrage. I NEVER get personal until I'm first attacked and end up needing to defend my stance....period. Why do people feel the need to comment on the commentary? I think Apple have aims for monopoly that make anything that MS have done look like they are a freindly local community store in comparison. That's how I see it. I can't help it. So why damn other folk for having an opinion? Disagree with an opinion by all means, share your own views it adds to the discussion. Commenting on the commentary in order to sanctify a personal view of yours however is destructive. IMHO of course. I find it an increasingly scary phenomena that folk will more readily attack a peer on a community in order to support a coporate interest, and notably, usually one they've already bought into. Fortunately I think it is merely because these forums are very male oriented so most good sense that would normally be available to a community is clearly absent. I can't see any past or present partner of mine thinking of supporting a company with advanced orders because the TV remote only works in certain circumstances and she'd hope that by ordering in advance in continued support of the manufacturer that they would have the funds to fix the issue and come up with a better product in the future which is a rationale often seen here. Again that's only my lil' ol' view on the subject. btw did anyone have an answer to whether Logic was available anywhere other than from Apple?
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 07:59:54
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Relax Jonbouy - I only meant that this shouldn't have become a Mac vs PC debate, of which there are more of on the internet than there are pebles in Wales, but a debate about why Sonar shouldn't be ported over to Mac. I hope that is clear from the rest of that post you've partially quoted there. If not, thenI can tell you now that it was what I was trying to say. Commenting the comment is what took this thread further off track and I agree, it's stupid. I commented back when something was commented already and tried to set it straight. As far as geting personal, nothing here was personal until someone hinted that all Mac users are stupid - which is a load of BS no matter how you put it and will surely offend people. As far as what else you write there, I don't understand it because it doesn't really relate to what I've tried to put forward in all my posts in this thread. If what I wrote come across as personal, I apologise - that was never my intention. If your entire post is in response to what I wrote, I think you read too much into a small part of what I wrote. No need to worry, we're all friends here
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 08:00:10
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I've used both PC and Mac, and back when I had a signmaking company, both at the same time. Can't say that either would make me a rabid supporter, they both did what they were supposed to do.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 08:06:22
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Relax Jonbouy I'm always relaxed, even when I take on the role of pantomime villain and folk start to boo and hiss... No I wasn't citing you in particular in commenting on the commentary, you just fed me the best example of it so far in this thread... It isn't that people have conflicting views that is a problem it's when the emotionalism gets attatched to one side or another when things go downhill, that's what I was trying to illustrate in my observations that extend outside of this particular thread.
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Re:Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?
2012/07/17 08:13:03
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Ah, gotcha. He he, I just hate having quotes taken out of context. Then it ends up being a useless bicker about semantics where no one understands eachother and it's just a waste of time. BTW the quote, it's a joke - post #2 or #3 or whatever said there will be another thread like this in January 2013 according to the regular schedule. There's was a smiley there too But hey, is it just me who thought Linear Phase had some good points? And Rain has chimed in with some good points too, although mostly buried in the "off"-topic. McCue has a really good one. So did Slartabartfast. Maybe we've said it all already?
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