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Would you buy a Wrong strat?


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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 02:07:12 (permalink)
The only Strat I would buy would be so hyper customized with jumbo frets/scallopped neck/hot rod electronics and whatnot it would be so expensive I could never afford the thing (and if I could I'd probably spend the dough on something even cooler/more useful).
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:07:30 (permalink)
I already have the right start. The first quality instrument I ever bought, it was my main and only guitar until a few years ago when I moved to Les Paul's and SG. It's the oldest thing I own, everything else has been left behind, given away or sold.
 

 
21 years of black strat. No mod, no nothing, although she is now in dire need of some TLC. Eventually, I suppose...

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:08:22 (permalink)
In the eighties' in NYC. my friend had this beautiful, what might have once been blue strat, that was worth a considerable amount of money.  He was living with a beautiful, but very blue actress on the Upper East side of Manhattan. After an intense argument, the said, (or sad) blue actress, tossed the beautiful, but once blue strat out of their five story walk up window. Luckily, no one but the guitar was injured. After much work the guitar was restored, but was never worth the same money. Chicks, go figure...
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:23:22 (permalink)
Heheh. Look at the skinny frenchie weirdo kid!
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:26:07 (permalink)
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Heheh. Look at the skinny frenchie weirdo kid!
 
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LOL
 
Yeah, I was quite skinny indeed - no matter how much I ate and drank. I have to be a bit more careful now. 
 

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:27:54 (permalink)
Seriously tho...
 
If she's anything like my old Ibanez (that I've been toting around since I was 15) she probably needs at least a few frets replaced.
 
Otherwise a fret grind/polish and some pot cleaning (and general electronics checkup) should get her back in order right quick.
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 03:31:31 (permalink)
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Heheh. Look at the skinny frenchie weirdo kid!
 
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LOL
 
Yeah, I was quite skinny indeed - no matter how much I ate and drank. I have to be a bit more careful now. 
 




I hear ya. I was 28" waist (at 6'4") until my mid twenties.
 
That just ain't right.
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 06:03:34 (permalink)
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I hear ya. I was 28" waist (at 6'4") until my mid twenties.

 
Yep, me too!
 
Even now, with my over-sized gut (that I'd love to lose), I'm still only wearing 34" waist pants...
 

 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 06:09:14 (permalink)

How about this one?  This is a picture I took of Walter Trout's '73 Artic White (really!) Strat on my table to have the broken D string replaced.  If someone left it next to a trash can, you might just leave it there!  But, WOW!  What tone it has!

 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 06:49:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2017/11/19 08:19:27
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(at 6'4") until my mid twenties


How tall are you now?

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 08:23:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/11/19 16:27:24
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Beepster
 
I hear ya. I was 28" waist (at 6'4") until my mid twenties.

 
Yep, me too!
 
Even now, with my over-sized gut (that I'd love to lose), I'm still only wearing 34" waist pants...
 





Pfft. Both of my waists are still 26''.

 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 14:59:26 (permalink)
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I already have the right start. The first quality instrument I ever bought, it was my main and only guitar until a few years ago when I moved to Les Paul's and SG. It's the oldest thing I own, everything else has been left behind, given away or sold.
 

 
21 years of black strat. No mod, no nothing, although she is now in dire need of some TLC. Eventually, I suppose...


You should get blackie fixed up Rain. I love the versatility of being able to flip from my LP to ES335 to Strat, depending in the song and tone I'm after. I've learned to really appreciate the attributes of each.

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 15:33:42 (permalink)
I has a 1985 Japanese Black Strat with active electronics and a single space bridge humbucker.
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 15:35:35 (permalink)
I don't have a strat, would really like one.

 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 15:41:25 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I think I would rather have the WRONG START!

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 15:41:28 (permalink)
I'm a Ibanez guy. Had a Jackson Custom from 92 and had to sell it to get more Ibanez's. The rest of my guitars i have owned and own today is Ibanez. Will newer buy others.

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 22:40:15 (permalink)
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I already have the right start. The first quality instrument I ever bought, it was my main and only guitar until a few years ago when I moved to Les Paul's and SG. It's the oldest thing I own, everything else has been left behind, given away or sold.
 

 
21 years of black strat. No mod, no nothing, although she is now in dire need of some TLC. Eventually, I suppose...


You should get blackie fixed up Rain. I love the versatility of being able to flip from my LP to ES335 to Strat, depending in the song and tone I'm after. I've learned to really appreciate the attributes of each.



I've often started planning to have it fixed. Then I start thinking about the things I'd want upgraded and before long I end up with an entirely different guitar in mind. Maybe someday I'll get it done. But it won't be cheap - actually, that's part of the problem.
 
For the same kind of money, I could probably get a brand new Mexican strat - which would also allow me to opt for a rosewood neck, something I'm more interested in at this point.
 
In fact, I suspect that besides the tuners and the bridge, pretty much everything else needs fixing or replacement. Not to mention that if I had the choice, I'd probably put a classic bridge on it. So that leaves me with tuners. lol

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/19 22:58:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2017/11/19 23:16:25
The only thing left original on mine is the body and the bridge. Everything else has been replaced overtime. I put a new neck on it last year, rather than do a refret. I’ve done all of the work myself though, so that helps. I mostly would watch for used parts in good condition off eBay or other sites.

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 13:28:04 (permalink)
Used is the way to go when it comes to modifying a worn out Strat or making a Pseudo Strat Partscaster .
A lot of people sink all kinds of money into " The Thrill Of The Chase " types of guitars they have bought and eventually went out and modded .
Once they get bored or if they have their eye on something else they usually find out that they won't be able to get back the money they sunk into their guitar ... some guys will sell them at a loss . Others guys may just put the guitar up for sale a separate parts ..ex ...neck w machines ,  empty body or with electronics ...pick ups only ...they may even sell off all the old stuff that came with the guitar ...
it takes patience to find the deals ...I have gotten some good deals off those type of sellers ...
 
The main Strat I have I bought new in 86 ..she is an E Series American Standard ...right around 91 my neck pick up went MIA and died . I was playing out a lot back then and I wanted to try something different ...
I went out and bought a new pick guard and threw a Gibson P 90 in the middle position , then added  a Hum bucking PAF for the neck slot and a Dimarzio prototype pick up I had gotten off Steve B in the bridge ...haven't  had a problem w it since 
 
If I ever decided to sell my Strat , since I'm still an unknown player w out a signature rig and set up  , I would be better off just getting another standard configed 3 single coil set up of quality and placing it on my guitar and keep my custom Start wiring / config for another Axe ..
Lollar , Don Mare , Dimarzio , Fender or what ever  would work nice and help me get a good price on my 31 year old Fender Strat
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 14:11:00 (permalink)
I've been playing the guitar for almost 30 years, and have NEVER wanted a Strat.  
Until the last few months.  I have no clue what changed!

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 14:23:35 (permalink)
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I've been playing the guitar for almost 30 years, and have NEVER wanted a Strat.  
Until the last few months.  I have no clue what changed!


Slugbaby ,
 
IMHO, Love them or Hate them it makes no difference , there is simply no getting around it .
Once you get a Strat , a lot of the iconic guitar tones you have loved listening to over the years you will finally be able to get and nail
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 14:49:55 (permalink)
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Slugbaby ,
 
IMHO, Love them or Hate them it makes no difference , there is simply no getting around it .
Once you get a Strat , a lot of the iconic guitar tones you have loved listening to over the years you will finally be able to get and nail
 
Kenny



If i had actually played one recently, that would make sense.  I don't think i've even TOUCHED a Strat since the early 90s.  

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 15:05:35 (permalink)
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Slugbaby ,
 
IMHO, Love them or Hate them it makes no difference , there is simply no getting around it .
Once you get a Strat , a lot of the iconic guitar tones you have loved listening to over the years you will finally be able to get and nail
 
Kenny



If i had actually played one recently, that would make sense.  I don't think i've even TOUCHED a Strat since the early 90s.  




Sure I understand where you are coming from ...there are plenty of guitars out there I'm not the least bit interested in
 
I can play a different super nice guitar I own every day for well over a month w out a repeat in the rotation 
not a brag , just a fact ... 
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 15:38:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2017/11/20 16:00:06
I get it.  I'm down to 7 guitars (sold 3 recently).  I love my Tele's, my Yamaha TVL is unbelievable...  I have no "need" for a Strat.  I don't feel that I'm lacking a sound or feel.  I just want one, dammit.  
Maybe I just need to fill that 3-guitar hole in my heart...

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 15:41:21 (permalink)
I bought a Strat a few years ago because I've always wanted one.
After playing mostly LPs and SGs and a Gretsch for most of my life (with 2 pick ups) I'm having a hard time getting used to the Strat's middle pu. I  keep hitting it too hard and hear it in the recordings.
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 16:31:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Slugbaby 2017/11/20 16:44:38
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I get it.  I'm down to 7 guitars (sold 3 recently).  I love my Tele's, my Yamaha TVL is unbelievable...  I have no "need" for a Strat.  I don't feel that I'm lacking a sound or feel.  I just want one, dammit.  
Maybe I just need to fill that 3-guitar hole in my heart...



 
I'm with you as far as I'm not lacking a sound or a feel. " I just want one, dammit.  "
 
Amen Brother You are now preaching to the Choir ....
 
The last guitar I bought was an 8 string Shecter ...
I bought it because I wanted it ..I couldn't care less what people that play them are doing with them .
How they play them genre wise and what sounds they use never even entered my mind ...
I just like having the extended range on a guitar ...I'm still learning my way around it ...
hopefully I will go from sucking to sounding pretty good while playing it ....
time and a lot of practice will tell
 
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 16:45:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby michaelhanson 2017/11/21 01:18:40
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The last guitar I bought was an 8 string Shecter ...
I bought it because I wanted it ..I couldn't care less what people that play them are doing with them .
How they play them genre wise and what sounds they use never even entered my mind ...
I just like having the extended range on a guitar ...I'm still learning my way around it ...
hopefully I will go from sucking to sounding pretty good while playing it ....
time and a lot of practice will tell
 
Kenny
 

Good luck!  Between 4-string basses and 6-string guitars, I've got my hand full.  I can't imagine the changes to add more.

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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 17:17:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby michaelhanson 2017/11/21 01:18:55
57Gregy
I bought a Strat a few years ago because I've always wanted one.
After playing mostly LPs and SGs and a Gretsch for most of my life (with 2 pick ups) I'm having a hard time getting used to the Strat's middle pu. I  keep hitting it too hard and hear it in the recordings.
Must practice, practice, practice!




Have you messed around with setting your pick up heights ? or is your guitar set as per the factory settings ....
in some cases the factory settings are no longer right if you are using different gauge strings or if you have altered the guitars action w out re setting the pick ups
In any case , Fender Strat pickups are not so posed to be set to high in relation ship to the strings 
They can get in the way of your playing and the magnetic pull of the pickups will jack up the guitars intonation and add unwanted over tones ..this comes up all the time I have worked in some well know guitar stores I also worked with Luthiers & repair men to put food on my table in the past ..
Some Strat pick ups have a flat pole piece for all the 6 strings . Other Strat Pickups will have protruding pole pieces at different heights for the 6 pole pieces ...the pick up with the protruding pole pieces can have the pick up set a lot lower into the guitars body because the pole pieces stick out higher from the pick up and they are closer to the strings ...
Most people set those pick ups way to high thinking they are gonna get a better tone when the opposite is true 
On the other type of Strat Pick ups you can still get away with keeping them at a modest height .. it is also a very common trick to keep the bass side a little lower than the treble side ....
All 3 pick ups will have a slant to them ....the pros set their guitars this way & all the average Joes don't
 
Unless you are running EMG's that have to be set much closer to the strings , you would be amazed at how much setting the Strats pick up heights will affect the guitars tone ...lower settings will give the guitar a much more woody tone with a lot of body ...it will also eliminate much of the shrillness ...
I currently have 4 Strats , 2 i bought new , 2 I bought used ...the 2 I bought used had pick ups that were after market and the guys I bought the guitars from did not like how the guitars sounded ...they sounded like $hit to me I bought them anyway because I know how to set up a guitar .The first thing I did was to re set the pick up heights  they no longer sound like $hit ...the 2 guys wanted to buy them guitars back after I set them up
One of my new Strats was bone stock and that's the way it's gonna stay because the pick ups are set right .
My other Start has a P 90 w 2 hum buckers ...
Then I have a Pro-type Guild Blues Bird that Mark Dronge ( the President of Guild at the time ) gave me as a gift ..
That guitar has a Les Paul / Blues Bird shape w a Khaler trem and a set of EMG's w the presence control ...
It's the Gilmore type of EMG pick up sett up ...that guitar looks like a Les but sounds just like a Strat on steroids ...
the pick ups are set high due the nature of the non magnetic pull of EMG's ....
anyway I don't mean to ramble .....if you decide to change the settings on your pick up heights an easy way to do it is to count how many times you turn the screw driver as you adjust your pick ups ..if you do that you can alway get back to where it was
 
Another trick you can do is to set your guitar pick up heights while running your guitar into SONAR ..If you want to  you can have SPAN on a track /channel 
FWIW you don' t really even need SPAN  , yet it is a good way to balance your guitars tone ...
example if you hit a low string and your track red lines over 0 Db you can set the pick up for more tonal balance between both the treble and the Bass  .....I do this stuff all the time ...including setting up my pick up combinations of more than one pick up ...
There you have it I just gave you a thousand dollars worth of advice ..keep you eye on the mail box the bill is on the way
just kidding no charge
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 
 
 

                   
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Re: Would you buy a Wrong strat? 2017/11/20 21:50:57 (permalink)
When I started contemplating my 15th guitar (also known as a "Half-Wilson") is when I decided to go down the custom path where one guitar basically took the place of six (I liked the electronics on one, the neck radius on another, the scale on a third, the shape on a fourth, the fretboard from a fifth and, finally, the pickups of a sixth!). 
 
My goal was to have all of my customs feel the same (like you do with good golf clubs) but accomplish different things (Classic rock tones, modern tones, trem/no trem, versatility - the Line 6 Variax guts are a good example).  If my life (and body?) hadn't gone pear shape, I would have had all I needed with the three custom guitars and then I could start on other types I was interested in (baritones, VI style bass, "normal" bass).
 
Since I don't play live (and tend to need to loop record a few dozen times to get passages right) I don't need to worry about damage or having a backup.
 
Soon I will get two of my three back.  Then we'll see where I go next! 

 
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