X1 installation broke my metronome

I really need to fix this problem. 

I have tried reinstalling X1 and that did not solve it.  does anyone have any other suggestions?

The metronome stopped working for me once or twice, but loading a new project using the default X1 Normal.cwp fixed it, and it started working again. A number of users use customized templates, maybe you are one. If so, try loading the default X1 normal template to see if the metronome starts working again.

Other than that, I'm sure you set the Metronome output correctly in the Metronome bus, as you are one of the more knowledgeable SONAR users here, so I can't think of anything else to suggest.
 
For me, in X1, the Metronome is already set up as a Bus routed to the Master bus.

thanks for the suggestions, guys.

djj - in X1 it is still set up in my bus section as it was in 8.5, so that's not the problem.  I did verify that the metronome is routed to the metronome bus.

thomas - good try, but no, that's not it either.  I used the normal template and I get the same results.  the odd problem is that I can open 8.5 with a project I know the metronome was working in before I installed x1 and it no longer works in 8.5 either.  something about the x1 installation caused the metronome to stop working all together.

middleman - nope, checked that as well and it was still set up like it was in 8.5.  and 8.5 is still set up correctly but no go.  I even tried the MIDI one in both programs but no go there either.

anyone more suggestions?

Have you got an external synth you can route it to? If so that may help narrow down whether it's the metronome not working or a routing issue somewhere.

Karl, good suggestion, but can you tell me how to do that?  I can't figure out how to send it to a hardware synth.  in the metronome options, I can choose the output of the AUDIO metronome, but only my soundcard outputs and the buses of that particular project are listed.  for the MIDI metronome, there are no output options available for me to choose.

Mike - good thinking and maybe you're onto something here.  during installation, sonar asked where I kept my configuration files (like it does with every installation).  the oldest installation on this machine was S6 and that's where I pointed S8 & S8.5 when their installations asked, so that's where the metronome wave files are (I looked). 

but they are there - so why wouldn't X1 use them there if they use everything else there like the INS and drum map files from that folder?

duh - sorry, I found it just as you responded.

ok - that's not working either.  I sent it to my synth using both MIDI port or USB port (I have both connected) and neither is sending data to the synth.  I also verified this by opening MIDIox to make sure my synth WOULD send data, and monitored the OUTPUT of MIDIOX from sonar going into the synth, but there was no output data being sent.

Beagle


dang it.  sorry.  it DOES work that way.  I forgot to set up the MIDI DEVICES OUTPUT.

so what does that mean?

One of the odd ball things that was happening to me before I did a fresh install of W7/X1 was my midi device settings would keep defaulting back to none.

You have versions of Sonar on your system going back to S6?! Wow! I'd consider myself lucky that this is all you've had go wrong. :)

Beagle

having multiple versions has never been a problem.  they coexist nicely under normal circumstances.

"I was using audio fine in 8.5 before the x1 installation, now it doesn't work in either program. "

You must be having ab-normal circumstances then.

Ok now I fell even more stupid than normal.

The options as you've probably noticed are in the same window. If it helps my metronome audio files are located here - C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer\Metronome on my system.

8.5 seems to have it's own copy of that as well.

I've also just checked and my metronome does work with the audio option.

Only other things I can think of are routing? something muted or soloed somewhere?

I know you probably already have but I'm scratching my head here. You've checked the output is set to a valid buss in the metronome dialogue box?

I would suggest doing a system restore, but when I was on Win XP, system restore worked terrible for me in XP, and you probably want to keep X1 on your system, so system restore is probably not what you want to do.

Did you have a image backup of your system before you installed X1?

I installed X1 after a fresh install of Windows 7 64bit, and I installed 8.0 and 8.5 after I installed X1. They all are working without any noticeable issue (minus the known bugs.)  I hate to say it, but I think you're in need of a fresh install of windows.

thomas - no I don't have an image.  system restore might work, but I really don't want to do a windows install at this point. I simply don't have time for that unless the problem is greater than the metronome.

I can always put up a click track (and that's what I've done as a work around) but I prefer to have the metronome working.

I never use it but with several metronome file folders for different versions of the host in the same place, how can you check that the right file is being loaded? I ask this because you had activity but no sound then no activity and no sound. So if you loaded an 8.5 referenced file would it it be looking for 8.5? Etc. With all the similar names involved?  ... 

Beagle


thanks chuck, but I think I've covered that one.

craig - that's what I don't know.  it may be a registry entry or something because there aren't any settings in sonar that I can find which point the metronome to a particular path.

Beagle,
 
You said you do the migrate using the 'oldest' Sonar install (Sonar 6?) -- I've always used the most recent one when I migrate (8.5.3 in my case) as it takes the most recent info and migrates it.
 
So you might want to try that?
 
 

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