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X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
I have been a cakewalk user for quite some time but now I feel I need to evaluate the market before upgrading to X1.
I am not a professional, but I am a decently equipped enthusiast with quite an investment in plugins (Ivory, man East West packages and so forth).
For years my passion has been quite impeded by the absolutely huge amount of bugs & problems in (or related to) daws software. Using/having used professional software for professional photography, 3d and animation my experience is that the amount of time wasted is second to none is the daw category.
I am now at a point where my utmost priority is to waste as little time as possible with troubleshooting & making things work and as much time as possible actually doing music.
For those of you with sizable time spent with the latest daws, what do you recommend?
Upgrade to X1? How stable is X1?
Try PT9? PT is known for its limited feature set, can one at least expect less bugs and more stability?
Try another daw?
Thanks,
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 12:31:07
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I would say - wait for X1"B" to be released and see what the user reaction is to that.
From my experience, there are really only 2 DAWs that are comparable with respect to "feature" sets in the PC market - and that would be Sonar and Cubase. Ableton Live is also very feature rich, but quite a different animal and a different target audience.
Studio One has great potential -- but it lacks in the feature set for now. It's very stable however.
Reaper has great potential but also lacks certain features that I think Sonar wins at.
PT is what it is.
But if you want a feature rich DAW, you're limited to the above.
IF, however, X1B gets it right, so to speak, it probably is a better way to go if you're already invested in Sonar anyway.
It won't be long now (we're all waiting impatiently) for X1B to be available, so I'd simply say wait it out a bit more and see.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 12:52:48
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From my experience, there are really only 2 DAWs that are comparable with respect to "feature" sets in the PC market - and that would be Sonar and Cubase.
Don't forget Samplitude! PT is what it is.
Heh. :-) But if you want a feature rich DAW, you're limited to the above.
I think it also depends greatly on what one does with the DAW. For tracking and Mixing, Pro Tools might well be one of the most feature rich. If one uses many virtual instruments, maybe not so much. If one is making repetitive electronic music, Ableton Live might be the best choice. Etc etc. IF, however, X1B gets it right, so to speak, it probably is a better way to go if you're already invested in Sonar anyway.
Indeed. X1b should be out soon. I see no reason not to wait to see what Cakewalk deliver with this new version. UnderTow
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 12:53:57
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Good assessment Billy... That's exactly how I feel about the current DAW software options. @OP: I've got several DAW apps in my "toolbox"... as they cumulatively provide all the features I want/need. Sonar X1 is still my overall favorite (warts and all). Thus far, I've been able to work around outstanding bugs (no complete show-stoppers for me). Samplitude has some excellent features (especially the audio side). The MIDI editing has come a long way... but it feels a bit "tacked on" for lack of a better way to put it. For hard-core slicing/dicing... I think Samp kills ProTools. The realtime control you have with the Object Editor is incredible.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 13:02:35
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I agree wait for X1b... Then wait about 2-3 weeks after, Just to see nothing Major has slipped through the cracks.
This morning I was freaking out I had something ODD happen to me that took me about 10 mins to realize it was a bug.. A track that had multiple sends as a trigger for sidechaining a gate started playing the kick for no reason. I couldn't get it back to work until a restart. and a when I saved it messed up the track I had to go back to a previous save and had lost my previous work done this morning. So Yeah X1 right now is workflow killer, if it aint one thing its something else.. Definatley WAIT for X1b.
I myself have dabbled with other Daws, Live is great but different, I didn't take to it.. Studio one, I did like alot only have the artist version still toying with that once in awhile. Never tried reaper dont know nothing about it. PT I hated but never use the new versions.. Logic on the other hand Is amazing I have that installed on Macbook and its flawless 95% of the time. Never a driver problem with any hardware, that I've run into with a Mac.
For me if X1b dosn't hold up, it will be Logic I will sell my PC Sonar and anything else related to PC recording and move on . Btw Not the way I wanna go just caus of the price of Mac Desktop, Not fan of laptops and DAWS, I need my monitors, keyboard and Trackball.
Fingers are crossed for X1B...
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 13:51:32
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I agree wait for X1b... Then wait about 2-3 weeks after, Just to see nothing Major has slipped through the cracks.
This morning I was freaking out I had something ODD happen to me that took me about 10 mins to realize it was a bug.. A track that had multiple sends as a trigger for sidechaining a gate started playing the kick for no reason. I couldn't get it back to work until a restart. and a when I saved it messed up the track I had to go back to a previous save and had lost my previous work done this morning. So Yeah X1 right now is workflow killer, if it aint one thing its something else.. Definatley WAIT for X1b.
I myself have dabbled with other Daws, Live is great but different, I didn't take to it.. Studio one, I did like alot only have the artist version still toying with that once in awhile. Never tried reaper dont know nothing about it. PT I hated but never use the new versions.. Logic on the other hand Is amazing I have that installed on Macbook and its flawless 95% of the time. Never a driver problem with any hardware, that I've run into with a Mac.
For me if X1b dosn't hold up, it will be Logic I will sell my PC Sonar and anything else related to PC recording and move on . Btw Not the way I wanna go just caus of the price of Mac Desktop, Not fan of laptops and DAWS, I need my monitors, keyboard and Trackball.
Fingers are crossed for X1B...
John, you make a good point about "waiting a few weeks" even after X1B is out because it really does take time to use software in the myriad ways one might -- and therefor it would take time to 'run into' any problems. That's what happened with X1 too. Those who use it casually - or do not use all the functionality - thought it was great out of the box (vs those who ran into problems immediately). Those who didn't find problems initially slowly - but surely - started to bump into things as time marched on. So waiting it out is sometimes the best approach. Just to let things shake out.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 13:52:25
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Jim Roseberry
Good assessment Billy...
That's exactly how I feel about the current DAW software options.
@OP:
I've got several DAW apps in my "toolbox"... as they cumulatively provide all the features I want/need.
Sonar X1 is still my overall favorite (warts and all). Thus far, I've been able to work around outstanding bugs (no complete show-stoppers for me).
Samplitude has some excellent features (especially the audio side).
The MIDI editing has come a long way... but it feels a bit "tacked on" for lack of a better way to put it.
For hard-core slicing/dicing... I think Samp kills ProTools. The realtime control you have with the Object Editor is incredible.
Jim, have you had a chance to check out Cubase 6? I'm seriously leaning toward doing so and any feedback would be helpful, especially from you. Thanks.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 15:16:28
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Jim Roseberry
Good assessment Billy...
That's exactly how I feel about the current DAW software options.
@OP:
I've got several DAW apps in my "toolbox"... as they cumulatively provide all the features I want/need.
Sonar X1 is still my overall favorite (warts and all). Thus far, I've been able to work around outstanding bugs (no complete show-stoppers for me).
Samplitude has some excellent features (especially the audio side).
The MIDI editing has come a long way... but it feels a bit "tacked on" for lack of a better way to put it.
For hard-core slicing/dicing... I think Samp kills ProTools. The realtime control you have with the Object Editor is incredible.
Jim, have you had a chance to check out Cubase 6? I'm seriously leaning toward doing so and any feedback would be helpful, especially from you.
Thanks.
+1 on that..... I'm currently using Studio One but I go back and forth to X1 as well. I like Studio One for it's ease of use but I;m sure I like the way it looks. PT9 is out of the loop because of 32 bit and RTAS instead of VST. I too am interested in Cubase, but I'm a player and less of a looper and it seems C6 is geared for loopers and such just like PT is geared for old school audio, which I am as well. I'm currently trying Samplitude 11 demo and it looks real nice, but $1000 is an awful lot of money and even though I used these things to earn $$ that's still overpriced IMHO. I've also been reading it isn't that great at getting the lowest latency when using VSTi.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 15:32:36
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ba_midi
Jim Roseberry
Good assessment Billy...
That's exactly how I feel about the current DAW software options.
@OP:
I've got several DAW apps in my "toolbox"... as they cumulatively provide all the features I want/need.
Sonar X1 is still my overall favorite (warts and all). Thus far, I've been able to work around outstanding bugs (no complete show-stoppers for me).
Samplitude has some excellent features (especially the audio side).
The MIDI editing has come a long way... but it feels a bit "tacked on" for lack of a better way to put it.
For hard-core slicing/dicing... I think Samp kills ProTools. The realtime control you have with the Object Editor is incredible.
Jim, have you had a chance to check out Cubase 6? I'm seriously leaning toward doing so and any feedback would be helpful, especially from you.
Thanks.
+1 on that.....
I'm currently using Studio One but I go back and forth to X1 as well.
I like Studio One for it's ease of use but I;m sure I like the way it looks.
PT9 is out of the loop because of 32 bit and RTAS instead of VST.
I too am interested in Cubase, but I'm a player and less of a looper and it seems C6 is geared for loopers and such just like PT is geared for old school audio, which I am as well.
I'm currently trying Samplitude 11 demo and it looks real nice, but $1000 is an awful lot of money and even though I used these things to earn $$ that's still overpriced IMHO.
I've also been reading it isn't that great at getting the lowest latency when using VSTi.
Regarding C6 geared for loopers ... from all I've watched/read/seen, it's not very different from Sonar with respect to being very broad in its functions. Meaning, you can loop or just do straight audio stuff and still have a rich feature set for both approaches. One of the things I've liked about Sonar is the lack of limitations. Meaning one can do almost anything one can think of within the host/DAW. In comparison -- Ableton Live is more geared toward loopers. But it still has great functionality to do otherwise. It's just not marketed as such, and it's interface lends itself more to looping/triggering than full blow 'studio' style methods.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 17:04:15
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@ba_midi...
True.
I wasn't saying Sonar couldn't do that type of stuff, I was just saying that Cubase seems targeted toward that market. Sonar does seem that way as well.
Abelton is totally different, as is Reason and FL.
Total loop philosophy there.
I'm just a DAW whore looking for a nice Scully and a splicing block.....
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 17:09:42
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Thus far, I've been able to work around outstanding bugs (no complete show-stoppers for me). This is me exactly. I really love X1 and can't wait for X1b. I really believe Cakewalk will get it right. In 6 months, X1 may be the best of any DAW out there.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 17:17:49
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And I believe that we will go into X2 and X3 with many of the same issues that Sonar 6 had. Unfortunately, history is on my side.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 18:16:56
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@ba_midi...
True.
I wasn't saying Sonar couldn't do that type of stuff, I was just saying that Cubase seems targeted toward that market. Sonar does seem that way as well.
Abelton is totally different, as is Reason and FL.
Total loop philosophy there.
I'm just a DAW whore looking for a nice Scully and a splicing block.....
The answer is simple in that case ... get a cassette deck, put it to your side while working in Sonar, and pretend it's a Scully ;)
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 18:19:11
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And I believe that we will go into X2 and X3 with many of the same issues that Sonar 6 had. Unfortunately, history is on my side.
I think that depends on how strong the competition comes on. Keep in mind, Sonar didn't have too much competition that long ago (maybe Cubase and a little bit Fruity Loops). There was no Studio One, Reaper, etc. Even Cubase is drawing renewed attention. Things are different now. Those products are developing nicely creating a serious competitive situation. It MAY have some impact, unless management is completely asleep at the wheel.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 18:25:53
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Good thread you guys. Appreciate the perspective.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 19:36:26
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My experience with 8.53 was/is extremely frustrating and the numerous problems with X1 prompted me to try out Reaper. I invested a few bucks to get the training videos and now that I "get it" I have to say that I am deeply impressed. Even the alpha version of Reaper 4 is more stable than Sonar and it doesn't have all the unpredictable behaviors that Sonar has (weird envelope problems, clips sliding out of time because I tried to click on an envelope...yeesh).
The only missing feature that I've encountered is that Reaper doesn't support clip-based effects. I don't use that a lot. Other than that, Reaper has a fully professional feature set, is deeply flexible/customizable and is only $40. Unless Cakewalk pulls off something in terms of QUALITY that they haven't done in a long time with whatever the next update is, I don't see myself going forward with the platform for production purposes.
That said, Cakewalk folks have been a sizeable and loyal portion of my work, so I'll have to use it because my client base does...but even there, I'll probably pipe the audio over to Reaper to do the actual work using the ReaRoute driver( a driver similar to ReWire and is included with Reaper).
Cheers,
J
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 21:27:51
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Jim, have you had a chance to check out Cubase 6? I'm seriously leaning toward doing so and any feedback would be helpful, especially from you. Thanks.
Hi Billy, I got Cubase 6 almost exclusively because of the auto tempo extraction/mapping feature. I'm working with a tribute band... doing pre-production (click-track with misc. parts for backing) We're taking the original tunes, extracting the tempo map, then recording any parts that won't be covered live. You can manually create the tempo map in most DAWs (I've done it in X1)... but it's a whole lot easier when the DAW application can analyze a piece of audio and automatically create the tempo map.  I've not spent a great deal of time/energy pushing Cubase 6 to the limits... I'm not crazy about the Cubase GUI... and I don't like the eLicense key. I can cope with them... The new VST Amp Rack is pretty good If you already have Guitar Rig 4, Amplitube 3, etc... it won't blow you away. I haven't gotten into the VST Expression 2... That's one of the more intriguing features IMO To me... Cubase 6 really isn't a whole lot different than version 5.5 There's a lot of included content (sound familiar? ) IMO, the strenths are pretty much the same as previous versions. - Notation is far superior to X1
- Automation lanes are nice
- Vari-Audio (similar to Melodyne)
- Etc
Wish Steinberg would have given Cubase 6 64Bit Float double-precision summing But the 32Bit Float engine will suffice... I could use Cubase 6 as my main DAW... but overall, I prefer X1. A big part of that preference is simply "comfort zone" and aesthetics... not because Cubase 6 is "lacking". Basic tracking/editing/mixing is similar in both applications. Sitting here looking at the Cubase 6 box... It's hard to believe just how much we (myself included) take for granted. There's an incredible list of features/functions... yet my enthusiasm is luke-warm. I must be jaded... or turning into a grumpy old man!  In the grand scope of things, we are truly blessed with choices/capabilities. (where's Sting when you need him?) I want my... I want my X... 1... b.... 
post edited by Jim Roseberry - 2011/03/10 21:30:04
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 21:40:33
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JIm that was an great reading..Thanks... I too Want my X 1 B ...
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 21:44:17
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The only missing feature that I've encountered is that Reaper doesn't support clip-based effects. Hi J, FWIW, Reaper does offer per-item ("Clip" in Reaper speak) EFX. Open the Item Editor (F2) and look for Take-FX The audio side of Reaper is pretty capable IMO, The MIDI side of Reaper has a good way to go to catch up to Sonar/Cubase/Logic/DP. Reaper's great strength is that it's not dragging 10+ years of baggage. Reaper's great weakness is that it lacks 10+ years of refinements. The simplicity of Reaper is both refreshing... and annoying (depending on the task at hand). As Reaper gets more complex, it'll be harder to maintain the sprite/lean nature. I'm glad to have Reaper (it's basically replaced Samplitude in my toolbox)... and it'll be interesting to see where things go.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:10:14
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Since it's not a marriage or a religion, I think I'll get a copy of Cubase 6 and try it. Nice features and word is it's stable. I want something like tape - turn it on, check inputs, hit record. Everything else is a waste of creative time. Maybe an iZ Radar or Tascam DAT would be a good investment.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:21:32
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By all means... give C6 a whirl.
FWIW, If you're talking staight-up tracking/editing/mixing, X1 is working pretty well here (no crashes or other major issues). I was tracking some guitar and keyboard (VSTi) last night...
No major issues with C6 either... though I haven't pushed it hard
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:22:31
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I've been tempted to try the Cubase 6 demo as well. But first, I'll wait to see how X1b does. If everything's gravy, then I won't bother. I have better things to do then learn a new DAW, although then again, with all the changes in X1b, maybe it won't be that different.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:29:47
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The Cubase 6 demo still requires a dongle. I've never tried Cubase for this reason alone. My loss, maybe, but I refuse to pay $28 or any amount for copy protection for trial software.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:30:42
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Jim Roseberry
Jim, have you had a chance to check out Cubase 6? I'm seriously leaning toward doing so and any feedback would be helpful, especially from you. Thanks.
Hi Billy,
I got Cubase 6 almost exclusively because of the auto tempo extraction/mapping feature.
I'm working with a tribute band... doing pre-production (click-track with misc. parts for backing)
We're taking the original tunes, extracting the tempo map, then recording any parts that won't be covered live.
You can manually create the tempo map in most DAWs (I've done it in X1)... but it's a whole lot easier when the DAW application can analyze a piece of audio and automatically create the tempo map.
I've not spent a great deal of time/energy pushing Cubase 6 to the limits...
I'm not crazy about the Cubase GUI... and I don't like the eLicense key.
I can cope with them...
The new VST Amp Rack is pretty good
If you already have Guitar Rig 4, Amplitube 3, etc... it won't blow you away.
I haven't gotten into the VST Expression 2...
That's one of the more intriguing features IMO
To me... Cubase 6 really isn't a whole lot different than version 5.5
There's a lot of included content (sound familiar? )
IMO, the strenths are pretty much the same as previous versions.
- Notation is far superior to X1
- Automation lanes are nice
- Vari-Audio (similar to Melodyne)
- Etc
Wish Steinberg would have given Cubase 6 64Bit Float double-precision summing
But the 32Bit Float engine will suffice...
I could use Cubase 6 as my main DAW... but overall, I prefer X1.
A big part of that preference is simply "comfort zone" and aesthetics... not because Cubase 6 is "lacking".
Basic tracking/editing/mixing is similar in both applications.
Sitting here looking at the Cubase 6 box...
It's hard to believe just how much we (myself included) take for granted.
There's an incredible list of features/functions... yet my enthusiasm is luke-warm.
I must be jaded... or turning into a grumpy old man!
In the grand scope of things, we are truly blessed with choices/capabilities.
(where's Sting when you need him?)
I want my...
I want my X... 1... b....
Jim, thanks for the response/info. I kind of see C6 as the "other" Sonar, but I didn't take to Cubase previously (I had 2 and 3). Some of the GUI, some of the bugs, etc... are what kept me at bay. But a lot of people I respect speak very highly of it these days (mostly people not from the U.S. lol). So it does pic my curiousity a bit. I think I may just wait for X1B and see how she flies before trying out yet another DAW. I'm well into Live, Studio One (and for now Sonar 8.5.3 of course); not so much a Reaper guy myself. But I can wait this out a bit at least. As always, your thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:32:49
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I've looked at Cubase to replace Sonar since Sonar will never have usable notation. The thing that stops me is the dongle. I need to use a DAW in my studio and on my laptop daily and a dongle would be lost or broke in no time.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:33:34
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Jim Roseberry
The only missing feature that I've encountered is that Reaper doesn't support clip-based effects.
Hi J,
FWIW, Reaper does offer per-item ("Clip" in Reaper speak) EFX.
Open the Item Editor (F2) and look for Take-FX
The audio side of Reaper is pretty capable
IMO, The MIDI side of Reaper has a good way to go to catch up to Sonar/Cubase/Logic/DP.
Reaper's great strength is that it's not dragging 10+ years of baggage.
Reaper's great weakness is that it lacks 10+ years of refinements.
The simplicity of Reaper is both refreshing... and annoying (depending on the task at hand).
As Reaper gets more complex, it'll be harder to maintain the sprite/lean nature.
I'm glad to have Reaper (it's basically replaced Samplitude in my toolbox)... and it'll be interesting to see where things go.
Interestingly - your statement could easily swap out "Studio One" for "Reaper" ... I got a kick out of:
Reaper's great strength is that it's not dragging 10+ years of baggage.
Reaper's great weakness is that it lacks 10+ years of refinements. That can be said of Studio One as well.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 22:35:19
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Susan G
The Cubase 6 demo still requires a dongle. I've never tried Cubase for this reason alone. My loss, maybe, but I refuse to pay $28 or any amount for copy protection for trial software.
-Susan
Hi Susan :) I must admit, that part bothers me as well. It's a demo after all. :O I have a number of iLOK licenses, so it's too bad they didn't go that way.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/10 23:05:13
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I just read somewhere that there was a way to get around that (at least for the demo). I would contact their customer support.
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/11 01:00:49
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Pro Tools 9 is a beast, and definitely not limited, at least not for mostly audio projects , I havnt had a single problem with it yet, It does what it says and never stops.. Plus now they have added Beat Detective standard... F-Ya!! Its become my go to choice for paid sessions because of its speed and stability... I love 8.5 too and I know im gonna love X1b cause I already dig it. Its just a little glitchy for what I do, with no Audio Snap and buggy plugs and synths have really slowed me down. Just tonight I was inspired to write and by the time I got moving I lost my flow cause I had to deal with some issues with kontakt and the multi dock. But I love the new interface, key bindings, screen sets and workflow, and I even like the standard color scheme cause now anywhere I go that has X1 it will always look the same, which is really good for me cause a lot of my friends and colleagues use it in their studios...
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Re:X1 vs PT9 vs other alternatives
2011/03/11 01:53:57
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Re-reading the original post, I'd say this:
Live: quick and easy workflow (tho different) but is very fast and easy for getting ideas down and playing with them
PT: more of a tracking, post-prod tool, I don't think it's right for your purpose
Same with Samplitude
StudioOne could be your ticket, try the demo and see if you like it.
X1b, when it comes out in a few weeks, I think would be a great fit for you
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