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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 00:19:57 (permalink)
Hi Craig, in my Performance - Advanced Tab, i have it under Custom; everything is off except a check in "Smooth edges of screen fonts"
 
hope this helps... cheers!!!
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 00:25:56 (permalink)
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The following are experiments i have done over but have no solution except to just re-load the track icons.



This is very helpful and I have passed it along to the appropriate person at Cakewalk. Fingers crossed!

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 00:29:25 (permalink)
Over the years I've had this problem as well. It happened a lot, and I learned to either ignore them or to reimport the icon for a track that was bothering me.

I did move to a much better PC, well a laptop, a year or more ago. I don't recall now when the last time I saw this occurred. Maybe I haven't seen it since my machine upgrade. Anyway, I'll watch for it again.

When it happens it sure is annoying. But it seemed for me when it did that it was not easily solveable.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 00:30:16 (permalink)
Many thanks Craig and look forward...  :-)
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 04:52:48 (permalink)
In some of my projects icons get pixelated multiple times when loading project. This confirms keyzs's comment that [pixelated] icons are saved in the project file.  It's odd but in a problematic project file some icons always remain intact while the others always get pixelated over and over again.
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 18:10:42 (permalink)
I think Keith was asking for particulars on which specific icons were getting messed up - and possibly when it happens, in case anyone has that info.  (perhaps there IS something internal he can look at, given enough information).
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 19:36:39 (permalink)
Screen captures from SONAR X3e build 352 - x64:
 
Pixelated FX icon (and track 15 has another little glitch which happens when scrolling strips horizontally):

 
Pixelated drum set icon:

 
Pixelated Hammond B3 icon:

 
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 19:50:26 (permalink)
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Okay, but I already said I didn't think it was the graphics card because we have the same graphics card and I don't have problems.



That is just an assumption. The chances of everybody being on the same driver versions are extremely slim as a new one comes out every 5 minutes usually.
 
Nobody here has once confirmed that they are on the very latest display drivers, pretty please rule it out one way or the other. As I said the behaviour is classic example of corrupted display memory (do people remember black icons in Windows 3.x?).
 
Of course it could be a Sonar issue (from the further info we have received it could be a display caching issue, again this could be drivers) but for heaven sake, whoever is experiencing this please rule this out.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 20:03:53 (permalink)
I only use drum icons and guitar icons mostly, and just do not see the issue on my system.  I am sorry I have no idea how to help figure this out.
 
THANKS for the pics - it is SO weird to happen to some icons and not to others.
 
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post edited by robert_e_bone - 2014/07/17 04:23:48

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 20:56:44 (permalink)
I downloaded all the latest Windows 7 updates for an unrelated issue about 3 weeks ago. So I think that means my drivers are up to date.
 
My Windows setting is set to best performance - with no “eye candy”.
 
Regarding specific icons, I have a favourite Rickenbacker bass icon for my bass tracks. It was always pixelated. But if I loaded it into track 1 it didn’t pixelate. I tried a few icons – all Sonar standard icons, including simple ones like a french horn from the Brass folder – they ALL pixelated upon reopening the project, and they were all fine when I reloaded the icon.
 
I used Sonar’s icons for all serious projects in 8.5 and none pixelated.
 
Like I said in my previous post, I tested the “template theory” by starting a new project using a simple template that had no icons; then I added icons afterward. The icons still pixelated upon reopening the file.
 
I think the tree we have to bark up is why the pixilation is fixed upon reloading an icon. Why would a computer with graphics issues be fine again just because an icon has been loaded a second time?
 
Also, I think the reason this hasn’t been overly reported is as the OP stated: “No big deal...just curious”. Apparently people who have the problem seem to just put up with it. And I would guess a fair percentage of folks don’t use icons?
 
Hope this helps.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 21:06:25 (permalink)
Thanks for the info


Dilaco1
I downloaded all the latest Windows 7 updates for an unrelated issue about 3 weeks ago. So I think that means my drivers are up to date.


Nope it won't be, Windows update is notorious for distributing ancient drivers. You need to go to manufacturers website for this. May I ask what the make and model of your display adapter is under device manager?
 
Dilaco1
Why would a computer with graphics issues be fine again just because an icon has been loaded a second time?
 

 
It is not being cached into the display memory correctly.
 
Thanks...
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 21:25:54 (permalink)
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My Windows setting is set to best performance - with no “eye candy”.
 
Hope this helps.



Data is always helpful   Any chance you could turn all the eye candy on for a few hours and see if any corruption occurs during that time?
 
Alex is right about the drivers, Windows often says my drivers are up to date but if I go to a company's web site, I find something newer. Maybe not better...but at least newer.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 23:24:24 (permalink)
I'd like to add my experience here too... I've been experiencing this since x1 and on different machines. I have tried turning best performance and full graphic features on/off and it still happens. I am running the most current drivers for my gfx card... It happens with almost any icon at different times, so I don't think it's the icons themselves...

I have not reported it as I always wrote it off as a minor item and I've had (and still do) bigger fish to fry with Sonar issues... It has always been simple enough to re-load the icon and it goes away...

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/16 23:49:10 (permalink)
Interesting topic. FINALLY, a graphic issue I've never seen before.
 
I repeat, I do NOT have this problem (yet) in X1 or X2!
 
If anyone is collecting data on this issue, and if it helps, my 2 systems are listed below:
 
Windows XP sp3 desktop
Intel Core2Duo 32bit processor
NVidia GeForce 8400SG graphics
 
Windows 7 sp1 laptop
Intel i7 64bit processor
AMD Radeon graphics
 
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 00:20:52 (permalink)
As mentioned, if you're have probs with this do the experiment in step #30 - if not it would be impossible to understand the issue at hand. This has been around since X1; however most of us just leave it as its not critical to the core programme of audio production.

in one of my projects, this is just part of the console view
 
 
by deleting the entire contents of the Cakewalk Icon folder and re-saving this project file, this is what is found inside the Icon folder
 

 
even when the entire entire contents of the icon folder is deleted, the icons still load up with the project - however, they will appear to be garbled.
 
Somehow, somewhere, the project is saving the "icon" information within itself. i have searched since X1 but with no luck isolating the issue. If the linkage of the icon folder (not just the contents) is deleted, Sonar defaults to save the icons to a new folder in Users/(name)/AppData/Roaming/Cakewalk - if i do remember that path correctly.
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 00:39:38 (permalink)
That makes me think the images are being saved within the project and somehow the project file is corrupting them. Or Sonar is corrupting them as it embeds them into the project.
 
I haven't read every single post, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but...
 
What happens if you open an X series project and load icons from a previous Sonar Icon folder, like Sonar 7 or 8?
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 00:47:50 (permalink)
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My screen resolution on a 22" PC monitor is at maximum: 1680 X 1050.



Try changing it to a more standard resolution like 1600 x 900, 1280 x 720, or 800 x 600.
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 01:50:19 (permalink)
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What happens if you open an X series project and load icons from a previous Sonar Icon folder, like Sonar 7 or 8?




Hmmm.... good question... 

my guess... best as at it is... it doesnt matter if the icons are from different projects and or be they custom created. Because if the icons are not available in the linked Default Icons Folder, Sonar will create them there. However, the size and quality of the icons may, just may, be questionable. It seems that Sonar somehow or somewhere creates another "icon(s)" file within the Project itself but this "icon(s)" is / are not stored properly.
 
if not how will the icons come back when they have been physically deleted from the link folder??? 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 04:53:15 (permalink)
I recall for older OS versions, that there was a registry parameter for giving Windows a 'size' for its iconcache database file, but I don't believe it works the same way in Windows 7 or 8.  Certainly the parameter name is changed, at the very least, as a search of the Windows 7 registry does not find it under the same name it used to be in  XP or other older versions..
 
I did find a page with a small number of DOS primpt commands to enter, that clear the icondcache and delete the existing iconcache.db file, followed by restarting Windows.  This will have Windows rebuild the iconcache on the restart automatically.
 
That link is: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/49819-icon-cache-rebuild.html
 
The page above has 2 listed options, with the 1st being to download and run a batch file - I would skip that and do the manual options listed under the 2nd option, first closing any open programs and such, since Windows will be restarted when the last DOD command is entered.
 
The above does apply to Windows 7 - I don't know if it applies for Windows 8 or not without looking.
 
I also found a slightly different variation of steps and commands to accomplish the deletion/rebuild of the iconcache.db file:
 
1.  Kill Explorer.exe process. In Windows 7,  click Start button > Hold down Ctrl+Shift & Right Click on empty area in the Start Menu > Click “Exit Explorer”. In Windows 8, you may do so via the Task Manager.
 
2.  Open the command prompt window, type each of the following and after every command, hit the Enter button:

  cd /d %userprofile%\AppData\Local
  attrib –h IconCache.db
  del IconCache.db
  start explorer
 
3.  Your Windows Icon Cache will have been rebuilt.
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 06:45:53 (permalink)
Hi Bob, i think the Icon Cache in Windows are different from that of what Sonar is using. The file extensions are different. 
 
in Sonar, they use .BMP as the image file to be used with tracks. Windows Explorer uses .ICO
 
i could be wrong however, i think what you are describing refers to users having issues with Windows Explorer not displaying the icons correctly; something to do with the "desktop.ini" hidden file. Yup, there were issues with XP and Vista Explorer getting corrupted after a while; especially when users change the default icons of their folders in Windows Explorer via the Advanced Shell Command.
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 09:43:39 (permalink)
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in one of my projects, this is just part of the console view
 
 
by deleting the entire contents of the Cakewalk Icon folder and re-saving this project file, this is what is found inside the Icon folder
 

 

 
There's two issues in this thread.  1) redraw issues where the entire track icon isn't getting redrawn properly.  2) pixelation.  
 
It is not weird for SONAR to save back out the track icons to an empty directory.  This is how we facilitated sharing of icons from various projects.  You can reuse track icons elsewhere.
 
Visually this looks to me like something resampled an image down for say 16x16 and then wound up scaling that back up before writing it to disk.  So be sure to start with a 96 x 96 image.  In the case where something is already pixelated, you'd need to replace it and resave the project.  Once the bitmap is pixelated, there's no converting back to un-pixelated.  You would have to overwrite that data.
 
Looking into how this could occur.  It may be an interop issue with projects from other or older versions of SONAR. We had updated the track icon code a few times adding new size definitions so that's one way I can imagine this could occur.  
 
We'll continue after this issue as while an appearance issue like this doesn't affect the sound, it can be visually jarring.
 
Thanks for your support.
 
 

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 10:05:48 (permalink)
Thank you SOO much for jumping in, Keith.
 
I thought Windows had been involved in that aspect of things.
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 10:08:56 (permalink)
Thanks Keith! Your responsiveness is very much appreciated. I know how busy you are.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/17 12:54:21 (permalink)
Hi Keith, thank you for looking into this. As mentioned, it doesnt affect the audio part which is the core function of Sonar...  

looking forward....  Cheers!!!
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 01:38:39 (permalink)
I did as suggested and updated my Display Driver, but with no change to the pixilation scenario.
 
I’m using NVIDIA GeForce GT 520.
 
My previous driver was about 3 years old.
 
The updated driver is 337.88 for 64bit Windows desktop. Driver date May 19th 2014. File version differs depending where I look it up: in the NVIDIA info window it states version 1.0.1.0; in device manager > driver properties it states 9.18.13.3788.
 
A couple more observations:
 
Projects done in Sonar 8.5 and imported into X3 do NOT exhibit pixelated icons.
 
I previously stated that ALL icons except for track 1 were garbled in my tests, but I only used around 4 icons in those tests. I recently tested a project  with a larger track count (12 tracks), then it was more varied with some icons garbled, others not – but track 1 still consistently okay.
 
It would be nice if Jmasno5 could add a few specifics – as it was he who started this thread that has got everyone scratching their heads! 
 
Personally I don’t want to do any more updates or upgrades of any part of my computer for a while cos it’s all I seem to be doing lately, and I always do so with great trepidation – based on past experiences.
 
(Edited 'cos a word kept coming up as **** and it wasn't a swear word?)
 

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 08:24:22 (permalink)
Some normal, everyday words, contain what it detects as being no-no words - offensive/racist, even though it is obvious to US that the word was not intended to be as such.
 
The word s u s p i c i o u s, for example, happens to contain a smaller derogatory word within it, so that is a common one that gets flagged all the time.
 
The forum software is just trying to keep things on an as even a keel as possible.
 
And as far as the icons getting pixelatedisciousified, I have gone back and looked at projects on my computer, and for whatever reason, I don't happen to see that happening - at least not in the sampling of projects I have looked at thus far.
 
I AM keeping an eye on things, so if I DO start having the issue I can try to post information to try to help figure out why it happens to some projects, and not in others.
 
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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 12:54:35 (permalink)
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It would be nice if Jmasno5 could add a few specifics – as it was he who started this thread that has got everyone scratching their heads! 
 


There are no real specifics to add except I use a nvidia fanless graphics card that I keep updated. It's happened off and on for a couple of years back to X2.

Surprisingly, a lot of users have this minor issue and they are doing a good job offering specifics. Now that Cakewalk officially knows about it maybe they'll figure it out. My projects are relatively small in track numbers so sometimes I forgo the icons. I was just curious about my machine's performance. I'm happy to find others experience the same.

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 13:21:08 (permalink)
I don't know that it is a lot of users. One can't make a conclusion based on what one sees on this forum. 
 
Even if all the posters on this thread reported this problem it still would be a tiny few compared to the vast total user base. And because it has not been mentioned before as far as I can recall I would think it really is only a very few indeed. However, I don't know how many it actually effects either. 

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 17:14:40 (permalink)
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There are no real specifics to add except I use a Nvidia fanless graphics card that I keep updated. It's happened off and on for a couple of years back to X2.



What is the specific model please and driver version? That would be really useful information. We want to see what is in common and what needs ruling out. I'm not making any assumptions right now. You can find the details in device manager.

I would still strongly suggest updating to the drivers to the latest it will do no harm, and run windows update.
Has anybody stated that it happens in new projects?

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Re: X3 track icons crumble (pixelate) 2014/07/19 20:43:43 (permalink)
Dear Cake Alex
As stated in last post, I tried updating drivers – directly from manufacturer sight. It didn’t make any difference. And as stated in previous posts, I have downloaded the Windows updates, and it happens in new projects (though only after saving the project and re-opening).

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