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2012/09/26 17:49:00 (permalink)

X2 - "Too many plugins" warning

SONAR X2 is there, we have a reworked UI, all is fine. BUT one old and annoying thing remains: The stupid warning that one has too many plugins installed to fit into the menus. When will this silly limitation finally be resolved? I know of no other modern DAW that has such a limitation.

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    bapu
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/26 18:16:05 (permalink)
    Two reasons.

    1. Actually too many plugs installed
    2. You have duplicates vsts somewhere. I'd start with Rapture  (since this does install with Producer) and/or Dim Pro (in case you reinstalled).


    Note: 32 bit "seems" to allow less than 64 bit. Not proven scientifically, just a feeling I get.

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/26 19:06:56 (permalink)
    Well, I have to ask the "64" thousand dollar question. How many plugins do have installed? Especially third party plugins.

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/26 19:08:12 (permalink)
    The "too many" warning is an undocumented feature, born of wisdom.

    Your signature should list the total, and number of each type, you have installed.

    We will then all be in awe.

    And we will also wonder why you spend way too much of your life collecting stuff you cannot possible use.

    And so on.
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/26 19:14:14 (permalink)
    My question was quite serious: Why still such a limitation if all other DAWs have none?

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/26 19:31:04 (permalink)
    I know you were/are serious.

    My facetiousness notwithstanding, you are wasting your life collecting what you will never use.

    Stuff requires space, time, and attention. Every bit of stuff costs at least 10 times the original price.

    And since there is no such thing as "Free," each thing will use more than 10 times the amount of life you use to aquire it.

    To paraphrase a bit, "Be careful what you aquire. The more you have the less you get to do with any of it."

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 03:26:09 (permalink)
    jm24


    To paraphrase a bit, "Be careful what you aquire. The more you have the less you get to do with any of it."

    +1 to that statement :-D

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 04:38:17 (permalink)
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    jm24


    To paraphrase a bit, "Be careful what you aquire. The more you have the less you get to do with any of it."

    +1 to that statement :-D

    I admit my list of acquired plugs is greater than what I use on a daily basis by about a factor of 76.9886765765. TBH my "too many plugs" errors cam about (mostly) due to mono and stereo versions of many plugs (UAD being the biggest list) and initially some freebies that I (gasp) never really used.


    However (here comes the justification) I buy a lot so that as I collab I have available to me nearly anything anyone could throw at me in a .cwp/.cwb without having to imagine what they might have done as a starting point.


    That includes all the Pro Channel modules even though I may not necessarily think of them as my go to plugs.  



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             And we will also wonder why you spend way too much of your life collecting stuff you cannot possible use. 


    I find that statement funny as the time required to collect any plug amounts to minutes not hours, days or weeks. The time to collect my extensive list of plugs is probably on the order or 24-48 hours of actual work since 2006.


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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 04:39:34 (permalink)
    I've never had/heard or seen this before,and I have stupid amonts of the Free/Donation ware +Waves,Don't Crack[Plug and Mix],about 419 vst's all up,not including the Sonitus/DXI,or all of X2's stock plugs.

    Is it a pop up,or do you get an electric "shock",cause you have too many?

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 04:52:22 (permalink)
    I have 506 plus Sonitus/DXI,or all of X2's stock/PC plugs. I deleted all my UAD mono and light versions (I have 2 UAD-2 Quads so light an mono are not typically required).


    I seem to get the message when I accidentally install a duplicate plug (same plug two locations).


    You'll ask how can you do that? Well, I had a "install location configuration" error on a plug and so on an update the new version was installed in a different location than the previous version. Once sorted out the error went away.


    Someone once say they believed the error would occur with either 512 or 600+ plugs. I don't recall which number it was or maybe there were two different speculations.
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 08:54:23 (permalink)
    wrt seperate mono/stereo versions, this is made redundant by *cough*vst3*cough* ;)

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 09:04:15 (permalink)
    mmmm...I have not seen this one....I do, however get the one on my start menu on vista that complains that I have too many programs pinned to my start up menu

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 09:20:27 (permalink)
    jm24, No offense, bro, but how could you possibly know patrick won't use the plug ins he buys?  Maybe he has a lot of guest engineers who all have different preferences.  And that is not up to us anyway.  I think he has a valid question.
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:09:04 (permalink)
    I get it too and I think it´s stupid and an old bug..

    Since I made a PlugIn Layout it´s gone..

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:10:37 (permalink)
    Have you all missed the point ?

    Who CARES how many plug-ins a user has ? 

    The issue is why does Sonar complain about it ? Is there some way to disable the message ?
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:33:45 (permalink)



    I have too many of lots of stuff and x2 doesnt warn me


    Sigh



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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:36:39 (permalink)
    oo and I think it´s stupid and an old bug..
    Gregmang


    Have you all missed the point ?

    Who CARES how many plug-ins a user has ? 

    The issue is why does Sonar complain about it ? Is there some way to disable the message ?

    +1


    And also; now when we've got the plugins shown in the browser, it shoudn't matter if the plugins fit in the menu or not, since we don't even need to use the menu any more. The new search-function in the browser also makes it even more justified to have many plugins (and stuff in general) since things now are so easy to find

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:36:53 (permalink)
    pwal


    wrt seperate mono/stereo versions, this is made redundant by *cough*vst3*cough* ;)

    So is the entire plug-in manager for that matter...

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:40:57 (permalink)
    Gregmang


    Have you all missed the point ?

    Who CARES how many plug-ins a user has ? 

    The issue is why does Sonar complain about it ? Is there some way to disable the message ?

    +1
     
    It's really easy to max it out these days I'd have thought with all the suites available.
     
    The plug-manager ought to be able to cope the original question is completely valid.
     
    When will this silly limitation be addressed?  It's been cropping up on this board for several years so some people are bumping into it, it doesn't need a defence, it needs and explanation or better still a solution.

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:42:15 (permalink)
    does the limit have a number?

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:46:12 (permalink)
    pwal


    does the limit have a number?

    Again, someone once said something on the order of 500-600. But I too have never found anyone from CW to give that exact number, They usually just say "use the plugin manager".
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:47:23 (permalink)
    pwal


    does the limit have a number?

    IIRC, it depends, is about as conclusive a figure that has been found so far.
     
    I'm pretty sure it's around the 800 mark including any and all the DX(i)'s and VST(i)'s you have installed.
     
    One of those mega Waves bundles alone must take a big chunk out of that.

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 10:50:05 (permalink)
    In my opinion, the plugin manager is no real solution, since it introduces the need for manual maintenance when new plugins are added.

    Regards,
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 11:09:48 (permalink)
    Is there some way to disable the message ?





    Will the same method of disabling complaints from sonar work with disabling complaints from my wife? 

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 11:13:29 (permalink)
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    Is there some way to disable the message ?





    Will the same method of disabling complaints from sonar work with disabling complaints from my wife? 

    NO!!! The complaints from your wife are always justified.
     
    See the difference Mooch?
     
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 11:22:44 (permalink)
    is your wife virtual?

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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 11:34:21 (permalink)
    If not virtual then what kind of interface are you using ?   :)
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 12:04:56 (permalink)
            jm24



             And we will also wonder why you spend way too much of your life collecting stuff you cannot possible use. 


    I find that statement funny as the time required to collect any plug amounts to minutes not hours, days or weeks. The time to collect my extensive list of plugs is probably on the order or 24-48 hours of actual work since 2006.
    Common misconception.
    The short bit of time actually downloading is only part of the time spent acquiring: Becoming aware of such, researching such, best price, payment, user name/password for sites, billing, accounting, serial numbers copied/lost/requested, how to install, ....
     
    And then the rest of the lifetime costs including maintenance: watering, dusting, pruning,....
     
     
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 12:08:13 (permalink)
    Did your wife install without administrator's permissions?
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    Re:X2 - "Too many plugins" warning 2012/09/27 12:22:40 (permalink)
    Everything has a limit at some point.... and with plugs.... every one you add requires a certain amount of processing power to allow it to run properly and in real time. 

    When the computer's ability to keep everything running has been exceeded..... you might get such a warning. 

    Personally, I have never seen that kind of warning because I try to use as few plugs as possible and use busses for plugs that will span several tracks. 

    You might want to rethink how and why you are using a certain plug.

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