Bub 
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 19:55:00
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Jonbouy
Forgetfulness isn't to be confused for forgiveness.
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You can't unsee that which has already been seen I guess, so I can forgive but sometimes it's impossible to forget.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 19:56:09
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I wonder if Jonbouy still has me blocked.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 19:57:22
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bapu
I wonder in Jonbouy still has me blocked.
Yes I have.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 20:02:45
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 23:05:33
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Grudges harm me far more than they harm the person I might hold a grudge for. But, more importantly, I find it far easier to forgive and forget than to keep on harboring the past in a negative way. Trust is a different matter. If I feel betrayed, then its not so much a matter of forgiveness as it is simply a matter of wariness. Trust, once lost, cannot be regained with me. But it does not mean I hold any ill will, and I may still respect the person on many levels.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/27 23:06:37
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Not according to my ol pal, Hazel Motes (be redeemed, that is)
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 00:29:03
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Grudges harm me far more than they harm the person I might hold a grudge for. But, more importantly, I find it far easier to forgive and forget than to keep on harboring the past in a negative way. Trust is a different matter. If I feel betrayed, then its not so much a matter of forgiveness as it is simply a matter of wariness. Trust, once lost, cannot be regained with me. But it does not mean I hold any ill will, and I may still respect the person on many levels.
Then turn all grudges into trust issues. Simples. 
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 03:44:23
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Indifference fixes everything : especially before it's deemed nonredeemable.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 04:06:48
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Rbh
Indifference fixes everything : especially before it's deemed nonredeemable.
Yeah, like, whatever.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 05:58:51
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...then there are the ones who need grudges, because they can't accept the fact that sometimes in life s**t happens without anyone purposely causing it. They need someone to blame for everything they're dissatisfied about in their life.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 06:02:55
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"We can't do anything to change the world until capitalism crumbles. In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 06:04:42
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Kalle Rantaaho
...then there are the ones who need grudges, because they can't accept the fact that sometimes in life s**t happens without anyone purposely causing it. They need someone to blame for everything they're dissatisfied about in their life.
I knew it wouldn't take long before somebody chimed in and ruined my entire life... 
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 06:16:53
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Instead of just saying I'm to blame, I prefer to be considered a responsible person...
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 19:09:04
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Can someone be redeemed....? I guess I should say ask Jesus, or perhaps Lucifer. But it all boils down to this. Never think you really know someone from things they post on the internet. The internet is a release zone for too many. They can go over the edge and run with the thrill where they can't in real life. Whether they regret their actions later is variable. All we can do is hold to the correct behavior and insert ideas to those who can't or won't. Some people enjoy cheap thrills.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 20:16:24
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If I wasn't deemed in the first place, can I still be re-deemed?
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 20:17:03
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 20:47:22
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Crg
... All we can do is hold to the correct behavior and insert ideas to those who can't or won't.
Who's to say what correct behavior is though?
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 20:54:10
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Bub
Crg
... All we can do is hold to the correct behavior and insert ideas to those who can't or won't.
Who's to say what correct behavior is though?
It's not me or a lot more would be tolerated (or ignored).
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/28 21:19:53
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Bub
Who's to say what correct behavior is though? They do.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 09:29:37
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Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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Bub
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 13:43:28
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Bub
Who's to say what correct behavior is though? They do.
Ah ... but who are " they", and what are their credentials? 
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 14:12:54
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Bob Marley wrote a Redemption_Song about this, so yes.......someone can be redeemed. If time heals all wounds, then grudges only need bigger band-aids.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 14:40:49
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Grudges eat away at the one who holds them. Long after the other person is gone, away from any consequences of their actions, our grudges live on, feeding on our very souls.
Forgiveness frees us from grudges; frees us from continuing to suffer from past injuries. Self-respect frees us from opening ourselves up to a repeat offender who is likely to wound us again. Forgiving someone does not mean they are free to abuse us. It does mean we are free to heal. If their behaviour demonstrates a change of heart/mind, forgiveness may lead to restoration.
I think we could all use a little of that.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 18:36:04
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Bub
Crg
... All we can do is hold to the correct behavior and insert ideas to those who can't or won't.
Who's to say what correct behavior is though?
Relevant question Bub. I don't know... the golden rule? The Church? Jesus? God? Your first grade teacher? That invisible Angel that's always with you? Your conscious? Who can say? That is really the problem. What you beleive.
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Re:can someone be redeemed?
2012/05/29 18:44:51
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I'm happy to report that the answer to the OP question is a resounding YES! For example, I was able to return my ex to the butcher shop and got my 5 cent deposit back!
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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