Platinum and X3E Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this(still not working reliably)

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2013/10/04 15:24:56 (permalink)

Platinum and X3E Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this(still not working reliably)

 
Steps to replicate....
New Project
insert audio track
insert MIDI track
assign Addicitive drums (or Session Drummer) as my soft synth
(optional)Assign a drum map to the MIDI track
View Step seq.....all is well
enter a couple of events
Close Step Seq
Reopen Step Seq
No Events in step seq???
 
Is this a bug?
 
 
TIA
post edited by meh - 2015/03/27 12:55:34

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 17:38:35 (permalink)
    Possibly just not enough rows of Step Sequencer showing in the dock so rows with hits are off-screen? Do you hear anything on playback?

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 21:17:25 (permalink)
    I've got the same problem.  would love to know what you found.
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 21:19:53 (permalink)
    We'll investigate. 
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 21:30:58 (permalink)
    looks like even though it's a step sequencer clip, the small icon in the top right of the clip is set to prv by default.  double-clicking the clip opens step sequencer, but looks like sonar thinks it's a prv clip.  so, click the icon on the top right and select step sequencer as the default editor... then, if you double click the clip step sequencer will open and those notes will be there.

     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 22:29:08 (permalink)
    I'm using X2a, but I have the same issue.  I can change the icon in the top right so Step Sequencer is the default, but it still doesn't show the notes in the matrix view. One time, I placed new notes in the new/blank SS window it opened, and now I had two clips.  For a brief time I could toggle between the two by double-clicking and could actually see the notes, but after some more clicking, they went away.  Not sure why they showed up for that brief time.
     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 22:38:57 (permalink)
    Ok, more info.  I found if I changed the tracks output to the different drum map that only had note names, that the notes showed now in the matrix.  So something about my custom superior drummer drum map that I created is causing this.  In creating the map, I started with the original superior drummer 2 map that gets installed when you install SD2. Then I changed a few names, moved some locations around and deleted a few rows and renames the map to a different name.  I then created a virgin SS clip with that new drum map. After doing that, I see the issue where the notes aren't shown in the matrix, but still seen in the clip/track view.  So something about my custom drum map has screwed up seeing the notes in the matrix view once I reopen the clip. HTH
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 22:42:04 (permalink)
    In X2a you cannot use Drum Maps with the Step Sequencer. Probably not a good idea to mix X2a issues in an X3 thread.
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 23:04:26 (permalink)
    Good point.. Ok, I will stay off this thread.  Can you explain in the other thread I opened why I cannot use drum maps with X2a?  thanks again.
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 23:28:42 (permalink)
    Ok, so looks like X2/a is a no go for Step Sequencer and drum maps.  Unbelievable, but ok.  Can Cakewalk confirm X3/a doesn't fix this issue please?  I don't want to spend the $$ to upgrade if this is not fixed.  Can you or can you not use an edited drum map in the Step Sequencer window on X3 and have everything work as it should?
    Thanks
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/04 23:37:59 (permalink)
    scook
    In X2a you cannot use Drum Maps with the Step Sequencer. Probably not a good idea to mix X2a issues in an X3 thread.


    edit - wtf???
    okay - yeah, so i have been just forgot the trick since i've not been using ss in sonar for the last several months...
    on the midi track, assign a drum map.  for this project i was using battery 3 and the wicked kit.  
    ( i usually keep step sequencer open when i'm working on it, so this is one of those swiss cheese brain moments).
    edit a new ss clip. close ss. expand take lanes for the midi track.  
    (this works better if you have ss undocked)
    double click the ss clip. it opens ss with no data.  double click the same clip again and you have data mapped on the right drum map.  
    so they do work, it's just one of those annoying things like snap settings in prv not following global till you turn snap off then on again.  
     
    and here i thought i was going nuts...
    post edited by swamptooth - 2013/10/05 00:13:05

     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/05 00:13:43 (permalink)
    just tried with addictive drums - works the same.

     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/05 01:23:22 (permalink)
    @swamptooth - I replied to the other post for this same issue - please check it out:
     
    Read from this post on down to the end, where I included additional text:
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2904141
     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/05 02:13:08 (permalink)
    fwiw, the sonar x2 reference guide http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013290 on page 1829 and the x3 reference guide http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013322 on page 1963 give detailed instructions on using the step sequencer with drum maps.  just curious if tech support is telling users one thing but the reference guides have not been updated.

     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/05 09:07:34 (permalink)
    Now THAT would be interesting.
     
    I had posted several times in the past on this subject, and the Cakewalk folks never came in and corrected anything.
     
    I just heeded what they told me and stopped using drum maps with SS.  For me it wasn't any big deal anyways, as I just printed a cheat sheet I made in Word that listed the kit pieces and the note names and numbers, for each custom kit I set up, and that works just fine for me.
     
    I WILL attempt to see if perhaps the earlier information I had been given was incorrect, and if so, I will immediately go back to using drum maps and will start recommending folks use them in future posts.
     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/07 11:56:15 (permalink)
    Hey guys, sorry for not responding to this thread quicker! I am going to try and reproduce this issue today.
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/07 12:05:19 (permalink)
    meh
     
    Steps to replicate....
    New Project
    insert audio track
    insert MIDI track
    assign Addicitive drums (or Session Drummer) as my soft synth
    (optional)Assign a drum map to the MIDI track
    View Step seq.....all is well
    enter a couple of events
    Close Step Seq
    Reopen Step Seq
    No Events in step seq???
     
    Is this a bug?
     
     
    TIA


    Confirmed on my end.  The Step Sequencer is opening a new Step Sequencer instead of the existing one. The sequence is still there, but you must open it within the Step Sequencer from the top right of the clip. I look into this further.  This only seems to happen with Drum Maps.
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/07 18:42:34 (permalink)
    thx Dan

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/14 15:24:02 (permalink)
    Andrew, Dan is there any updates for this?
     

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/10/15 18:09:15 (permalink)
    Bump
     
    Andrew, Dan is there any updates for this?

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/11/04 09:13:47 (permalink)
    Dan, Andrew
    I was hoping this would have been addressed in the X3c patch but I still have this issue.  Is this something that will be fixed?
     
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/11/05 09:50:47 (permalink)
    Bump
     
    Dan, Andrew
    I was hoping this would have been addressed in the X3c patch but I still have this issue.  Is this something that will be fixed?

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/11/11 17:38:49 (permalink)
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    I was hoping this would have been addressed in the X3c patch but I still have this issue.  Is this something that will be fixed?

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/11/12 02:50:15 (permalink)
    In X3c, I am seeing it as a weird bug still...
     
    When first launching X3c and double clicking a sequence done in 8 beats/8 steps. The sequencer will pop open as 4/4. No drum map (was done in AD).
     
    Ctrl-dragging the clip sets it to "8/8," but the header is still showing the 4/4. No drum map. I hit play and the header begins "filling itself in" properly. Add a note anywhere on the SS and hit CTRL-Z and the drum map pops up.
     
    Closed without a save (just the project, not X3c). Repeated. On the second run, the SS opened to the correct SS 8/8, but no drum map (no ctrl-drag of the clip required). Repeated the add note/ctrl-z and the drum map comes back.
     
     

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/11/21 18:27:04 (permalink)
    Bump

    Dan, Andrew
    I was hoping this would have been addressed in the X3c patch but I still have this issue.  Is this something that will be fixed?

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/12/15 19:01:00 (permalink)
    Any news on SS fixes coming for X3d or beyond? It really needs to be examined by the developers. I'm experiencing errors with it randomly placing controller data in the wrong step: This occurs after loading a previously saved (and the pattern worked before saving) custom SS pattern.
     
    PLEASE FIX THIS!
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/12/15 19:08:02 (permalink)
    X3D is out next week, and no you don't get privileged information until then. So please delay your complaints...
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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/12/15 19:19:43 (permalink)
    LOL... I already nabbed the Christmas Geist deal... no more "step sequencer" complaints...

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/12/15 19:23:34 (permalink)
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    LOL... I already nabbed the Christmas Geist deal... no more "step sequencer" complaints...


    Same here,.

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    Re: X3a Step Seq Am I the only one seeing this 2013/12/17 11:13:14 (permalink)
    X3D is now out. No mention of step sequencer being fixed, that doesn't mean it hasn't been fixed however. Please report your findings here.

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