Would Sonar getting ported to Mac would be a total disaster?

Thread Disclaimer: In the Coffee House, so if it gets out of hand, it could be deleted or locked or whatever.


Basically, I'm amazed Digital Performer is making the trip to Windows.  I don't read KVR ( Banned from Kvr )..  So I totally found out about this tonight.  Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2617452

Ofcourse, reading that info, prompts many a google/bing search..  Returning quite a bit...

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/01/digital-performer-runs-on-windows-hell-freezes-over-sonar-left-in-the-cold/

"Sonar left in the cold he says."

I'm not going to link the KVR threads, and obviously, you can find em..  Its mostly people complaining about Apple, while they wind each others xlr cables, and express excitement about the DP's v8.

Years ago, when I used to use Mac, I really wanted to try out Sonar, and Z3ta, and honestly, it may have even been worth switching from Mac, or grabbing a PC to use Sonar with.  ( Rarely, if ever, have I had two computers powerful enough to run Music Software at the same time. )

So if I was so sweet on trying out Sonar, why do I now think it would be a disaster for Cakewalk to port the program to Mac?  In one sentence...  Apple will slash the price of Logic to $99.  I'm fully convinced, and I think its pretty standard to see why, and the implications of that.

So should Sonar be ported to anything?  Linux..  I could make a great long argument, about Sonar being ported to Linux, and how I think that would be a successful move.  But alas, its not without its cons.  Actually, I think preparing for a move to the cloud, and doing instruments across Os X and Windows is quite smart.

You know..  As musicians, I think we begin to care about our tools, and really like the companies we work with.  I'm a huge fan of G & L, and Carvin Guitars.  Marshall Amps, and obviously, I've become really partial to certain software companies...

Mostly, I think Peter Kirn gets it wrong, when he says, "Sonar left in (Windows-Only) Cold."  I'm quite sure, we will now hear massive outcry for Sonar to be ported to Mac, and I wanted to express my opinion.

Steve Jobs was not an evil man.  He was definitely, "one of if not," the greatest marketer to have ever lived.  Upon his death, Apple has changed rapidly, and looks to me, much more like a Walmart, or McDonald's.  You are welcome to make your own judgement, as to why I would make those statements... But really now, I think the importance of Apple has peaked, and now we will begin to see its long, slow decline, to "sony-ville."


The cloud..  That is where everything is going.  That is where products like Amazon and Azure are dominating the platform.  Why fight it out with Logic's eventual $99 price.  Its so obvious why Digital P is coming to Windows Land.  

And as we who have been reading the Cakewalk blog have heard, "Windows 8 is supposed to be a killer OS for Audio."

:-)


Cheers.... 

I'm waiting for the January 15th, 2013 reappearance.

The only way it would be a total disaster is if it became Mac only.

Even then it wouldn't be a total disaster, for me at least, because I'd simply choose another Windows app.

It ain't happening though so I don't even know why I posted this.

Bapu?

Jonbouy


The only way it would be a total disaster is if it became Mac only.

Even then it wouldn't be a total disaster, for me at least, because I'd simply choose another Windows app.

It ain't happening though so I don't even know why I posted this.

Bapu?

Hmmmm... I actually don't know what I'd do. It's an unlikely scenario but if I could get the cash I'd might follow Sonar over to Mac. However, I can't know for sure unless it becomes reality.

honestly I would be fine if cake decided to create a mac version.  then maybe all the whining and crying about it not being available on mac would stop.















or would it? 

But at least your near Cambersands, so when the sun does appear in late September you're sorted 

I'm in Hove (Actually)

Yeah, salubious......I'm just off the the Beach with Water Resistant Minus Factor 15

bapu

craigb


I'm waiting for the January 15th, 2013 reappearance.

Bookmark this one. Just in case the Mayans were right.

Actually, I'm counting on the Mayans being right so I don't need to read the next go-around.

Well..  If your goal is to sell music stuff, you are dealing with a group of professionals who have lost their income.  How many people got paid when this was released?

How many roadies, engineers, ticketing agents, venue owners, a & r execs, hardware companies, tape companies, advertising agents... I mean, "the whole global economy has changed." 





Oh ok...  See now, when Justin Bieber releases an album..  a few people get paid.  When Alice Cooper released Trash...  "lots, and lots of people got paid." And Alice and the Band got really paid...  but tons of people got nicely paid.  Its totally different now.


Furthermore.. You can't do an artist like Alice Cooper, Micheal Jackson, The Beatles, Mettallica, MegaDeath, Run DMC, Beasty Boys, The Cars ( The Cars was a studio band.  They made their whole living on records and almost never toured. )...

Tom Petty, Bruce Springsteen, Miles Davis, Chuck Berry, Tina Turner...   All would be hard pressed to have a music income today.


The only thing in music, that seems to be working right now is, "One Direction, Katey Perry, Adele, Justin Bieber, Usher."  I'm sorry but these people are not talented.  And the 20 producers who keep making these idiot tracks on FM radio are not enough to support a software company.

Linear Phase


Well..  If your goal is to sell music stuff, you are dealing with a group of professionals who have lost their income.

Unless you deal with Apple...

When I was very young I got very distressed about the cows being rounded up to be milked.  My Grandmother re-assured me that they actually enjoyed the twice daily routine and would mostly turn up voluntarily when it was the right time.  I never really bought into the idea.

However, after seeing internet marketing in action more recently and see people queing up in  a very similar way I'm thinking now that she was right all along.

Beagle

Jonbouy

Linear Phase


Well..  If your goal is to sell music stuff, you are dealing with a group of professionals who have lost their income.

Unless you deal with Apple...

When I was very young I got very distressed about the cows being rounded up to be milked.  My Grandmother re-assured me that they actually enjoyed the twice daily routine and would mostly turn up voluntarily when it was the right time.  I never really bought into the idea.

However, after seeing internet marketing in action more recently and see people queing up in  a very similar way I'm thinking now that she was right all along.

so what you're saying is that we all enjoy getting "milked" and we show up with our credit cards in hand whenever "it's time?"    profound!  I wonder if cake is aware of this? 

This has now gone far beyond artistic integrity   

it was just a joke guys. 

never mind.  I'll retract.

it was just a joke.  if I have to explain the punchline then obviously it wasn't a good joke.  if the participants of the thread I'm making a joke in don't "get it" then what's the point of continuing to post about that joke in that that thread?

The retractions are detracting and overreacting if not exacting.