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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 11:16:12
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I already know about my wasted potential, and I blame it on the doctors not allowing me to have stronger meds.
Also it doesnt matter how good a song is, in most cases people still wont buy it.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 12:30:15
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......in a split moment of potential inspiration....
I write the songs that make my whole world sing
I write the songs of mind and special things
I write the songs that make the musicians cry
I write the songs, I write the songs
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 12:40:57
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Our brains are already equipped by evolution to create the greatest songs in our minds since music is an evolutionary mechanism.
No it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 13:57:50
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/04/14 14:26:09
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......in a split moment of potential inspiration....
I think the songs that make my whole world sing
I think the songs of mind and special things
I think the songs that make the musicians cry
I think the songs, I think the songs
HTH
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 13:58:45
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☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2017/04/14 15:11:34
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Our brains are already equipped by evolution to create the greatest songs in our minds since music is an evolutionary mechanism.
No it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
From all the little baby songs in the world?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 14:04:56
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Our brains are already equipped by evolution to create the greatest songs in our minds since music is an evolutionary mechanism.
Your proposition begins with an incorrect "given." Listen to the radio these days. It's de-evolutionary. I 100% applaud your intellectual interest in where songs come from and your earnest? desire to get people to tap into some wasted potential. However, being told that I have "wasted potential" by someone naming themselves after how much they play a video game is . . . priceless. Please post some of your songs in the songs forum when you can. There's lots of potential over there, as that is your interest . . . cheers mate! -Tom
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 14:09:45
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If you have lived with highly intelligent people your whole entire life and you have absorbed everything that they have said throughout your life, then your brain would now be equipped to speak like an intelligent person. The same things applies to music. Since I have listened to professional music my entire life whether it be music from video games or from famous artists, then my brain has been professionally equipped to create the next greatest songs in my own mind. Everybody is equipped with this ability.
Chomsky's "Language Acquisition Device" (LAD) has become SuperMarioGamer's "Music Acquisition Device" (MAD) ??? If what you are saying is, "the more music you listen to, the more you can understand and make music in your head" then I'd agree. cheers, -Tom
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 14:21:59
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SuperMarioGamer
Our brains are already equipped by evolution to create the greatest songs in our minds since music is an evolutionary mechanism.
No it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
You've taken what I said out of context. Within the context it was meant to be in, I am merely explaining how our brains are programmed (wired) by evolution to naturally absorb the English language so that we can articulate it later on in our lives. It would be LAD that emeraldsoul pointed out. This would also apply to music. emeraldsoul
SuperMarioGamer
If you have lived with highly intelligent people your whole entire life and you have absorbed everything that they have said throughout your life, then your brain would now be equipped to speak like an intelligent person. The same things applies to music. Since I have listened to professional music my entire life whether it be music from video games or from famous artists, then my brain has been professionally equipped to create the next greatest songs in my own mind. Everybody is equipped with this ability.
Chomsky's "Language Acquisition Device" (LAD) has become SuperMarioGamer's "Music Acquisition Device" (MAD) ???
If what you are saying is, "the more music you listen to, the more you can understand and make music in your head" then I'd agree.
cheers,
-Tom
Yes, this is what I am saying. Just as how you can become an intelligent speaker from absorbing the English language from listening and being around intelligent people throughout your life, your brain has the same capacity in terms of creating professional music in your own mind that can be just as great as any famous musical artist's songs. LAD offers you the ability to articulate the English language in a professional way (providing you have been absorbing professionally spoken English language from others throughout your life) just as how MAD also offers you the ability to create professional music in your own mind providing that you have been listening to professional quality music your entire life. I think this is a given for almost everybody. Unless, of course, you spent your life listening to horrible music.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 14:43:00
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Now what happens if I've been listening to professional quality music my entire life, but due to the fact that I lack any "real" talent, my music is just plain horrible? What if I just don't realize it, but my mind tells me it's fantastic......as one of the bipolarity's in me is realistic while the other side is in fantasy land?
Which one should I trust?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 14:46:01
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/04/14 15:29:36
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A logical discussion needs logical participants. Empirical evidence doesn't come from feelings or emotions. Your opinions of your imagined music are based on fantasy. Until your "music" is perfomed, or recorded its real value is zero. Talk is cheap. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. There are a million songs in a million people's minds who think they are great. Yet the songs are only dust in the wind. No one wants to hear about how great a person's undeveoped talent is because
It is nothing but speculation and means nothing. The artists on this forum sweat blood and tears in the development of their projects. In my opinion if you want respect here don't talk about some non-existant, mind cloned MJ song. It doesn't fit the venue. Ask advice about learning music, composition, and performing and you will find a friendly reponse. This isn't facebook or some flat earth blog. Its about musicians and music, recording and sharing. Good luck with your imaginary music, professor, and good night...
But there is already empirical evidence that our brains are already equipped to create the greatest songs in our heads. If you study up on how the brain works, then you will find out that creating music in our own heads is no different than articulating the English language based upon how our brains naturally absorbed (learned) the language over time.
I guess a person only reads or hears what they want to because their greatest love is only a mirror away.........
What I am saying is actually true. It is neuroscience. I don't have the time to get into it all, but if you choose not to believe me, then that is fine.
That whole theory was debunked last week, but I don't have time to point out the research and then explain it to you.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:10:48
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Now what happens if I've been listening to professional quality music my entire life, but due to the fact that I lack any "real" talent, my music is just plain horrible? What if I just don't realize it, but my mind tells me it's fantastic......as one of the bipolarity's in me is realistic while the other side is in fantasy land?
Which one should I trust?
Everybody has this ability to create professional music in their heads. However, there are some people who merely lack the creative potential to unlock this skill. As a result, they only end up creating mediocre songs in their heads. If you truly think you have unlocked this potential and the songs you create in your head truly sound as though they are just as great as the songs created by famous musical artists, then you are justified to stand by that claim. If you know you are not deluding yourself and the songs truly sound that great, then that makes them great. You would know that you are not merely deluding yourself because by suspending all the qualities of delusion, you can arrive at the very core of a truth that is self-realized. The same concept applies in terms of making the realization that a song you have created in your own mind is not that great. The whole idea that something is great just because you think it so obviously would not apply to those types of situations such as if you thought you were a great boxer just because you threw some flashy punches. However, it does apply in this situation of creating music in your head because we are talking something equivalent to LAD that emeraldsoul pointed out earlier.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:19:48
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/04/14 15:30:11
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Everybody has this ability to create professional music in their heads. However, there are some people who merely lack the creative potential to unlock this skill. As a result, they only end up creating mediocre songs in their heads. If you truly think you have unlocked this potential and the songs you create in your head truly sound as though they are just as great as the songs created by famous musical artists, then you are justified to stand by that claim. If you know you are not deluding yourself and the songs truly sound that great, then that makes them great.
Pretending that I take any of this seriously...if all that is true, the question remains..so what? Why would anyone care that you can 'make great music in your head'? I think all this is a giant smokescreen you've blown up for yourself, so you don't have face the reality - you are just too lazy to learn how to compose music, and you're here, yet again, looking for some kind of validation so that you don't feel bad about it.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:31:12
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/04/14 15:46:30
I'm off to get some of that other waisted potential...........
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:39:52
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/04/14 15:50:07
As a professionally trained music listener I decided to test your theory and wrote this in my head just for you...
*meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeow*
Not bad for a beginner donchyathink?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:46:16
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.....If you know you are not deluding yourself and the songs truly sound that great, then that makes them great. You would know that you are not merely deluding yourself because by suspending all the qualities of delusion, you can arrive at the very core of a truth that is self-realized.
How do you know you're not deluding yourself when you're thinking you're "suspending all the qualities of delusion"? Wouldn't you be just justifying your own hypothesis in which your alter ego is happily embracing as being "great"? When would you use "reality/reason" to differentiate between delusion and truth.....where's the actual cut-off line?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:48:47
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☄ Helpfulby Beepster 2017/04/14 16:41:29
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As a professionally trained music listener I decided to test your theory and wrote this in my head just for you...
*meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeow*
Not bad for a beginner donchyathink?
Hate to break it to you big guy, but I think you stole someone else's composition....
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:51:23
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☄ Helpfulby Beepster 2017/04/15 18:01:29
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As a professionally trained music listener I decided to test your theory and wrote this in my head just for you...
*meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeow meowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeowmeow*
Not bad for a beginner donchyathink?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 15:52:52
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.....If you know you are not deluding yourself and the songs truly sound that great, then that makes them great. You would know that you are not merely deluding yourself because by suspending all the qualities of delusion, you can arrive at the very core of a truth that is self-realized.
How do you know you're not deluding yourself when you're thinking you're "suspending all the qualities of delusion"?
Wouldn't you be just justifying your own hypothesis in which your alter ego is happily embracing as being "great"?
When would you use "reality/reason" to differentiate between delusion and truth.....where's the actual cut-off line?
It's no different than a situation where if you think you are articulating your English language well and this really seems to be the truth to you, then that makes it so. The idea of self-delusion simply does not apply here. It does not apply to LAD just as how it also does not apply to MAD. Again, if you do not know what those acronyms mean, then refer back to emeraldsoul's post to get the idea.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/04/14 16:15:32
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:20:12
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2017/04/14 17:06:58
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:30:50
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Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:32:19
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/04/14 17:20:41
This thread is making me miss Pedro.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:32:55
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This thread is making me miss Pedro.
Got bad aim? 
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:40:12
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There is much evidence by neuroscience supporting my arguments here. However, I do not have the time to go into all the details since it is an immense body of research. All I can say here is that creating great songs in our heads is no different than how we can articulate the English language. Your brain absorbs information and, based upon that information, it is able to create with superb skill.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 16:52:22
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But what about the Chinese, Japanese, Latino, Russian and Canadian languages? Are they inferior?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 17:00:57
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bapu
But what about the Chinese, Japanese, Latino, Russian and Canadian languages? Are they inferior?
I have heard of a program out there known as Rosetta Stone where you can literally learn to professionally speak any language just by sitting there and listening to these spoken languages. The same thing applies to learning how to create great music in your own head that can be just as great as any famous musical artist's songs just by sitting there and listening to their music.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 17:01:16
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SuperMarioGamer
There is much evidence by neuroscience supporting my arguments here. However, I do not have the time to go into all the details since it is an immense body of research. All I can say here is that creating great songs in our heads is no different than how we can articulate the English language. Your brain absorbs information and, based upon that information, it is able to create with superb skill.
Again, who cares?
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 17:08:35
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There is much evidence by neuroscience supporting my arguments here. However, I do not have the time to go into all the details since it is an immense body of research. All I can say here is that creating great songs in our heads is no different than how we can articulate the English language. Your brain absorbs information and, based upon that information, it is able to create with superb skill.
Again, who cares?
I think it should matter to everyone else because as long as you are not tapping into this ability, then you might not be creating songs that are as great as what your true potential could achieve.
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 17:10:49
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But what about the Chinese, Japanese, Latino, Russian and Canadian languages? Are they inferior?
I'm a bit partial to Latin.....illic 'Non vicarius ingenii
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Re: You all have wasted potential
2017/04/14 17:16:11
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I wish you could all hear what's being composed in my head right now.....man oh man.......it's great!!
(just did this while eating lunch).
What's the best way to play it (media form) so that these mere mortals would know how great my composition is?
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