BTW Samplitude its still only a 32 bit app.

64 bit with Samp 12 this summer---

VigilantSound


Also as far as Pro Tools only being able to use 4 gigs of RAM, That may be true on a PC (but Im gonna look into it to verify)

But on a MAC it is not limited to 4 gigs....

Yes - and it runs a lot better on the Mac. I don't know if the "memory server" concept applies to Windows - but it works great on the Mac - and allows the best of both worlds - rock-solid, time-tested, 32-bit plugins and drivers - and access to greater than 4GB total memory. It just works.

John


BTW Samplitude its still only a 32 bit app.

 
Samplitude, often The MASTER ENGINEER'S first choice.
 
Yes John it's bad it's still are only in x32bit. Otherwise a very great professional program with many advanced audio editing functions and automation. Flexible customization like SONAR. Colors skins etc same as SONAR DP.
 
 
Regards
Freddie

Freddie H

  

Samplitude, often The MASTER ENGINEER'S first choice.
 
Yes John it's bad it's still are only in x32bit. 

Otherwise a very great professional program with many advanced audio editing functions and automation. 

Flexible customization like SONAR. Colors skins etc same as SONAR DP.
 
 
Regards
Freddie

Yeah... right Freddie.... SAM is outstanding for Audio Editing and Mastering... 

By the way, next version is going to be x64 bit too.......  


Best regards, mate...  

...wicked

I don't really think it is fair to judge an application, let alone a DAW

Oh I'm not judging.

I beg to differ. You passed a judgement. Anyway... you yourself say the point is moot...

It is right there on the comparison page: http://www.samplitude.com/en/.1784.html or http://www.samplitude.com/en/.1784.html 

I read one of those and was still not clear on the actual differences. I think there's some purposefully grey areas between them so they can justify the higher price point for Sequoia (if you ask me) which is why it lacks the near-standard feature chart. Three paragraphs of "it's does everything the others do...but the others do more..." is a little meh.

Why didn't you click on the link before commenting? Seriously. This is a genuine question. I just don't understand why you would comment without first clicking on the link. I find it truly and utterly bizarre that someone can be so sure about something without actually checking. That link has a comprehensive list of features per version of Samplitude.

Unfortunately I copied the same link twice. The second link was supposed to be http://www.samplitude.com...e_comparison.pdf  (Although it contains exactly the same data).

UnderTow

Looking at the Samplitude comparison list, the extra features of the Pro version are probably not worth it for the average person except maybe the track count of 128 vs 999.

At least that's the way I see it?

UnderTow
I beg to differ. You passed a judgement. Anyway... you yourself say the point is moot... 

Oh you, and your love of semantic fisticuffs. Don't ever change.

Why didn't you click on the link before commenting? Seriously. This is a genuine question.

Because I was tired and I didn't feel the need to. When I took a peek I went to a comparison page on their site and ended up at the other link so that's what I commented on.


Looking at that chart, the differences seem minor....and that weird kind of arbitrary that makers need to do for stuff. Track counts, a noise-related plugin bundle, an amp sim, and a file format (SD2).


It turns out I know more people that use Samplitude than I thought, which is interesting. If I was in the market for a new DAW to call home I don't think Samp would be it but I would give it a closer look to see what the fuss is about.

keith

Freddie H

I think its becuase of latency compensation error with software instruments during LOOPING? If you use only AUDIO-files this problem doesn't occur at all.

You sure you want to go down that road?

 
 
As I said earlier I don't know?
 
Do you know why? Perhaps you know! Please explain why the dropouts happen during LOOPING.
 
 
Best Regards
Freddie

UnderTow

derFunkenstein

In particular, you can create a Core Audio aggregate device out of all the different audio interfaces with Core Audio drivers on your Mac, using the inputs and outputs simultaneously in your DAW.

That is indeed quite a glaring hole in the ASIO feature set.

I'm not aware of a way to do this in Windows, though if I'm wrong I'm all ears.

You can do it if you use WDM drivers. It is only ASIO that has this limitation.

UnderTow

And WDM effectively died with XP; Vista and 7 use a new audio stack that runs in user space.  I've never gotten WDM anything to work in Win7, anyhow.

sdpate


Anyone know of a iZ RADAR type computer that can record to hard drive - at a high quality level

Is this for any particular purpose? I mean wouldn't a laptop, an interface and any old DAW software do the trick? I believe most if not all DAWs are reliable enough for simple recording.

UnderTow

Thanks for all the inputs.

I guess I will give X1b a try when it comes out.

Just installed the demo version of Presonus Studio One and it crashes when I use Dimension Pro (but not with Synthogy Ivory for example) so as always it is difficult to know who is buggy.

Actually I also have Reaper but I need to find good learning resources to give it a more serious try.

PT9 doesn't have a demo version to my knowledge, and X1 neither.

djjhart@aol.com


I agree wait for X1b... Then wait about 2-3 weeks after, Just to see nothing Major has slipped through the cracks.
This morning I was freaking out I had something ODD happen to me that took me about 10 mins to realize it was a bug.. A track that had multiple sends as a trigger for sidechaining a gate started playing the kick for no reason. I couldn't get it back to work until a restart. and a when I saved it messed up the track I had to go back to a previous save and had lost my previous work done this morning. So Yeah X1 right now is workflow killer, if it aint one thing its something else..  Definatley WAIT for X1b.

I myself have dabbled with other Daws, Live is great but different, I didn't take to it.. Studio one, I did like alot only have the artist version still toying with that once in awhile. Never tried reaper dont know nothing about it. PT I hated but never use the new versions..  Logic on the other hand Is amazing I have that installed on Macbook and its flawless 95% of the time. Never a driver problem with any hardware, that I've run into with a Mac.  
For me if X1b dosn't hold up, it will be Logic I will sell my PC Sonar and anything else related to PC recording and move on . Btw Not the way I wanna go just caus of the price of  Mac Desktop, Not  fan of laptops and DAWS, I need my monitors, keyboard and Trackball. 
Fingers are crossed for X1B...

Ok, I have finally snapped.  X1 and X1b have managed to degrade the already limited, buy valued Staff View.

http://forum.cakewalk.com...38&mpage=1#2262919

I'm seriously considering a move to Logic.  I believe Logic has pretty much everything which X1 has, with the exception of a Matrix View.  Other than that, is there anything missing in Logic which Sonar has which I may be overlooking?

I own and verymuch like Pro Tools 9. It works great for most things and they finally implemented a few things that were non-starters for me before (Auto delay compensation- essential for a UAD user like me, ability to use 3rd party hardware- my FireFace sounds way better than my Digi002, and upping the simultaneous recording limit to 32 tracks (previously 18.)

In my opinion there simply is no other DAW out there that can even hold a candle to Pro Tools when it comes to features for tracking (playlists, comping) and editing (EXCELLENT mix and edit grouping features.) Logic is the only other one I've seen that has even tried to compete and I'm mainly a PC house.

When approaching a mix, however, it is a much different story. Flexible bussing and a plethora of options for applying FX (freeze, apply FX to track, apply FX to clip, bounce in realtime or NOT) makes Sonar a killer application for me. I am always pushing the limits of my system when mixing and I've never found a DAW that makes it easier to push past these limits and succeed than Sonar.

When you compare Sonar and Pro Tools on this point Pro Tools loses every time, especially for someone with a lot of 3rd party VST plugins. The wrapper that is required to use them in Pro Tools only wraps them for realtime processing and not for offline processing. Thus, the only way to "Apply FX" when using a VST plugin in Pro Tools is to bounce the track to a file in REALTIME. That is a serious JOKE.

As others have mentioned Ableton Live, my experience is that it is second to none if you want a DAW that is great for live performance, DJ work, or getting ideas into a DAW quickly. It is a massive misunderstanding to approach it as if it were meant for world class mixing, however. There are a number of niggles and downright showstoppers for me, so I wouldn't consider it if you're looking to do any kind of complicated mixing.

Peace,

Tunes

If you are on the "cutting edge " the PT9

 only OS for windows PT9 uses is Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate (32 or 64-bit)

well of course X1 is win 7 capable

however if your like me WIN XP 32 bit the Sonar X1 is a NO BRAINER I cannot run PT9